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Old 03-27-2013, 05:41 PM   #61
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Sorry Vanilla, librarygirl, all the turtles. I know this sucks. I am exactly where I ended in Jan and in Feb and now in March too. Unless something miraculous happens in the next 4 days I will have run in place for 3 months yet again. 3 months of work for nothing. No NSVs. No size changes. 3 months closer to summer and nothing to show for it. Ugh. I am with all you turtles --- bummed and hoping, wishing for an answer. I am afraid to even think it but I think for me it might be LC Juddding which sort of defeats the purpose and the appeal but dieting without results is also unappealing. I am trying to talk myself into a LC JUDDD April to get some results. Anyone want to try with me?
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stupid scales! I certainly have been moaning along with you all recently. It just doesn't make any sense why these things happen. It would be one thing if you could put your finger on something you're not doing right because then you would feel empowered to CHANGE it and get the pounds dropping again. It's just so disheartening when you can't figure out what's going wrong. Stupid scale. I really hate that thing!!!

TJ, I have reluctantly thought about LC'ing for April. I really don't want to, though. I am just so burned out after losing and regaining with SB/LC so many times. I think I may alternate UDs LC when I get back from vacation. I definitely am going to add in weight training now and walking. I've just been waiting for the warm weather to finally arrive in the tundra. I figure, if it's going to be slow, I might as well start focusing on some exercise and toning. UGHHHHHHHH
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Well I tried the calculator and it said I had a BMI of 0.4!!!!!
Were you looking inside the big red circle? That's the difference in your BMI between the old system and the new system. Your actual BMI is on the slider on the bottom of the page.
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:45 AM   #65
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I finally made it back to my low of 8 days ago. I was hoping to go beyond that this month, but it looks like I will at least go down 2 lbs for the month.
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I finally made it back to my low of 8 days ago. I was hoping to go beyond that this month, but it looks like I will at least go down 2 lbs for the month.
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my BMI says I am point 3 more than I was oh well.
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I finally made it back to my low of 8 days ago. I was hoping to go beyond that this month, but it looks like I will at least go down 2 lbs for the month.
Congratulations Cindy. I definitely see that, from looking at your weight loss record, that what you are losing is *real* weight. Thee kind you keep off
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:42 AM   #69
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Real slow. I'll take fake weight loss if I can see it on the scale!!!

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I still use the old-fashioned 100 lbs + 5 lbs for each inch of height over 5', plus or minus 10% for frame size and musculature. I'm 5'8", so that's 140, with a range of 126-154. I vaguely remember being at 140 (in high school, and thinking I was FAT!) but have no concept of what 154 would look like on me. I'm thinking I'd be smoking hot!
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wooooahhh Sirtain! I cannot go by your formula. That would mean I should be 125! Oh but how I would love to be 125. Can't even imagine!!
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That would put me at 135 as ideal which is what the scale said this morning and a range of 121.5 to 148.5. I was 120 for most of my adult life but doubt seriously that I need or even want to weigh at the bottom of the range at my age.
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I am so thrilled to see your weight has dropped again Cindy.
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I still use the old-fashioned 100 lbs + 5 lbs for each inch of height over 5', plus or minus 10% for frame size and musculature. I'm 5'8", so that's 140, with a range of 126-154. I vaguely remember being at 140 (in high school, and thinking I was FAT!) but have no concept of what 154 would look like on me. I'm thinking I'd be smoking hot!
That formula puts me at 145 ideal with a range of 130.5 to 159.5. I'm at the tip top of that range right now. I like the other way better.
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For me personally, I stall with normal UD / DD rotations unless I pay attention to carbs. I am not as strict about it, for sure, as regular VLC or LC without rotations, but I get much better results with JUDDD if I watch them. For me, it's especially important on UD's and even more important on UUADs. If I carb saturate on an UUAD, I can be up as much as 8 -10 lbs that takes weeks to come back off. Another thing that helps me a lot is to not eat until mid-afternoon on a DD and have a protein shake immediately following a few high intensity intervals. ( Very vigorous arm pumping for 30 seconds, 8 rotations, with a few minutes in between). According to what I have read, high intensity interval training at the end of a fast, with immediate protein supplementation to protect muscle, results in such a large increase in HGH that atheletes cannot be tested for abuse as this works so well. Give it a try and see if it helps you out at all. I am looking forward to being over this cold so I feel well and can start back with it myself. HUGS to all my turtle JB's.

