5:2 Diet?

[Shari4]

Originally Posted by SlimNana

5:2 FastDiet on Nightline Controversial 'Fast Diet' Instructs 2 Days of Fasting

I saw this! I thought it was done with a positive spin.

Originally Posted by Librarygirl

I have found that to be true too, Shari. However, I still seem to eat too much the day following a DD. I'm trying to space my DD's out for that reason. I didn't plan too well this week, so I'm going to have to do a DD tomorrow before the week's over lol.

LCG, I'm on day 2 of my 3 day UD's. I'm liking this! I stayed right on target yesterday with my calories & I've been rewarded with a 1.6 pound loss this morning!!! Huh??! I got raspberry ketones for DH & I to start taking a week ago. I think somethings working!! Plus, I did a lot of walking yesterday. I don't know which is the cause of the weight loss; but, I'm claiming it!!

Originally Posted by Beeb

Been doing 5:2 since Monday Feb 18th (11 days). Have had 4 DDs and yesterday's DD was so darn easy it was amazing!! No snacking either which was REALLY a surprise!

Today I was rewarded with a .4 extra loss from the usual 2 pound bounce from the UDs but I wasn't paying too much attention to how much I was eating and how many high carb junk calories I was putting into my UDs. I started to count calories as of today on this first of 3 UDs to see if I can keep the bounce down and lose a little better after my next DD on Monday.

I'm really liking this WOE and the fact that my hunger is under control and my thoughts about food are healthier than they have been in months! I feel wonderful, too!!

Not a bad bounce!!! Way to go!! I feel like if I keep counting calories, things have to be good!! It was weird how peaceful I was with my eating yesterday! I'm just hoping tomorrow night, after 3 UD's, I feel the same way going into the next day as a DD. I'll keep you posted.

[TryingJudd]

Thanks everyone for the feedback. This can't possibly be any slower for me than JUDDD so worth a try. I will re-evaluate if the scale still isn't moving. I dread having to give up carbs again but that may be what it takes for me. Hopefully 5:2 will be the answer I have been looking for. I started today RD/ND - which acronym do you use for a non DD? - but haven't counted. I need to count because the point (for me) is to reign in the calorie count on non-DDs. I will start counting tomorrow and use Mon and Thur as my DDs. I am liking what I am seeing from all of you so far - great work!!

[SlimNana]

The more the merrier!

Until I figure out what defines a ND-normal day or RD-regular day for me, I'm using FD-fasting day & ED-eating day.

Best wishes!

Ann

[Beeb]

Originally Posted by Shari4

I saw this! I thought it was done with a positive spin.



LCG, I'm on day 2 of my 3 day UD's. I'm liking this! I stayed right on target yesterday with my calories & I've been rewarded with a 1.6 pound loss this morning!!! Huh??! I got raspberry ketones for DH & I to start taking a week ago. I think somethings working!! Plus, I did a lot of walking yesterday. I don't know which is the cause of the weight loss; but, I'm claiming it!!



Not a bad bounce!!! Way to go!! I feel like if I keep counting calories, things have to be good!! It was weird how peaceful I was with my eating yesterday! I'm just hoping tomorrow night, after 3 UD's, I feel the same way going into the next day as a DD. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks!! I'm happy so far, but counting now to move things along a little bit more. I love the loss you had after your UDs, it's very encouraging!! And YES...peaceful food thoughts, these are the BEST part of this WOE for me!

[Kissa]

Precisely Linda. Although I have happily never been a binger there is a lovely sense of peace about this that I never quite had when doing EOD.

[Beeb]

Originally Posted by TryingJudd

Thanks everyone for the feedback. This can't possibly be any slower for me than JUDDD so worth a try. I will re-evaluate if the scale still isn't moving. I dread having to give up carbs again but that may be what it takes for me. Hopefully 5:2 will be the answer I have been looking for. I started today RD/ND - which acronym do you use for a non DD? - but haven't counted. I need to count because the point (for me) is to reign in the calorie count on non-DDs. I will start counting tomorrow and use Mon and Thur as my DDs. I am liking what I am seeing from all of you so far - great work!!

I am using RD (regular day) and SD (small day) for my acronyms. I just like the way they sound, especially the SD because I know after this day I'll be smaller!! I, too have to count my RDs, and watch my carbs, but just the junk carbs I always gravitate to on my RDs. I still plan to eat the more complex carbs like pasta, rice and potatoes in moderation. Until I "know" how much I should be eating to keep the calories within reason on RDs I'll count. And I'm using Monday and Thursday also, but next week will be sifting it around a bit because of dinner out with friends on Thursday. It will be Monday/Friday SMs for me next week, but will go back to Monday/Thursday the following week because I just having Friday/Sat/Sun as RDs!

[Beeb]

Originally Posted by Kissa

Precisely Linda. Although I have happily never been a binger there is a lovely sense of peace about this that I never quite had when doing EOD.

