For those who wait until evening to eat on DD...

Nicole T · 05-19-2013, 07:46 AM

I am doing 4:3 and want to try waiting to eat as long as possible on my down day today but I have to have my coffee (or I'll get a horrid headache!). My problem is that I cannot drink black coffee. On my down days, I usually use low fat half and half (25 calories for 2T). Do you think having 2-4T in the morning with my coffee will negatively affect my waiting until the early evening to eat my first food? I want to try to take advantage of the 24 hour fast but don't want to mess it up with the half and half.

Carly · 05-19-2013, 08:15 AM

I switch to tea only on DDs during my weightloss for that reason. In maintenance I reintroduced a cup or 2 of coffee on DD into my 300 calories, but didn't do it during WLM.

deedee · 05-19-2013, 08:17 AM

I think this is what's been keeping me from having very low DD's. I tried skipping my coffee for the first time this past week, and having tea instead, and I had my first DD with under 150 calories. It wasn't particularly fun, but I want losses like Carly's so I think it's worth it!

Nicole T · 05-19-2013, 08:25 AM

I tried just having tea once instead of coffee and I still got a KILLER headache around 11am. It's amazing that my body is SO sensitive to the caffeine even though I only have 1 cup of coffee a day.

I know my tea had caffeine in it too but it must not be as much.

krow134 · 05-19-2013, 08:52 AM

You can always slowly scale back the cream on dd' s. I like flavored creamers and slowly cut mine back to where I was drinking black coffee on down days in the mornings.

I am not a big tea drinker either.

ravenrose · 05-19-2013, 09:12 AM

try a no-doz tablet instead. I am extremely sensitive to coffee without milk or cream--it gives me terrible stomach pain. while THEORETICALLY that should be from the caffeine, I find no-doz does not do the same thing, so it must be the caffeine in connection with all the other acids and things in the coffee.

Yennie · 05-19-2013, 09:38 AM

There are some who believe that the pure fat of the creamer, since it doesn't cause an insulin release, are not recognized by the body as breaking the fast. Many here use HWC in their coffee in the morning & don't necessarily consider the fast broken from that. YMMV.

Shari4 · 05-19-2013, 09:43 AM

I drink one 12oz. coffee every morning! I like the extra punch, so I add a sugar free swiss mocha to my coffee(I know, double shot!!

) I do this on DD's & UD's. It never affected my weight loss. I still wait as long as I can on DD's to eat. So, yennie is right.......YMMV. Good luck!

LoCarbGal · 05-19-2013, 11:14 PM

I drink a large, probably 12 oz mug of coffee with 1 or 2 T of HWC every morning, DD or UD. Right now I'm on a maintenance break and eating something light for lunch, but for month of successful losing I would mostly skip DD lunch and eat only dinner. The cream seems to keep me satisfied most of the day, whereas if I ate even just a tiny bit of actual food, I would be hungry all day.

Kimmietoo · 05-20-2013, 08:09 AM

I have always been a cream or HNH coffee drinker. I still have those on UD's. I have never used sugar or a substitute, just cream.

Since starting JUDDD, I have transitioned to using SF syrup on DDs in my morning coffee. I sure don't want to expend DD calories on beverages. The SF syrup adds no calories but it is much preferrable to black. It's different, but it saves those few calories for other items later in the day when they can be used for FOOD.

Kimmie

SlowSure · 05-20-2013, 09:01 AM

I don't see how 20-25kcals would disrupt your DD fast. If you're very apprehensive about it, is unsweetened almond milk out of the question (that would be <5kcals)?

bkm · 05-20-2013, 10:16 AM

I drink 2 (large) cups of coffee every morning ... Each with a half ounce of regular half and half, and a packet of Splenda ... Then a third cup late afternoon ... UDs and DDs ... Doesn't seem to affect my weight.

Tried going the "black" route - ugh!

Scarlett46 · 05-20-2013, 10:22 AM

I drink my coffee with french vanilla creamer. Won't give up my coffee, and won't drink it black. Period. I usually add my 3 cups (morning, afternoon snack, and after dinner "dessert") to my calorie counter first, and then decide on my food with the remaining available calories. And for me, the coffee in the morning definitely helps with morning hunger.

deedee · 05-20-2013, 10:33 AM

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Tried going the "black" route - ugh!

Black coffee makes me gag.

It's too bad I like a LOT of creamer in my coffee. When I was honest with myself about how much, I realized it was pretty much my whole days worth of calories in a cup or two.

