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Old 03-04-2013, 01:47 PM   #61
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I should be okay then, since I tend to not get all my UD calories in unless I'm counting them. Which begs the question - if I under eat, why the heck do I have a weight problem????
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I have done several now and I'm getting much higher numbers then you guys are.
I did the option for 1-3 days of exercise, since you said light exercise. The one I'm using was highly recommended by several people on my calorie counting website. When I google "TDEE Calculator" it's the 4th one down.
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But in the book Dr. Mosley says to use 25% of you regular calories on the DDs. At that percentage I get:

1895 UDs

474 DDs

Adding these together: 1895 x 5 = 9475 + 1000 (2 x 500) = 10475. Divide this by 7 than I should be eating 1497 a day (rounded up).

I will use 1500 calories for my RD/UD and see how it goes. I may find I'll lose a bit faster with this number instead of the 1700.

If I use TDEE I get a lot more calories a day so this is where I'm confused. What do we all go by; the BMR or TDEE?

Thanks for doing this for me!!
I took the JUDDD UD number and multiplied by 4, then took the DD number and multiplied by 3, added the two together, subtracted 1000 for the 2 500 DDs, then divided the remainder by 5. Was that incorrect? JUDDD assumes you will be having no more than 4 UDs in a week, I think.

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Old 03-04-2013, 03:20 PM   #64
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Whoa, my head is spinning with all these numbers!!!!!! I thought 5:2 was supposed to be 2000/500 if it came down to numbers. That said, my JUDDD numbers are:

1998/400 (light or no exercise, 20% WLM)
1998/500 (light or no exercise, 25% WLM)

So, where do I go from here?
But JUDDD is ADF, so your UD numbers are going to be significantly lower.
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Old 03-04-2013, 03:42 PM   #67
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If you follow the guidelines of 2000 a day for women, that's what 5:2 recommends. The average will be 1571 per day, and most people will lose at that amount, just slowly. That is, eat 2000 calories 5 days a week, 500 2 days a week. I was only trying to figure out what I would need to eat in order to lose 1-2 lbs a week, rather than 1-2 lbs a month. Whatever you're comfortable with, and of course, your exercise levels etc. is what should govern your decision.

My JUDDD numbers are 1859/372 which is a daily average of 1222, which is a good number to lose weight. Therefore, with only 2 DDs a week and 500 each DD, my UDs (5 days) are only 1510 on the 5:2 diet. Does that make sense? Naturally you can eat a lot more, if you're fasting every other day...although you're not really eating more. LOL!
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I am going to use 500 or less for each SD/DD and 1600/1650 or a bit less for my RD/UD and see how it goes.

I tweaked the heck out of JUDDD in the very beginning back when I started and used 700/1700 and lost like a house on fire with no exercise at all.

Time will tell how these numbers work and if not I'll just tweak again!
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Just whizzing by on my way to Gym and then some work. Down Day for me today.

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I think I'm trying to make it too complicated. The beauty of JUDDD and 5:2 is that they are simple to follow, as long as you also fast. If we get too heavily into the numbers none of us will be motivated to keep this up, so let your body be your guide and let's continue the experiment.
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I figure if I control my UDs that is a huge win and I MUST lose weight. Had a good DD yesterday (335 cals) and am counting today and tomorrow shooting for 1600 cals each day before my Thursday DD. Now if the scale (or pants) would just cooperate I can keep this up!
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pants) would just cooperate I can keep this up!_

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I think I'm trying to make it too complicated. The beauty of JUDDD and 5:2 is that they are simple to follow, as long as you also fast. If we get too heavily into the numbers none of us will be motivated to keep this up, so let your body be your guide and let's continue the experiment.
I'm thinking you are so right here! I'm pretty disheartened today with my after DD weight loss. I've been bouncing the same weight, up and down, since starting this WOE except for a .6 pound loss. I know it's a loss but a tad bit more than a 1/2 a pound in 3 weeks just isn't encouraging.

I'm maintaining and I don't want to maintain!! And here I was thinking that counting my UD numbers or watching really closely was going to help.

I want to go back to JUDDD but I know I can't! I lost so well, 6 pounds in my first month, 3 pounds every month after that. 1/2 pound a month is just not going to work for me! If I wasn't so afraid of the binging again I would be jumping on the JUDDD wagon right now!

I'm not backing away from 5:2 but need to figure something out to get the weight moving off! This is just !!! Maybe 2 UDs then a DD and so on? That would be almost 3 DDs in a week and maybe that will move things along?

I'm just so frustrated right now!!
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Linda, I only went down .4 after Sun's DD, yesterday. I was a little disheartened too. But today I was down 2.2! After a UD! I only had 2 DDs last week, and they were very spaced out (Tues, and Sun lol). I also haven't been counting until yesterday, but something is working. Keep the faith, Girl!
ETA: I also ate every one of my 500 calories on my DD, which I will continue to do.

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Linda, I only went down .4 after Sun's DD, yesterday. I was a little disheartened too. But today I was down 2.2! After a UD! I only had 2 DDs last week, and they were very spaced out (Tues, and Sun lol). I also haven't been counting until yesterday, but something is working. Keep the faith, Girl!
ETA: I also ate every one of my 500 calories on my DD, which I will continue to do.
Wow, that is wonderful for you!! How long have you been doing this WOE? How much are you eating on your UDs, would you say?

