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Old 04-21-2013, 06:21 PM   #31
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I'm also "doing my thing" 2 UD then 1 DD.

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Old 04-21-2013, 08:28 PM   #32
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Within calories on today's UD but expecting a big bounce tomorrow from the salty restaurant food. Oh well. I'll try not to cringe when i step on the scale and will drink lots of lemon water and tea.
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I found, and still, find keeping my body guessing and jumping my calories all over the place is very useful and productive. I called it 'shake it up'.

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Old 04-22-2013, 07:26 AM   #34
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Not a terrible bounce - although I have a history of delayed bounces so I could still see a scale impact tomorrow. Shooting for a low DD today but may take a rest day from exercise. We'll see. Have a great day all!
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Old 04-22-2013, 07:32 AM   #35
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I had a high UD yesterday and saw the typical 2 lb bounce today. Although I hate delaying UDs another day after a DD, it seems like the only way I'm going to get things under control and start losing. DD today, tomorrow is a dept. luncheon...hmmmm, should I try and make it a MD? Lunch will be on campus... Worried that I can't stick with a MD...seems full on, or full stop for me.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:32 AM   #36
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Hey Librarygirl - I find MDs a bit harder as well because it feels more like a classic diet day. Although I have to confess that even 1800 calorie UDs feel like a diet day to me. For instance, I have to budget and scrimp early in the day so I can eat what (for me) is normal at a dinner out. A restaurant meal with bread, wine, entree, desert is easily 2000 cals -- without blinking and without an appetizer. So I still have to fast the whole day if I am going to dinner on a Saturday- which I often do. Crap - there is no getting around it. I need to make the mental shift that MD/UD is NOT a reward day. There simply isn't enough wiggle room to really reward.

DDs are simple -you know what you are getting in for. Maybe we could strategize here how to make those MDs and UDs easier to control without feeling controlled IYKWIM?
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:43 AM   #37
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I definitely KWYM! Yes, if we want something extravagant, then something else has to be kept "in check". However, with 3-day rotations, there will be no more than 3 UDs in a week, and 2 the opposite week. Whereas now, there are 3 UDs one wk, and 4 the next. Definitely should make a difference if you're inclined to UUADs because there won't be as much opportunity.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:50 AM   #38
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Fewer opportunities to go wild on an UUAD are absolutely a factor in favor of the 3 day rotation for me! I also like fewer DDs and can lose (and have) on a good MD without feeling the complete deprivation of the DD. Harder work, but more food LOL! This comes in handy during my work week when I often have lunch meetings. On MDs and UDs - no problem. I can cope. It's only the DDs that can be problematic now. I can still cope but who wants to sit around a table and pick at salad leaves with vinegar dressing?
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:43 AM   #39
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I have to admit that I've messed up the days and have done a few MD's...all I know is that even tho I mess up, I keep on trying to make it work for me, and even after being down for two weeks sick, I am still on track to lose my 30 lbs by the end of April..to me, this is just a miracle way of eating and losing weight. , five full months, that's a good 6 lbs a month, and I never feel deprived.
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:51 AM   #40
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WTG Jaymar! I would be at goal now if I had been losing 6 pounds a month! That's awesome progress.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:02 AM   #41
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That's awesome Jaymar!


TJ, when I've had all my UD cals and fancy something else, I remind myself I'm trying to lose weight and ask myself if I really want/need it. That takes the "reward" aspect away, somehow.

For me, even worse than "deprivation", is to have eaten something and then decide it wasn't worth the calories - too late once it's in there!
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:15 PM   #42
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Great thread!! I modified my JUDD rotations about 6 -8 weeks ago and I am doing something like this. I eat 1, 2 or 3 meals each day depending on my schedule. Each meal is between <500 - 800+ cals. Sounds like this DD, MD, UD rotation, though I generally only have 1 strict DD per week. I don't really count cals anymore, but try to stay mindful. I am close to goal and have easily maintained under 145 and am still trending down slowly to my goal of under 140.

My impression is that when I was JUDD EOD, over the course of a week, I was actually NOT eating enough as I was watching carefully my UD, (which probably isn't as necessary as we think), and then kept bouncing the same 2 pounds.