Tried the almond milk today, and it was almost as bad as having nothing in there.

LoCarbGal · 05-20-2013, 10:37 AM

I've tried many different replacements for HWC and none satisfy me - my tastebuds or my appetite - like good ol' HWC w/a couple of drops of liquid sucralose. I won't give it up, UD or DD.

adillenal · 05-20-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LoCarbGal

I've tried many different replacements for HWC and none satisfy me - my tastebuds or my appetite - like good ol' HWC w/a couple of drops of liquid sucralose. I won't give it up, UD or DD.

same here. HWC forever.

bkm · 05-20-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by adillenal

same here. HWC forever.

okay , you've got me (again) - what does WWC stand for????

LoCarbGal · 05-20-2013, 11:22 AM

HWC = heavy whipping cream.

bkm · 05-20-2013, 11:50 AM

thanks - I like half and half in my coffee, though I sometimes add a squirt of whipped cream (sweetened with splenda, of course!) ...

05-19-2013, 07:46 AM	#1
Nicole T Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 1,002 Gallery: Nicole T Stats: 192/179/170 WOE: 5:2/Paleo Start Date: 4/22/13	For those who wait until evening to eat on DD... I am doing 4:3 and want to try waiting to eat as long as possible on my down day today but I have to have my coffee (or I'll get a horrid headache!). My problem is that I cannot drink black coffee. On my down days, I usually use low fat half and half (25 calories for 2T). Do you think having 2-4T in the morning with my coffee will negatively affect my waiting until the early evening to eat my first food? I want to try to take advantage of the 24 hour fast but don't want to mess it up with the half and half. __________________ Nicole in beautiful Annapolis, MD Only weighing-in once a week on Mondays

05-20-2013, 08:09 AM	#10
Kimmietoo Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 303 Gallery: Kimmietoo Stats: 350/282/1?? 58 yo, hypothyroid age 8; menopausal WOE: start JUDDD 01/24/13 at 310 Start Date: July 2009	I have always been a cream or HNH coffee drinker. I still have those on UD's. I have never used sugar or a substitute, just cream. Since starting JUDDD, I have transitioned to using SF syrup on DDs in my morning coffee. I sure don't want to expend DD calories on beverages. The SF syrup adds no calories but it is much preferrable to black. It's different, but it saves those few calories for other items later in the day when they can be used for FOOD. Kimmie Last edited by Kimmietoo; 05-20-2013 at 08:11 AM..

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05-19-2013, 08:15 AM	#2
Carly Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New York Posts: 4,198 Gallery: Carly Stats: 199/123.2/126.8 5'2" 36yrs Size 20/4P WOE: 5:2 to maintain Start Date: 2/21/12- Low carb (199lbs) 3/28/12 JUDDD (189lbs)	I switch to tea only on DDs during my weightloss for that reason. In maintenance I reintroduced a cup or 2 of coffee on DD into my 300 calories, but didn't do it during WLM.

05-19-2013, 08:17 AM	#3
deedee Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 883 Gallery: deedee Stats: 254/179.5/150 WOE: moderate carb + JUDDD Start Date: vlc 1/25/12 at 254 lbs; JUDD 11/26/12 at 202 lb	I think this is what's been keeping me from having very low DD's. I tried skipping my coffee for the first time this past week, and having tea instead, and I had my first DD with under 150 calories. It wasn't particularly fun, but I want losses like Carly's so I think it's worth it!

05-19-2013, 08:25 AM	#4
Nicole T Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 1,002 Gallery: Nicole T Stats: 192/179/170 WOE: 5:2/Paleo Start Date: 4/22/13	I tried just having tea once instead of coffee and I still got a KILLER headache around 11am. It's amazing that my body is SO sensitive to the caffeine even though I only have 1 cup of coffee a day. I know my tea had caffeine in it too but it must not be as much.

05-19-2013, 08:52 AM	#5
krow134 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 1,427 Gallery: krow134 Stats: 207 starting weight in 2012 WOE: Low Carb/JUDDD	You can always slowly scale back the cream on dd' s. I like flavored creamers and slowly cut mine back to where I was drinking black coffee on down days in the mornings. I am not a big tea drinker either.