Ditto, my wonderful JUDDD BUDDD! It's just amazes me that today my thoughts of food are only because I'm hungry, not because I "just want to eat something" even if I am not hungry because of fear of being hungry tomorrow!

What a change!

[Kissa]

[Shari4]

Cindy & Linda!!

[leonak]

Shari~~

I am sorry it has taken me so long to answer your question! It was about what numbers i was using - I still use JUDDD, which is 1528 UD and 535 DD ( at 35 %).

I also checked on line for other calories for me and all were very much like these, seems like I should eat 1500 a day! But I am older now and that must be the reason for the 1500. Wish it were more but

[Shari4]

Thanks, Leona! That's ok. I know how we get busy! I know I do!

[vanilla_latte]

Okay, with this thread and the other one in the Other Plans, it would be oh so much easier to do it here!

I'm still considering trying this. Most of you seem to have trouble with overdoing your UD's on JUDDD. I do not as most of you probably know. So, I'm still thinking maybe this would indeed be a better fit for me.

Ugh. I all of you for being so patient. I got encouragement on the other thread to give it a try. Guess it couldn't hurt for 2 weeks.

[KeirasMom]

'Nilla, I don't think it could do any harm to try it and see, and it just might be the answer you're looking for. I will keep my fingers crossed for you, whatever you decide.

[vanilla_latte]

Thanks, Dawn, I think I will give it a go. I'm going to use Monday as a DD and probably Thursday.

Thanks!

[tobelowcarber]

Vanilla- I am starting tomorrow and will be doing 4:3 first (4 UD, 3 DD) and then alternating it with 5:2 week. Good luck to both of us!

[Librarygirl]

Originally Posted by SlimNana

The more the merrier!

Until I figure out what defines a ND-normal day or RD-regular day for me, I'm using FD-fasting day & ED-eating day.

Best wishes!

Ann

I still say UD and DD. To me it's still JUDDD, just not eod.

[KeirasMom]

Originally Posted by Librarygirl

I still say UD and DD. To me it's still JUDDD, just not eod.

Me too.

[Librarygirl]

Dawn, if you continue to lose will you up your UD cals or DDs? Four lbs a month is about the most I've lost on anything lol (including JUDDD) and more than most months.

[KeirasMom]

I haven't been eating back my exercise calories, so I think I'd start there. If I continued to lose, I'd probably add more on my UDs in 100 calorie increments or so until I stabilized.

I wouldn't be heartbroken if I lost another 10 pounds, so I'm not too worried about it at this point. I honestly didn't expect to lose anything with 5:2 and was more worried about gaining, so this is a pleasant surprise.

[Librarygirl]

Well, if you aren't trying to lose, it certainly couldn't hurt those of us who are! Such a wonderful side effect to continue to lose without even trying!

[leonak]

Originally Posted by vanilla_latte

Okay, with this thread and the other one in the Other Plans, it would be oh so much easier to do it here!

I'm still considering trying this. Most of you seem to have trouble with overdoing your UD's on JUDDD. I do not as most of you probably know. So, I'm still thinking maybe this would indeed be a better fit for me.

Ugh. I all of you for being so patient. I got encouragement on the other thread to give it a try. Guess it couldn't hurt for 2 weeks.

I too would like to read and post right here on JUDDD! Could someone start like a weekly or even a daily 5/2 thread?

Dawn - you are one amazing gal, both on JUDDD and now on 5/2

[Librarygirl]

I feel the same. Would love to just post our 5:2 plans, etc. right here.

[leonak]

Originally Posted by Librarygirl

I feel the same. Would love to just post our 5:2 plans, etc. right here.

Good, good! Will we be doing a "no-no" if we do? i sure do not want to get kicked out of here!

[Carly]

I'm following with great interest. I'm doing DD on M,W,F about 300 calories and eating till satisfaction with no counting on my 4 UDs. I lost a pound this month anyway and wasn't trying, but like Dawn I would not be heart broken if I lost another 7 to 10, but I'm not trying at this point.

I'm so worried that I will gain on 5:2. I know it couldn't hurt to try for 2 weeks, but I think I will wait till after my April vacation to Florida where I will be at the beach for 5 days.

[Shari4]

I've been reading Fast Diet by Dr. Mosley today. A very interesting read, too! I don't want to throw a wrench in everything..........but, he says to not count your regular days!! Only count the fast days; because it's the fasting days that do the changes in our bodies as well as helping us to lose weight if we need to. He thinks we don't need the pressure of counting every calorie we eat on regular days. Also, when we reach goal or just a bit under it, we can go to only 1 fasting day a week. Wow! I'm not sure I'm ready to stop counting my UD's. I'm with Dawn & Carly......if a lose another 10 pounds or so, it wouldn't bother me a bit? Plus, Dr. Mosley doesn't know me........I can eat a bajillion calories before I begin to feel full! Not often like I used to(tho I haven't done it in a while).

Any one else reading his book have anything to comment on? I would love to hear what you all think?

[Kissa]

I know he says that ... But we each have to choose our own path. I seldom count but I am happily maintaining and accept the bounces with no problems. Someone like a Dawn will always be happier counting and no one can fault her results.