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Old 03-28-2013, 02:41 PM   #76
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That formula puts me at 120 or a little lower (because I've shrunk!), with a range of 108-132. Yikes! I managed to maintain at 124 in my early thirties for a while and I loved the way I looked. However, I feel it's in the past now. My 64 year old sister maintains at 105 and she is 5'1 or 5'2ish. I remember her being so upset about getting up to 115 lol.

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I still use the old-fashioned 100 lbs + 5 lbs for each inch of height over 5', plus or minus 10% for frame size and musculature. I'm 5'8", so that's 140, with a range of 126-154. I vaguely remember being at 140 (in high school, and thinking I was FAT!) but have no concept of what 154 would look like on me. I'm thinking I'd be smoking hot!
That puts me at 110 with a range from 99-121 so I'm overweight still
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Old 03-28-2013, 05:26 PM   #78
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No way, Carly!!! Like someone posted in another thread (I don't know which), we carried around so much weight before we lost, we developed muscles! That's why we look so much smaller at a higher weight! You are perfect.
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No way, Carly!!! Like someone posted in another thread (I don't know which), we carried around so much weight before we lost, we developed muscles! That's why we look so much smaller at a higher weight! You are perfect.
Oh, OK... I'll take it. It must be all the muscles (read loose skin) bumping me up from my low range number of 99lbs . That can be healthy... Could it?
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Oh good grief, I've lost this reply several times so I'm just going to mention Braverman and Shah's discussion of BMI in 2012 and the results of their BMI, DXA scan and leptin study.

PLOS ONE: Measuring Adiposity in Patients: The Utility of Body Mass Index (BMI), Percent Body Fat, and Leptin

For various interesting reasons they propose that the BMI threshold should be 24 for women and 28 for men but discuss some of the reasons why BMI is convenient but a very blunt tool as Yennie and others indicate.

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BMI is possibly more misleading for women than for men, Braverman and Shah say, since women lose muscle and bone, and replace it with fat, faster than men. BMI measurements don’t take into account precisely how weight is distributed in the body, and, as Braverman explained to HealthDay, “it’s the percent of body fat, not BMI, that makes you obese.”

Based on BMI, about one-third of Americans are considered obese, but when other methods of measuring obesity are used, that number may be closer to 60%, according to Braverman.

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2012/04/0...#ixzz2OuNdq37P

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Thanks for posting Ssure-very interesting!
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My mirror tells me I still have too much fat where I don't want it. And too little where I do.

Such is life. None of needs a chart to tell us these things in the end....
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My mirror tells me I still have too much fat where I don't want it. And too little where I do.

Such is life. None of needs a chart to tell us these things in the end....
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Such great inspiration! (Can you tell I needed this topic?) The skin advantage is a really good point!

I've been losing slowly lately, and if I look at it from how far I still want to go it can be discouraging, but from another perspective, just that I'm still hanging in there is a win. This is the longest I've ever followed any WOE that I can remember, and at 8 months on JUDDD (nine total), instead of rapidly regaining what I've lost as I have in the past, I'm still going down! So slowly is starting to look pretty good, especially since I feel like I can follow the JUDDD plan for a long time to come. I am looking forward to maintenance! And you never know, things might pick up. Stay the course, my friends!
Yes exactly! One way to think of it is like when you cooking something too fast it looks done on the outside but on the inside it's not cooked at all, it's undercooked and raw, but when you slow cook something, it takes longer but it gets done on the outside and on the inside. So losing fast sometimes makes you look good on the outside but not really changed on the inside verses losing slow allows the change to take place inside and outside. That helps the weightloss to be more permanent.