It's a great tweak -it's working for me. :-)
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:22 PM   #43
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I would like to think I'm not eating enough, but that would be wishful thinking. I know when I watch my UD cals more closely, I lose better. My problem is eating too much.
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I would like to think I'm not eating enough, but that would be wishful thinking. I know when I watch my UD cals more closely, I lose better. My problem is eating too much.
It's a delicate balance on the counting, isn't it? Some successes like Dawn, Carly, etc, seem to get the balance right. Some, like yourself, have a hard time by going over on UDs - Steph comes to mind, too. And there are the "over-restricters" like myself. If eating less is good, then eating even less is better!! NOT!!!
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:24 PM   #45
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I don't go way over, as in 3000-4000 calories, and I am still losing. However, I'd like to lose 4+ lbs a month instead of 2.
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:55 PM   #46
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Old 04-22-2013, 02:25 PM   #47
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Thanks Kristin! The perseverance and support of all the JBs kept me trying. I value each and every one!
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Old 04-22-2013, 02:28 PM   #48
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WTG Jaymar! I would be at goal now if I had been losing 6 pounds a month! That's awesome progress.
I would be a lot closer too! In fact I would be 13 lbs closer. I guess it's not that much difference in the scheme of things. I'm going to be either dieting from now on, or watching what I eat, so ...
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Thanks Kristin! The perseverance and support of all the JBs kept me trying. I value each and every one!
Amen to that! I am so grateful for this community!
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:56 AM   #50
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This sounds like something I'd like to try. I'm stalled (2 lbs up, 2 lbs down) for some time now.
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:37 AM   #51
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That seems to be the chorus for a lot of JUDDDers, Jode. Myself included. I spend half the month going up and down the same 2-3 lbs, then maybe a lb lower before month's end. Then the next month, rinse, repeat. Gonna try this after next DD (tomorrow)...Thurs (MD), Fri (UD), Sat (DD), Sun (MD)...at least see if things look a little better on the scale.

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Old 04-23-2013, 12:41 PM   #52
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Well, today I'm doing a MD. (Yesterday was my DD).

I recalculated my DDs, MDs, and UDs to be within a range so as not to be overly restrictive. I can go low or high range depending on my hunger or lack of. (I'm tired of being "anal" about my eating, and only losing and gaining the same 2 lbs). *sigh*

My plan is to try to stick to low calorie veggies on a DD, soup and (of course) my coffee (with cream).

This sounds so doable. Should we give this a name? (JUDDD 1-2-3?)
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Old 04-23-2013, 03:36 PM   #53
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I've just been calling it the 3 day rotation but if you have something "catchier" Jodeeras let's do it. Maybe then you could write your book LibraryGirl! We'll beat this gaining and losing the same two pounds. I just wish I had found it sooner as I lost and gained the same couple of pounds for about 5 months!
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I will be cheering you all on! It's awesome this is working for some of you! I'm reluctant to tweek still as the few MDs I've done in the past have seemed to backfire on me. However, it is wonderful to know there are things we can do if those same pesky up/downs stall for awhile! Go team!!!!!
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Old 04-24-2013, 08:09 AM   #55
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Flutter, I've heard other people say that too, but usually it adds an MD where there would have been a DD, doesn't it? This way (1-2-3 JUDDD ) you aren't getting as many high-calories days during the week, and you aren't adding any extra (calories) either.
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Old 04-24-2013, 08:37 AM   #56
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Back to my previous low - yah! BUT today is an UD so a drop after today would be really unexpected. Hopefully the next rotation will bring me to a NEW low. I guess it was too much to hope that each and every 1-2-3 day rotation would come with a loss, huh? Still a good trajectory and MUCH, MUCH more productive then the EOD fasting I have been doing for months.
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Very curious to see everyone's results on this! Trying, I'm so happy you found something that got things moving again for you. As great as it was to see your determination after so many months stalled, it's even better to see you losing!

Question for you-when you plug in the 60% maintenance into the calculator, it gives a lower UD number. Do you use that lower number for your next day UD, or do you use your normal UD calorie allotment?
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:13 AM   #58
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I think I am going to try this too! My problem on UD's is after I eat breakfast, I am hungry all day and I want to mack all day long, and they turn into free for all days. I think more frequent MD's would work better for me because I can fast longer till mid day and eat a decent lunch. Once I break that fast in the morning on UD's, it's all over for me.
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I think I am going to try this too! My problem on UD's is after I eat breakfast, I am hungry all day and I want to mack all day long, and they turn into free for all days. I think more frequent MD's would work better for me because I can fast longer till mid day and eat a decent lunch. Once I break that fast in the morning on UD's, it's all over for me
Boy can I ever relate to this. I've been skipping breakfast just because I end up grazing all day if I eat one, unless I'm vlc which I just can't make myself do right now. Maybe MD's are the solution!
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