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Old 05-27-2013, 06:58 AM   #211
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What veggies do you use to roast with, Yennie? That does sound delicious!

I am eating higher DDs now, for the last 2 and am having good results. I can afford a little more food now, and am even planning to have a rib-eye steak for dinner.
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What veggies do you use to roast with, Yennie? That does sound delicious!
I use broccoli, cauliflower, green beans (don't cook those as long), parsnips, carrots, sweet potatoes, yellow or white onion, bell peppers of any color.
Not necessarily all at the same time, just whatever I have or grab at the store. The sweet potatoes add a lot of calories so I don't often add those, or will only add a little bit.
Toss with olive oil (which I measure to accurately calculate calories) some minced garlic and add sea salt.
Roast at 400 on a cookie sheet. I usually shake the pan every 10 minutes or so. Takes 30-40 to cook depending on whats in there. I add the green beans about 20 minutes into the cook of the other ones, as they cook faster & tend to burn easier.
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:22 AM   #213
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You are going to love the results that JUDDD gives. It is worth taking the time to read some of our 'Non Scale Victories' threads. There are 2 of them and they are truly inspiring. The health benefits are often astonishing and the number of new pants that are needed monthly is enough to alter the national debt.

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Stash, you sound a lot like me! I have a pretty big appetite and like having one. I used to astound people with what I could eat and not gain. Well, that ended. JUDDD allows me to eat a pretty good bit eod, so I'm content. I'd be lying if I didn't admit that I've had my frustrations, but I think that's probably typical of any WOE. What I have learned in these past 6 months of JUDDDing is that, even though I have taken a few breaks, I have not gained...the SIRTs really do work! Plus, I feel like Superwoman on DDs. My losses have been phenomenally slow, and that's been my major frustration, but it is a very noticeable loss and I am finally more comfortable with my body.

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I have had more than 3 weeks vacationing this month and am only up 5 pounds. This is a miracle if you could see what lovely food I have eaten. I did not follow rotations at all but one day I did a fasting day. 1 boiled egg, 2 small coffees, and water/ diet coke.

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The only diet I have ever been successful on is South Beach. I was able to lose weight, but would eventually go back to my old habits little by little, and would eventually gain most of it back (so maybe it wasn’t really successful after all lol.) I always felt deprived (what can I say…I LOVE my carbs) and will just all of sudden start eating everything in sight. I am hoping the JUDDDD WOE is going to be a good option for me (I am sure I can stick to a strict 500 calories if I know I can have some pasta the next day.)

Question: Do you always alternate UD and DD every other day? I was thinking of doing Mon/Wed/Fri DD and all the others (Tues/Thurs/Sat/Sun) as UD. Will that work or does the plan work better when you alternate every other day? I am sure this will be my first of many questions.
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Many have success with M/W/F DDs but you will almost certainly lose faster if you stick to strict Alternate Days.

I recommend trying the Alternate Days and see how it goes, you may be surprised how comfortable DDs can be.

But this is a plan for life and and if it really helps you to have set days then by all means try that. Some people use a Medium Day (60% on Dr J's site) on a Sat or Sun.

You won't know until you try it.
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Medium Days may be a good option for the weekends. Thanks for the suggestion Cindy.
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Medium Days may be a good option for the weekends. Thanks for the suggestion Cindy.
If you use a MD it should be after a DD if at all possible (DD, MD, UD, DD, UD, DD, etc...)

Think Small, Medium, Large. It would not be great to have a MD and then go into a DD as you may feel more hungry than if you had an UD.