I'm just so today! I'm not stopping this WOE but darn it I want to see some results!!
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This is only my second week. I have to also add that I'm still 1 lb away from my lowest in Feb. I went up 2 lbs, down one for the first week of 5:2, up one, then down 2.2 today. So, I still haven't seen any new lows, but it's not been much time yet. I'm going to give it a month. I may do 3 DDs some weeks, if necessary.
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This is only my second week. I have to also add that I'm still 1 lb away from my lowest in Feb. I went up 2 lbs, down one for the first week of 5:2, up one, then down 2.2 today. So, I still haven't seen any new lows, but it's not been much time yet. I'm going to give it a month. I may do 3 DDs some weeks, if necessary.
We are in this about the same time so I will be curious to see how your results are this week.

How many calories did you decide on for your UDs?
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I so understand about the "evil scale"! I hate mine

Maybe it would be best to only step on it once a month? I get so depressed when it does not show a "nice amount".

I started 5/2 on March 1 and will step on that thing on this coming Friday, March 8. I am doing DD on Monday and Thursday!

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Good morning!

I had a good Dd yesterday, ending my 4th 5:2 week...I couldn't be happier. I am more relaxed now seeing that I can do the DD. I can see I'm eating lower fat but still eating low carb. I didn't intend to do 3 DD but it happened. I'm still going to stick with 2 DD/500 and 5 UP/2000. ETA: I will now weigh only once a month and don't think I'll count UD calories.

Todate....

Bringing my totals forward from the beginning 5:2 experiment thread...(2/5)
First 5:2 Week, down 1.8 lbs
2nd week, down 2.4 lbs
3rd week, 3rd week, down 1.2 lbs
today, 4th week, down 1 lb


wk 4
Totals - Calories Carbs Fat Protein Fiber

Tuesday ud 1,179 45 77 70 13
Wednesday ud 1,871 77 129 79 10
Thursday dd 377 9 12 57 16
Friday ud 1,334 64 103 48 6
Saturday dd 505 20 24 51 13
Sunday ud 1,728 43 135 83 14
Monday dd 445 10 14 69 7

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I so understand about the "evil scale"! I hate mine

Maybe it would be best to only step on it once a month? I get so depressed when it does not show a "nice amount".

I started 5/2 on March 1 and will step on that thing on this coming Friday, March 8. I am doing DD on Monday and Thursday!

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We are in this about the same time so I will be curious to see how your results are this week.

How many calories did you decide on for your UDs?
I decided on 1700 UDs. I went over yesterday, but felt very empty this morning as if I'd eaten nothing the day before lol. Originally I was going to do 1500, but I'm not there yet.

ETA: You're still on board, right?

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I finally made it back!! Long day yesterday.......long story!

As I read the posts from yesterday & today, my brain is fried with numbers!! SO.......I re-worked my JUDDD numbers for maintenance & here is what I got:
@ 60% maintenance(the highest # done on the calculator)
UD- 1560
DD- 936
That averages out to 1293 per day to maintain.

On Fast Diet: 5/2
UD-1600
DD-500
Gives me 1286 to maintain.

But, to do 2000/500 will have me gaining weight in a heartbeat!! I'll be 64 in May & age is NOT on my side! I don't know about TDEE; but, those calculators don't give me maintenance numbers.

Anyway, I'd rather do 5 days @1600 w/ 2 days 500. Although, 1560/936 doesn't sound too bad either! My DH is still on JUDDD & he is not too happy when I have an UD on his DD. But, I'm gonna keep doing 5:2 until it doesn't work for me. Then, I'll re-evaluate.
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I am not a mathmetician. My UD numbers now are just under 2000 and I got to thinking that last year when I'd begun losing, I kept my DDs at 500 instead of 400 or less like I've been doing.

I wish I was up to experimenting, but I'm just not. I need to lose. I'm sick of the last 8+ weeks bouncing between 4-5 lbs.

Beeb - I'm hoping my "comfortable" zone will be okay on 5:2 since I tend to not go overboard on my UDs. I'm so hoping this will be like Dawn said - it might be perfect for me and the pounds fly off me. Oh, how that would make me !!
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I think I might have to do three DDs because I keep going over my UD number. I want to eat like I did with ADF, but that won't work with 2 DDs.
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I'm trying to keep up with the readiing, but I could use a summary of who is actually happy with 5:2. Are you enjoying your UDs/RDs? Do you feel you can eat freely 5 days a week with only 2 DDs? I'm thoroughly enjoying JUDDDing with 3 fixed DDs and no counting on my 4 UDs, but if those of you in maintanence feel you can eat freely with 5 UDs I may be willing to join in April
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I'm thoroughly enjoying JUDDDing with 3 fixed DDs and no counting on my 4 UDs, but if those of you in maintanence feel you can eat freely with 5 UDs I may be willing to join in April
Wow Carly, weren't you worried about stopping counting? That's brilliant!
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I never counted UDs since early, early, on. You may be thinking of Dawn
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