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Well, I only want to lose another 50 lbs, but I know what you're saying. I would be 84 lbs if I lost 120. I appreciate your wise advice, and your words have stayed with me throughout the day. I like that you are comfortable with your slow, steady losses, and also the fact that it may be better for our bodies too.
Thanks! I'm glad! Yeah I'm just happy that I stuck with it and didn't give up! Slow is better than nothing at all!

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Just found this. It's by Peter Voss in an article about CRON:

Over the longer term, the simplest way to judge calorie intake is weight. However, getting to the minimum, healthy weight should be done slowly - roughly no more than 2% per month for overweight people, 1% for others.

Wow, that's SLOW!!
Yeah, most doctors recommend slow weight loss except in cases where the person is so morbidly obese that it's life threatening, but yeah most of the time doctors recommend losing slowly.
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Yes exactly! One way to think of it is like when you cooking something too fast it looks done on the outside but on the inside it's not cooked at all, it's undercooked and raw, but when you slow cook something, it takes longer but it gets done on the outside and on the inside. So losing fast sometimes makes you look good on the outside but not really changed on the inside verses losing slow allows the change to take place inside and outside. That helps the weightloss to be more permanent.
Love that! And, since it's Easter, I can apply this! I read an article about cooking hard boiled eggs, and how many of us cook them too quickly, and it gives the dreaded GREY YOLK and the tough, rubbery white. If you start with the eggs in the cold water, then when it just begins to bubble turn off the heat, cover, and let sit in the hot water for 10 minutes, the yolks and the whites will be perfect. I tried it, and it works! Delicious Easter eggs! . . . slightly off topic, but as many of us enjoy hard boiled eggs on DDs, I thought I would mention it as an example of your excellent point.
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I think I would get quite a thrill if I got to the point where people would be telling me, 'you look great, don't lose any more weight,' and be able to say, 'but I'm technically still overweight!'

Numbers, which should be the ultimate in objectivity, are still just a rough guide. I have my 154 as the target I am aiming for, but I know it is going to take BEING at a weight, before I know if it is my goal weight or not.
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I had people calling me skinny at work on Friday. I told one of my co-workers that I was still technically obese and she looked shocked.
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Yay Cindy - skinny!
By the way, I'm 5'2".

Jen, I obviously did something wrong with the calculator. Found it amusing though!

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Gotta check in with the Turtle Club, as You Betcha a... I'm a member.

Does anyone remember "The Turtle Club" way back when...a catch phrase from my bar days, and, of course, the answer was the above, or you'd have to buy a round. ...oh well, it's not so funny in type as it used to be.

But I am a member of this group as I lost really well in the beginning, 37 pounds in the first five months, stopped for three months, dropped three, and now have held steady for this month...I've had the NSV's that I've written about and am feeling good, so this is the woe for me.

That said, I'm thinking of dropping back into Atkins Induction for a few weeks to see if I can restart the weight loss. Kimmie, I, too seem to lose better when I monitor the carbs and keep them low. I have had problems recently with being over my DD goals...and my UD's are low...not really following the plan, but looking for other ways to tweak.

I'm really wondering, tho', how much of our current retention is related to the time of the year....our bodies are designed to put weight on during the Fall in order to make it through the Winter. And, the fatter the person the better the chance to do so. Now that Spring is Springing, do you think it likely our bodies will start losing again?
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Jen, I obviously did something wrong with the calculator. Found it amusing though!
It wasn't laid out very clearly. And I'm inclined to think its hokey since it makes my BMI higher than the other scale. I hate BMI as I think its bogus BUT I'll take the one that has me closer to not being obese anymore, thank you very much!!
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