I recommend trying EOD rotations first, but like Cindy said, it's more important that the WOE is sustainable, but DDs tend to become very easy so it may not be an issue once you get into the swing of juddd.
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Thanks for the info Carly. After some pondering, I think I am going to try:

Mon: DD
Tue: UD
Wed: DD
Thu: UD
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Sat: MD
Sun: UD

Getting kind of excited! I love new adventures!
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Thanks for the info Carly. After some pondering, I think I am going to try:

Mon: DD
Tue: UD
Wed: DD
Thu: UD
Fri: DD
Sat: MD
Sun: UD

Getting kind of excited! I love new adventures!
Sounds good.
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I started my JUDDD journey on 5/23. And these DD days are HARD. LOL! I've been averaging around 500-600 cals on my DD days. The JUDDD calculator says my DD cals should be around 350 but I can't fathom eating that little w/o passing out during the day. Is it ok to eat around 500-600? My UD cals should be around 1752 but I can't eat that much and average around 1300-1600 cals. Does that make up for my high DD days?
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I started my JUDDD journey on 5/23. And these DD days are HARD. LOL! I've been averaging around 500-600 cals on my DD days. The JUDDD calculator says my DD cals should be around 350 but I can't fathom eating that little w/o passing out during the day. Is it ok to eat around 500-600? My UD cals should be around 1752 but I can't eat that much and average around 1300-1600 cals. Does that make up for my high DD days?
It really doesn't, no. Part of the point of JUDDD is the swing in the calories. At the very least you should have 1000 calories between your DD and your UD count. Otherwise, you're just doing a calorie restricted diet.

I'd recommend spending some time reading through the daily DD threads and the stickies for menu ideas on DDs. There are actually a lot of things you can eat for very few calories. Additionally, things like dark chocolate, nuts, peanut butter, coconut oil, butter, etc can be used to get your UD calories up into range.
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It really doesn't, no. Part of the point of JUDDD is the swing in the calories. At the very least you should have 1000 calories between your DD and your UD count. Otherwise, you're just doing a calorie restricted diet.

I'd recommend spending some time reading through the daily DD threads and the stickies for menu ideas on DDs. There are actually a lot of things you can eat for very few calories. Additionally, things like dark chocolate, nuts, peanut butter, coconut oil, butter, etc can be used to get your UD calories up into range.

Thank you for responding. I've been reading and educating myself all evening long. I'll be trying to eat more on my UDs.
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I started my JUDDD journey on 5/23. And these DD days are HARD. LOL! I've been averaging around 500-600 cals on my DD days. The JUDDD calculator says my DD cals should be around 350 but I can't fathom eating that little w/o passing out during the day. Is it ok to eat around 500-600? My UD cals should be around 1752 but I can't eat that much and average around 1300-1600 cals. Does that make up for my high DD days?
Like Yennie said, it doesn't work that way. You can see my DD menu in today's DD thread. I think that is quite a bit of food for under 160 calories. You can double that and be under 400, but you definitely need to eat your UD calories or a least as close to them as possible.
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Thank you for responding. I've been reading and educating myself all evening long. I'll be trying to eat more on my UDs.
Fantastic!! This is a great WOE, and there are so many who have been successful. These boards are great for questions and such. Do check out the DD recipe sticky thread. You'd be surprised how many veggies you can eat for 3-400 calories. Also remember that Dr J says you can go as high as 500 cals for your first 2 weeks on your DDs then gradually work your way down from there. If you're eating your full UD cals then a 500 cal DD won't be such a big deal.
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Almost to the end of the month, and as a newbie in May, it has been a great experience so far. My weight is about 7 pounds less than when I began on May 1st. I found out I can do DDs eod and they are becoming second nature. I am figuring it out slowly, but it feels like something I can stick with for life. I don't do deprivation well and that is how dieting normally felt to me. JUDDD does not feel like I am denying myself anything - and I can certainly wait ONE day for anything.

I have been reading the threads about the "magic" of JUDDD and cannot claim it entirely for myself just yet. I do not have more energy, but am looking forward to it for sure. DDs, although not that difficult - my mind still wants to eat at times and I need to remind myself it's not real hunger. I am taking ptero daily and feel it helps with hunger a bit, but don't notice extreme results just yet.
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Goner it seems to me that you have had a really good month.

