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Old 03-14-2013, 04:37 AM   #61
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Morning 5:2 gang. I had a good day yesterday had to make myself eat a bit of toast to get in my calories, unusual for me. I think it was because I had a sandwich at about 3pm which meant I wasn't hungry in the evening.

My reward was a loss after an UD. 124.2 this morning, wow.
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Well this is a bit of an unexpected spurt. I am delighted though as I have noticed a bit of muffin top lately. I haven't done as many Zumba classes as I usually do and I sure those movements are great for the waist. I just ordered a new Callanetics DVD to motivate me.
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I think I'm ready to begin 5:2, now that I have hit the high end of my maintenance range this morning Ideally my range will be 132-135, and I'm at 135 right now. Today is an ud and tomorrow will be a dd, and then this weekend will be the start of 5:2 for me. I'd like to have Mondays and Thursdays be my dds, and then I'll also throw in extra dds on the Saturdays where we don't have plans (maybe 2 a month?). Trying to figure out my numbers, there's no way I can do 5-2,000 calorie days a week and not gain, so I'm playing around with a calorie calculator right now to get some numbers. I could also use my Juddd numbers, but by eliminating 1-2 dds a week I'd have to adjust my ud calorie number down I think? To maintain my current weight I'd need 11,165 calories a week. To lose a pound per week doing straight calories I'd have to cut back to 7,665 a week, which is very close to my JUDDD numbers with normal rotations and 20% dds (334c). To lose 1/2lb, it would be around 9,415 calories a week. Now to figure out how to make these numbers work for 5:2 I'm still in wl mode until I get to 132, but I don't mind getting there slowly.
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I think I'm ready to begin 5:2, now that I have hit the high end of my maintenance range this morning Ideally my range will be 132-135, and I'm at 135 right now. Today is an ud and tomorrow will be a dd, and then this weekend will be the start of 5:2 for me. I'd like to have Mondays and Thursdays be my dds, and then I'll also throw in extra dds on the Saturdays where we don't have plans (maybe 2 a month?). Trying to figure out my numbers, there's no way I can do 5-2,000 calorie days a week and not gain, so I'm playing around with a calorie calculator right now to get some numbers. I could also use my Juddd numbers, but by eliminating 1-2 dds a week I'd have to adjust my ud calorie number down I think? To maintain my current weight I'd need 11,165 calories a week. To lose a pound per week doing straight calories I'd have to cut back to 7,665 a week, which is very close to my JUDDD numbers with normal rotations and 20% dds (334c). To lose 1/2lb, it would be around 9,415 calories a week. Now to figure out how to make these numbers work for 5:2 I'm still in wl mode until I get to 132, but I don't mind getting there slowly.
5 UDs at 1683 and 2 DDs at 500 = 9415.
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5 UDs at 1683 and 2 DDs at 500 = 9415.
You do math faster than I do I'm going to try this and see how it goes! I've also started walking, but still put in little/no exercise in the calculator, since I don't think I'm burning too many calories yet exercising
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Sara, I believe that our personal guru and mathematician has solved your riddle. I vary my UDs some are more food than others and that suits me just fine.

I have found my DDs really, really easy lately and have seldom gone above 350, often much less.

I really hope this is going to be as good for you as it has been for me. The tricky bit is not letting an big bounces scare you away. Deep breaths, and march forward.
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Interesting reading, and I'm so pleased for you all who are finding success maintaining or losing on the 5:2. I wanted to swing in and see what was up because I'm thinking this is where I want to be in another xxx months when I'm at goal.
Since 1-March I've kinda been doing 5:2, although I didn't realize it until today (yes, I'm a little slow on the uptake) - had 2 stretches of "breaks" from JUDDDing with a few DDs thrown in there. I weighed myself today after an UD and was essentially 0.4# over my lowest point to date. So, while I didn't lose these 2 weeks, I didn't really gain either and I'm pleased with that. That's all I was hoping for and now back into WLM and strict EOD rotations BUT...
It hit me today (again - molasses in January) that this might be a good maintenance for me. So I popped in to see what's what and I'm liking what I see!
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Keira's mum; The figures you have worked out for mum23 is that for a appx weight loss of 1 lb per week or have you calculated for her current weight ?

Maths has never been my strongest point

I have been keeping my DD to 500/600 and UD I was messing around with. Sometimes heading for JUDDD 2000 and other days less or even less than 1500 so maybe I've been too erratic with the UD's and need to stick to a set number. EG 1600. Sorry I find all the UD numbers confusing. So might have been putting my body in starvation mode again. Which is very easy for me to do with my past track record.

So my question is for 1lb loss per week do I need 1683/500. Maybe if I definitely know my set number I will be able to stick to better. I think what happens to me is I have a panic attack that I'm eating more calories on the UD (never go over 2000) then I over compensate and go down to say 1200 on the other UD's because I'm scared of putting on. Hence I've not really made any further progress and again probs not eating enough. Also I go to the gym 4/5 times a week and I read somewhere that you should also be eating the calories that your burned on UD otherwise you are into starvation mode. So that also confused me. Why is this blooming losing weight so hard lol

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Keira's mum; The figures you have worked out for mum23 is that for a appx weight loss of 1 lb per week or have you calculated for her current weight ?