05-19-2013, 09:12 AM	#6
ravenrose . Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: California Posts: 9,078 Gallery: ravenrose Stats: lost 130 lb so far, and miles to go before I sleep WOE: low carb controlled calorie Start Date: June, 2009	try a no-doz tablet instead. I am extremely sensitive to coffee without milk or cream--it gives me terrible stomach pain. while THEORETICALLY that should be from the caffeine, I find no-doz does not do the same thing, so it must be the caffeine in connection with all the other acids and things in the coffee.

05-19-2013, 09:38 AM	#7
Yennie Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: PNW Posts: 1,006 Gallery: Yennie Stats: 5'2" 34yo 199/sig/130 ~*~ 5# until no longer obese WOE: A.I. 1/1-1/20; JUDDD 1/21/13, Potatoes as needed Start Date: 2013 is the year of the weight loss!	There are some who believe that the pure fat of the creamer, since it doesn't cause an insulin release, are not recognized by the body as breaking the fast. Many here use HWC in their coffee in the morning & don't necessarily consider the fast broken from that. YMMV.

05-19-2013, 09:43 AM	#8
Shari4 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Somewhere in Texas Posts: 882 Gallery: Shari4 Stats: 200/140.4/140 63yrs WOE: JUDDD Start Date: Started JUDDD: 9/24/12 @181	I drink one 12oz. coffee every morning! I like the extra punch, so I add a sugar free swiss mocha to my coffee(I know, double shot!! ) I do this on DD's & UD's. It never affected my weight loss. I still wait as long as I can on DD's to eat. So, yennie is right.......YMMV. Good luck!

05-19-2013, 11:14 PM	#9
LoCarbGal Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2,871 Gallery: LoCarbGal Stats: 318.5/207/140 5'4" 46 yrs WOE: Atkins 1/27/12 - 54.5 lbs: JUDDD 9/4/12 - 57 lbs	I drink a large, probably 12 oz mug of coffee with 1 or 2 T of HWC every morning, DD or UD. Right now I'm on a maintenance break and eating something light for lunch, but for month of successful losing I would mostly skip DD lunch and eat only dinner. The cream seems to keep me satisfied most of the day, whereas if I ate even just a tiny bit of actual food, I would be hungry all day.

05-20-2013, 09:01 AM	#11
SlowSure Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Nr London, UK Posts: 752 Gallery: SlowSure Stats: 157/135/130 WOE: JUDDD (3 DD, 3 UD, 1 MD) Potato hack 3-30 March Start Date: 11 Dec. 2011 Restart 1 Jan 2013	I don't see how 20-25kcals would disrupt your DD fast. If you're very apprehensive about it, is unsweetened almond milk out of the question (that would be <5kcals)?

05-20-2013, 10:16 AM	#12
bkm Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 372 Gallery: bkm Stats: 200/130/130 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 01/01/1994	I drink 2 (large) cups of coffee every morning ... Each with a half ounce of regular half and half, and a packet of Splenda ... Then a third cup late afternoon ... UDs and DDs ... Doesn't seem to affect my weight. Tried going the "black" route - ugh!

05-20-2013, 10:22 AM	#13
Scarlett46 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Mid-Michigan Posts: 89 Gallery: Scarlett46 Stats: 179/176/135 5'3" 42yo WOE: SB/JUDDD Start Date: SB: 6/2007 JUDDD: 4/2013	I drink my coffee with french vanilla creamer. Won't give up my coffee, and won't drink it black. Period. I usually add my 3 cups (morning, afternoon snack, and after dinner "dessert") to my calorie counter first, and then decide on my food with the remaining available calories. And for me, the coffee in the morning definitely helps with morning hunger.

05-20-2013, 10:37 AM	#15
LoCarbGal Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2,871 Gallery: LoCarbGal Stats: 318.5/207/140 5'4" 46 yrs WOE: Atkins 1/27/12 - 54.5 lbs: JUDDD 9/4/12 - 57 lbs	I've tried many different replacements for HWC and none satisfy me - my tastebuds or my appetite - like good ol' HWC w/a couple of drops of liquid sucralose. I won't give it up, UD or DD.

05-20-2013, 11:22 AM	#18
LoCarbGal Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2,871 Gallery: LoCarbGal Stats: 318.5/207/140 5'4" 46 yrs WOE: Atkins 1/27/12 - 54.5 lbs: JUDDD 9/4/12 - 57 lbs	HWC = heavy whipping cream.

05-20-2013, 11:50 AM	#19
bkm Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 372 Gallery: bkm Stats: 200/130/130 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 01/01/1994	thanks - I like half and half in my coffee, though I sometimes add a squirt of whipped cream (sweetened with splenda, of course!) ...