7 lbs is a great loss, remember... we are only dieting half of the time. I hope you soon feel that energy so many of us find. How much ptero do you take.

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Goner it seems to me that you have had a really good month.

7 lbs is a great loss, remember... we are only dieting half of the time. I hope you soon feel that energy so many of us find. How much ptero do you take.

Well done.
Thanks. I'm taking 100 mg of ptero this week, last week I began with 50 mg. I was increasing gradually as in the beginning I had a headache for two days.

My 7 pounds is extraordinary to me, fogot to mention there was a small break of 4 days while on vacation in the middle of the month too.
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I started my JUDDD journey on 5/23. And these DD days are HARD. LOL! I've been averaging around 500-600 cals on my DD days. The JUDDD calculator says my DD cals should be around 350 but I can't fathom eating that little w/o passing out during the day. Is it ok to eat around 500-600? My UD cals should be around 1752 but I can't eat that much and average around 1300-1600 cals. Does that make up for my high DD days?
I find HB eggs to be very filling and satisfies my appetitie for long periods of time. At 75 calories per egg I can have 4 after my 50 calorie morning coffee (cream) and that gets me through a DD very easily with 350 calories. Just a thought. I am one that did and still does very low calorie DD's so I can splurge on UD's.
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I have ordered The Alternate-Day Diet book (should be delivered tomorrow) and I plan to start on Monday with my first DD (so I guess I'll officially be a June newbie.) How do you get through your DD's? Have you found eating things like SF Jello helps (you can eat the whole package at only 16 calories) or do you seem to do better eating real food like salads, etc.? Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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My best DD menu for not being hungry starts with coffee with HWC and HB eggs the rest of the day. I don't consider salad food since all I really like is the salad dressing. The fullfat high calorie salad dressing.
broth cubes to make a cup of broth are only 5 calories too. I drink that also on some days. And a pickle spear with a HB egg is a meal for me.
Good luck and the more boring the menu the better it is. You won't want extra if it is boring food. Just my way of coping.
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How do you get through your DD's? Have you found eating things like SF Jello helps (you can eat the whole package at only 16 calories) or do you seem to do better eating real food like salads, etc.? Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Hello and KYSoccerMom.

We all discover our own way of dealing with DDs. you might get some ideas from:
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Do the DDs get easier? Not hunger related....

Feeling "spaced out" and can't focus?

It might be worth looking at the daily DD threads to see what other people eat.

I like Shirataki noodles, particularly in a broth with some vegetables as they provide very low calorie bulk when I need it. I also enjoy glucomannan puddings and shakes because they have a luxurious mouthfeel for relatively few calories. (Recipes in some of the above DD recipe threads and
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I have ordered The Alternate-Day Diet book (should be delivered tomorrow) and I plan to start on Monday with my first DD (so I guess I'll officially be a June newbie.) How do you get through your DD's? Have you found eating things like SF Jello helps (you can eat the whole package at only 16 calories) or do you seem to do better eating real food like salads, etc.? Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
! The book will help, but so will doing tons of reading right here on all the JUDDD threads. That has helped me more than anything, along with being active on this board. The support is unbeatable, and the feeling of community, with people who understand the journey invaluable.

For me, coffee and heavy whipping cream (HWC) gets me through the morning, and sometimes another one gets me through to dinner. Eating anything solid wakes up my hungry monster, as we say. I do tend more towards protein and fat to stay satisfied though, having been LC for many years. Lately I've been enjoying a large sliced cucumber and a couple of sliced roma tomatoes with my dinner. Very filling.
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I have ordered The Alternate-Day Diet book (should be delivered tomorrow) and I plan to start on Monday with my first DD (so I guess I'll officially be a June newbie.) How do you get through your DD's? Have you found eating things like SF Jello helps (you can eat the whole package at only 16 calories) or do you seem to do better eating real food like salads, etc.? Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
I am a May newbie! I found through trial and error this month on JUDDD that for me - protein hb egg, 1 slice bacon, laughing cow cheese wedge) and some low carb veggies and yogurt are my go to foods on a DD. I also add about 50 calories of walnuts or almonds into the yogurt for extra fat. YMMV as you go along. Good Luck!
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Thanks everyone. I got the book yesterday and I am glad I got it. Wow--I didn't realize there would be so many other benefits from this WOE--makes me doubly glad I am giving it a try.