Maths has never been my strongest point

I have been keeping my DD to 500/600 and UD I was messing around with. Sometimes heading for JUDDD 2000 and other days less or even less than 1500 so maybe I've been too erratic with the UD's and need to stick to a set number. EG 1600. Sorry I find all the UD numbers confusing. So might have been putting my body in starvation mode again. Which is very easy for me to do with my past track record.

So my question is for 1lb loss per week do I need 1683/500. Maybe if I definitely know my set number I will be able to stick to better. I think what happens to me is I have a panic attack that I'm eating more calories on the UD (never go over 2000) then I over compensate and go down to say 1200 on the other UD's because I'm scared of putting on. Hence I've not really made any further progress and again probs not eating enough. Ablso I go to the gym 4/5 times a week and I read somewhere that you should also be eating the calories that your burned on UD otherwise you are into starvation mode. So that also confused me. Why is this blooming losing weight so hard lol

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The number is for my current weight, to lose .5lb per week. We took my straight calories for a week and then fit them into the 5:2 format

I'm 34, 5'6 and 135 lbs and no/little exercise (sedentry)

1,595 a day/11,165 a week to maintain current weight
-1,750 calories a week (3,500 calorie deficit equal 1lb loss a week but I want .5 a week loss)
=9,415 calories a week
-1,000 calories for 2 down days a week
=8,415 calories divided by remaining 5 days =1,683 caloriea
So my 5:2 numbers are 1,683 for 5 days, 500 calories for 2 days, for an average loss of .5 a week. Now to see if that's accurate
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The number is for my current weight, to lose .5lb per week. We took my straight calories for a week and then fit them into the 5:2 format

I'm 34, 5'6 and 135 lbs and no/little exercise (sedentry)

1,595 a day/11,165 a week to maintain current weight
-1,750 calories a week (3,500 calorie deficit equal 1lb loss a week but I want .5 a week loss)
=9,415 calories a week
-1,000 calories for 2 down days a week
=8,415 calories divided by remaining 5 days =1,683 caloriea
So my 5:2 numbers are 1,683 for 5 days, 500 calories for 2 days, for an average loss of .5 a week. Now to see if that's accurate
I think this is why I prefer 4:3 in maintenance, because my UDs can be a bit more and since I don't mind superlow DDs I get to slide a little more over, too. Last night we ate out at our favorite Mexican place and I probably had 11 million calories, but I feel like I can do that and not worry with 3 DDs under 300. For you guys maintaing on 5:2 do you feel like you can have a real slurge day once a week?
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Lola, the experts here would need stuff like age, weight and height to give you any idea of numbers. I seldom count on UD, but there is seldom any danger of me eating too little.

I did have a lowish UD, for me, last time and that was only around 100 below my JUDDD UD number of 1450 ish.

Jen, this is just a great place for maintaining. What I love is that if I was still doing JUDDD as written, each time I add an UD I'd feel guilty. But, doing 5:2, each time I add a DD I feel virtuous. This is good for my psyche.

124 this morning, well I saw a flash of 123.8 but I don't want to think I have huge bounce come Monday after 3 UDs with my DD1 and her DH staying. So I'll claim the 124 and be very happy.
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I think this is why I prefer 4:3 in maintenance, because my UDs can be a bit more and since I don't mind superlow DDs I get to slide a little more over, too. Last night we ate out at our favorite Mexican place and I probably had 11 million calories, but I feel like I can do that and not worry with 3 DDs under 300. For you guys maintaing on 5:2 do you feel like you can have a real slurge day once a week?
I'm just starting 5:2 tomorrow, so we'll see how my numbers play out in real life I also don't count calories at all on Sundays because we eat at my in-laws and I have no idea how to figure out how to calculate the meal-and it's nice to have one day a week where I relax and just enjoy eating as I want (within reason-I always skip b-fast because I know I'm going to have a large lunch there etc). That may affect the calculation, or it may not? I'm going to try 5:2 with these numbers and see how it goes for a couple weeks- I'm pretty much at maintenance now so even if I don't lose any more I'll be content. Just can't gain I also have started walking several times a week and want to get up to 10 miles a week over the next few weeks, so that's something I may need to factor in down the road.
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You will see higher numbers sometimes, that is the old bounce, but my advice would be to give it at least a month before you judge.

It'll be a while before you need worry about exercise calories, they seldom cause a problem.

Enjoy the ride, Sara.
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Keira's mum; The figures you have worked out for mum23 is that for a appx weight loss of 1 lb per week or have you calculated for her current weight ?

Maths has never been my strongest point

I have been keeping my DD to 500/600 and UD I was messing around with. Sometimes heading for JUDDD 2000 and other days less or even less than 1500 so maybe I've been too erratic with the UD's and need to stick to a set number. EG 1600. Sorry I find all the UD numbers confusing. So might have been putting my body in starvation mode again. Which is very easy for me to do with my past track record.