I always take the best from any book and then make my own choices. If it ain't broke, don't fix.

And if we understood how to eat normally we'd none of have ever heard of Mosely.

[mojocat]

So I'm confused . I thought that JUDDD eventually causes the SIRT1 gene to kick in which brings a sense of calm, easier rotations, less hunger and so on. It seems here that for some of vets eventually JUDDD stalls, stops working, people have trouble with hunger and are switching to 5:2. This is supposed to get easier not harder. Why would this be happening if the gene has kicked in? Are the effects of this gene overrated, exaggerated or is it merely short-lived?

[Kissa]

We humans are strange beasts, and we are all different. Would that there was one simple easy path that worked for the whole world, but I don't think I'll live to see that day. I also think the SIRT1 gene is very real and very effective.

Don't be disheartened reading here. I have been very, very happy JUDDDing for almost 18 months but having only 2 DDs in seven does make me view my UDs in a more relaxed way.

I am a great believer in JUDDD peace and I had it. I just have little more now.

[KeirasMom]

Originally Posted by Shari4

I've been reading Fast Diet by Dr. Mosley today. A very interesting read, too! I don't want to throw a wrench in everything..........but, he says to not count your regular days!! Only count the fast days; because it's the fasting days that do the changes in our bodies as well as helping us to lose weight if we need to. He thinks we don't need the pressure of counting every calorie we eat on regular days. Also, when we reach goal or just a bit under it, we can go to only 1 fasting day a week. Wow! I'm not sure I'm ready to stop counting my UD's. I'm with Dawn & Carly......if a lose another 10 pounds or so, it wouldn't bother me a bit? Plus, Dr. Mosley doesn't know me........I can eat a bajillion calories before I begin to feel full! Not often like I used to(tho I haven't done it in a while).

Any one else reading his book have anything to comment on? I would love to hear what you all think?

I downloaded the book but haven't read it yet. I have to count. It's a compulsion, though I'm trying to be a little more relaxed about it. Maybe once I have a couple of months under my belt and have a bit more faith that I won't gain, I can be a bit looser. I will say, I didn't count at Disneyland a couple of weeks ago but I'm sure I averaged around 3000 calories per day for 3 days straight. I had a pretty big bounce when I got home, but it was gone in just a couple of DDs. That's pretty good evidence that eating "normally" even a little more than a controlled UD, probably won't throw a wrench into the works.

Originally Posted by Kissa

I know he says that ... But we each have to choose our own path. I seldom count but I am happily maintaining and accept the bounces with no problems. Someone like a Dawn will always be happier counting and no one can fault her results.

I always take the best from any book and then make my own choices. If it ain't broke, don't fix.

And if we understood how to eat normally we'd none of have ever heard of Mosely.

Exactly this.

Originally Posted by mojocat

So I'm confused . I thought that JUDDD eventually causes the SIRT1 gene to kick in which brings a sense of calm, easier rotations, less hunger and so on. It seems here that for some of vets eventually JUDDD stalls, stops working, people have trouble with hunger and are switching to 5:2. This is supposed to get easier not harder. Why would this be happening if the gene has kicked in? Are the effects of this gene overrated, exaggerated or is it merely short-lived?

JUDDD is amazing and the SIRT1 gene has done amazing things in my body. DDs were and continue to be pretty easy, almost all the time. I, personally, went through a couple of periods of diet fatigue in my journey, where I took maintenance breaks to help rejuvenate. I don't think this had as much to do with JUDDD as it did with just my own body trying to adjust to all the work it had to do over more than a year of very strict dieting. JUDDD never "stalled" for me, but there were periods where my loss slowed down, usually after about 25 pounds lost, or when I was dealing with unrelated medical issues. When I followed JUDDD to a tee and didn't muck with it, it worked just great. Now that I'm in maintenance, I'm choosing to explore other options, and I think it's a great testament to JUDDD that I'm trying 5:2, which I call JUDDD light, since it's still JUDDD just with fewer DDs. If I wasn't such a believer in JUDDD, I would have gone to every day maintenance calories. I love that I have the option of 5:2, or if I feel like it, I can go back to EOD JUDDD, but with higher DDs, or I can keep my DDs low EOD and have wild UDs. It feels like, within the JUDDD framework or at least within the IF framework, there are so many options available to us. I'm probably rambling, so I'll leave it there.

[Skinjob]

Originally Posted by Kissa

Precisely Linda. Although I have happily never been a binger there is a lovely sense of peace about this that I never quite had when doing EOD.

This is exactly what I have been experirncing since beginning 5:2. I am doing Mondays and Thursdays but we had a social outing this Thurs so I moved my DD to today - a day I knew I'd be home alone. So it's extrely freeing and flexible that way!! No losses yet but I'm sticking it out. And I find I definitely feel less of an urge to overeat on my regular days now. In fact, I'm even better at sticking to my calorie limit (1725) on them! So far so good!