I think I am going to do a combination of shakes and broth on my DD's--maybe some tea (but that sometimes doesn't agree with my stomach.) I don't think I will have a problem keeping the calories below 500 knowing that I can have something I really want the next day.

I don't think I am going to have a problem getting in the number of calories I need for the UD's--I do LOVE to eat. Originally I had planned to only count the calories on the DD's, but I am starting to think I will need to count them on the UD's just to make sure I am not going WAY over (at least I'll count them the first 2 weeks, probably just to get an idea of what I can eat.) What is everyone's thought on this--can you go way over? I think I am supposed to get about 1800 calories on my UD's, but I feel I probably eat more like 2000-2500 each day. If I go that high, is it going to slow down weight loss alot?

I think what I am going to really love about this diet is that no food is really restricted. Obviously you don't want to go overboard on sweets, but I love that if someone brings in something to share at work, I can have it and not have to think about how many "carbs" there might be in it.
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Thanks everyone. I got the book yesterday and I am glad I got it. Wow--I didn't realize there would be so many other benefits from this WOE--makes me doubly glad I am giving it a try.

I think I am going to do a combination of shakes and broth on my DD's--maybe some tea (but that sometimes doesn't agree with my stomach.) I don't think I will have a problem keeping the calories below 500 knowing that I can have something I really want the next day.

I don't think I am going to have a problem getting in the number of calories I need for the UD's--I do LOVE to eat. Originally I had planned to only count the calories on the DD's, but I am starting to think I will need to count them on the UD's just to make sure I am not going WAY over (at least I'll count them the first 2 weeks, probably just to get an idea of what I can eat.) What is everyone's thought on this--can you go way over? I think I am supposed to get about 1800 calories on my UD's, but I feel I probably eat more like 2000-2500 each day. If I go that high, is it going to slow down weight loss alot?

I think what I am going to really love about this diet is that no food is really restricted. Obviously you don't want to go overboard on sweets, but I love that if someone brings in something to share at work, I can have it and not have to think about how many "carbs" there might be in it.
I think it is really important to count UDs until you know for sure you wont over eat your UD calories. Yes, if you consistently eat 200-600 calories over your UD number it will slow losses. Every now and then isn't an issue, but it's best to stick as close as possible. If at some point you decide to hold DDs to about 100 or so calories you can slide 200 or so to your UD, but I would follow the plan as written before making any changes.
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I also think it's important to count. I could easily eat over 3000 calories in a day, even now, if I didn't count. I didn't get Carly's wonderful reduction in appetite to go with my reduction in weight.
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I also think it's important to count. I could easily eat over 3000 calories in a day, even now, if I didn't count. I didn't get Carly's wonderful reduction in appetite to go with my reduction in weight.
Same for me.
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:48 AM   #239
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I agree about counting calories on an UD. But for me, I am not well versed in calorie counts of foods. It is getting more second nature to me, as I do tend to eat some foods over and over and now know their calorie count. YMMV of course.

The only day so far, in my second week of JUDDD, I counted AFTER I ate for the day - and I was over by 300 calories on an UD. For me - lesson learned. I now realize that prior to JUDDD, I was probably eating about 1700-2000 calories most days of the week. Amazing now that I think of it. I also know that at 60+ my body needs less calories. I definitely know I have slowed down "just a touch" with age. At least "Just a touch" is all I'm admitting to.
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Old 05-31-2013, 04:05 PM   #240
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