So my question is for 1lb loss per week do I need 1683/500. Maybe if I definitely know my set number I will be able to stick to better. I think what happens to me is I have a panic attack that I'm eating more calories on the UD (never go over 2000) then I over compensate and go down to say 1200 on the other UD's because I'm scared of putting on. Hence I've not really made any further progress and again probs not eating enough. Also I go to the gym 4/5 times a week and I read somewhere that you should also be eating the calories that your burned on UD otherwise you are into starvation mode. So that also confused me. Why is this blooming losing weight so hard lol

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I took the number mom23kids provided and just worked out what the daily amounts would be from that, based on her explanation below. I'm assuming she worked out her TDEE on a TDEE calculator or something similar. (I've used Scooby's TDEE calculator for myself just out of curiosity, but you'd have to google it because I'm not sure if he sells anything on his site)

I'm using the JUDDD calculator numbers for myself, and it actually works out pretty close to the Scooby numbers. I allow myself up to 2000 on UDs, but usually stay around 1750, and DDs are usually around 250.

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The number is for my current weight, to lose .5lb per week. We took my straight calories for a week and then fit them into the 5:2 format

I'm 34, 5'6 and 135 lbs and no/little exercise (sedentry)

1,595 a day/11,165 a week to maintain current weight
-1,750 calories a week (3,500 calorie deficit equal 1lb loss a week but I want .5 a week loss)
=9,415 calories a week
-1,000 calories for 2 down days a week
=8,415 calories divided by remaining 5 days =1,683 caloriea
So my 5:2 numbers are 1,683 for 5 days, 500 calories for 2 days, for an average loss of .5 a week. Now to see if that's accurate
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I think this is why I prefer 4:3 in maintenance, because my UDs can be a bit more and since I don't mind superlow DDs I get to slide a little more over, too. Last night we ate out at our favorite Mexican place and I probably had 11 million calories, but I feel like I can do that and not worry with 3 DDs under 300. For you guys maintaing on 5:2 do you feel like you can have a real slurge day once a week?
Yes to that! Went out to eat on Wednesday, then got home and had a couple "drinks"!!

Today was weigh-in for me, stayed the same! Wanted to see a loss, but didn't!

I do count calories, mine were averaged at : UD - 1597 and DD - 551, that comes to 9084 for the week and averages to 1298 a day!

I am going to do TEE again and see what my #'s should be! I am using my goal weight for that, is that correct? Or should I use my current weight?
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You will see higher numbers sometimes, that is the old bounce, but my advice would be to give it at least a month before you judge.

It'll be a while before you need worry about exercise calories, they seldom cause a problem.

Enjoy the ride, Sara.
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The number is for my current weight, to lose .5lb per week. We took my straight calories for a week and then fit them into the 5:2 format

I'm 34, 5'6 and 135 lbs and no/little exercise (sedentry)

1,595 a day/11,165 a week to maintain current weight
-1,750 calories a week (3,500 calorie deficit equal 1lb loss a week but I want .5 a week loss)
=9,415 calories a week
-1,000 calories for 2 down days a week
=8,415 calories divided by remaining 5 days =1,683 caloriea
So my 5:2 numbers are 1,683 for 5 days, 500 calories for 2 days, for an average loss of .5 a week. Now to see if that's accurate

Thank you. Got it all worked out. With my age, lifestyle, TDDE etc.

Based on 4:3. To lose 1lb a week I should be 500/2250. So this is again maybe where I'm going wrong. Not eating enough calories. (DD tells me. Guy at gym tells me). But I find it hard to eat at that level of calories after years of calorie restrictions. But will try harder to get into my mind its ok and gonna work

Have a nice weekend team xxx

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Lola, you are lucky, that seems high, you did alter the boxes to pounds and inches?
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Kissa I must admit I thought it was high. Told ya maths my weak subject. My TDEE came out at 2000. Multiplied by 7. Took off 3500 to lose 1lb week and then deducted 1500 for 3 days. And divided remaining by 4

Yep got height and weight right.

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Tbh I would like to lose 2 lb a week if I could so may need to re look at numbers. Or maybe because of my age I need to deduct more than 3500 to lose a pound. On EOD I came out at 2000 UD. So thinking about it no doesn't seem correct does it lol
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Yes, I had a look at the JUDDD calculator and at 25% it has you at just under 500 and 2000. I'd be inclined to use those numbers. Rounding up to 500 and 2000. I always aim for the lowest DD I can and seldom hit 500. I am sometimes over the 2000 although I should be much lower.

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Kissa thank you. TBH as I said hitting 2k for me is an achievement. So 2250. Almost an impossibility. I just need to get my mindset into the 2 k.

Keirasmum. I've picked up that you've been quite chilled with it previously and not like me who panics the at merest upwards trend. So by middle of week or another chucked in DD. I'm sure you'll be good
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Starting 5:2 today I had my last under 500c day yesterday, and woke up to a new low of 134.5 this morning My maintenance range goal is 132-135 so I'm in the zone now
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