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Old 02-08-2013, 07:49 PM   #31
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I have sweet potatoes but do not eat them when I am doing the potato hack.
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I thought I interpreted some of the info from the other threads as being able to use sweet potatoes. Am I wrong, or have you just chosen to not use sweet potatoes?
I have done PDDs but not a hack yet. I think having some sweet potatoes would break it up but I have enough ways to fix potatoes without fat that I think I'd be ok if I couldn't use sweet potatoes.
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i eat sweet potatoes during my hack, and totally agree about the potato broth bake. awesomesauce.
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If I don't need to hack yet (i.e. shake things up), and the hot potatoes gave me that wicked bad reaction (and I totally get that cold ones could be entirely different)... I don't really *need* to try this again hoping for a different reaction, right? I really felt soooooo awful, I'm totally put off, ya know?

I was in a good groove before this, just wanted to try it, but I'm ok with a fail this time, and if I try it again in the future, I'd prepare better and have cold baked/boiled potatoes around.
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Apologies for the double post - not sure what happened & it won't let me edit so I can't delete it. I'm not the savviest when it comes to the internet.
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ha Yennie! Tx!

Sorren--you may have your "hot potato" reaction once or twice and then settle into a whole different thang, even with hot potatoes--don't be afraid to experiment--some folks who had that reaction and swore they could never do a tater hack ended up having great experiences--ymmv--
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ha Yennie! Tx!

Sorren--you may have your "hot potato" reaction once or twice and then settle into a whole different thang, even with hot potatoes--don't be afraid to experiment--some folks who had that reaction and swore they could never do a tater hack ended up having great experiences--ymmv--
I agree. Nancy is one who can eat them now , but had a similar reaction. She may be by to give her wisdom.
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I thought I interpreted some of the info from the other threads as being able to use sweet potatoes. Am I wrong, or have you just chosen to not use sweet potatoes?
I have done PDDs but not a hack yet. I think having some sweet potatoes would break it up but I have enough ways to fix potatoes without fat that I think I'd be ok if I couldn't use sweet potatoes.
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Based on some of the reading I did on ***, I decided that I would not try the sweet potato since it so different iin compositiion from the typical white potato or gold. I love sweet potatoes but that was just a personal choice not to use them on my potato days.

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I actually do sweets.

I only allow one per day. I wouldn't add them for every meal on day to day basis, but I would add yukon or reds.
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If I don't need to hack yet (i.e. shake things up), and the hot potatoes gave me that wicked bad reaction (and I totally get that cold ones could be entirely different)... I don't really *need* to try this again hoping for a different reaction, right? I really felt soooooo awful, I'm totally put off, ya know?

I was in a good groove before this, just wanted to try it, but I'm ok with a fail this time, and if I try it again in the future, I'd prepare better and have cold baked/boiled potatoes around.
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I agree ... I did a 3 day and had a similar reaction, but stuck it through because I had committed and by the third day I was feeling much better, but by then I was dying to eat something else. It actually set in motion a deprived feeling in me that I found detrimental, but not everyone feels this way, clearly... many seem to the potatoes. So I say, for whoever feels good on the hack and finds it satisfying and it works, then but if you don't feel good or enjoy it ... there's other ways to lose.

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I agree ... I did a 3 day and had a similar reaction, but stuck it through because I had committed and by the third day I was feeling much better, but by then I was dying to eat something else. It actually set in motion a deprived feeling in me that I found detrimental, but not everyone feels this way, clearly... many seem to the potatoes. So I say, for whoever feels good on the hack and finds it satisfying and it works, then but if you don't feel good or enjoy it ... there's other ways to lose.
I went through this also and had to do modified potato days for awhile before I could do all potatoes all day. I actually still can't do potatoes all day. I did eggs and coffee with HWC for breakfast and then potatoes. I now can do oat bran for breakfast and then potatoes all day but if I start the day with potatoes I cannot eat enough potatoes to stisfy my hunger. Wierd ways different individuals react to poatatoes I guess.
I did a much higher calorie DD yesterday with just potatoes and I skipped breakgfast because I did not have time for it. I was down on the scale this morning so I am doing an UD potato day today to see how it goes. potaotes all cooked and in the frig.
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Sorren--you may have your "hot potato" reaction once or twice and then settle into a whole different thang, even with hot potatoes--don't be afraid to experiment--some folks who had that reaction and swore they could never do a tater hack ended up having great experiences--ymmv--
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I think I just had a blood sugar crash???

I got sort of hot, and then weak and wobbly... And HUNGRY!

I had the other half baked potato, then like a huge amt of salsa from the jar.... Then just about anything carby I could jam in my face.

Oof.

I feel better now, but not a good way to end a dd that started so well.

Live and learn. No more potato only days for me!

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I really felt soooooo awful, I'm totally put off, ya know?
Yep, the same thing happened to me!!! Felt really bad and totally put off. I have diabetes and maybe shouldn't have tried it, but I just had to since so many people were raving about it! :facepalm: I took that crash as a warning that this was not for me...but I'm still fascinated!

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These crashes happen when people first start the tater hack.
These people...are they around here? Or over at ***?
(I stopped keeping up with the JUDDD potato hack thread a while ago.)


I'm curious whether more diabetics have tried it.
Or whether I might do okay on it now that I'm not eating wheat...my blood sugar's been much more stable lately.
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Yep, the same thing happened to me!!! Felt really bad and totally put off. I have diabetes and maybe shouldn't have tried it, but I just had to since so many people were raving about it! :facepalm: I took that crash as a warning that this was not for me...but I'm still fascinated!



These people...are they around here? Or over at ***?
(I stopped keeping up with the JUDDD potato hack thread a while ago.)


I'm curious whether more diabetics have tried it.
Or whether I might do okay on it now that I'm not eating wheat...my blood sugar's been much more stable lately.
Jen, Read the blurb about resistent starch from the dude named "Tatertot". I will go and locate. I really think it may help everyone who has had the hard crash.
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Where's Tater Tot?...on ***?

I bought a bunch of resistant (corn) starch from Netrition a couple years ago, but just haven't figured out how to incorporate it into my diet!
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One thing that Dr. J suggest to those with bs spikes, is to have a small amount of protein with taters. Just wondering if anyone who has crashed could try this? I believe Nancy speaks about trying this.

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Health properties of resistant starch - Nugent - 2005 - Nutrition Bulletin - Wiley Online Library

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Physiological effects of resistant starch

A number of physiological effects have been ascribed to RS and are listed in Table 4 and will be described below. RS, by escaping digestion in the small intestine, has few interactions with other components of the upper gastrointestinal tract. It is fermented in the large intestine resulting in the production of such fermentation products as carbon dioxide, methane, hydrogen, organic acids (e.g. lactic acid) and SCFA. However, RS is believed to result in only a modest production of these gases compared with other non-digestible oligosaccharides, fructo-oligosaccharides and lactulose (Christl et al. 1992). SCFA produced include butyrate, acetate and propionate, and it is thought that these SCFA in particular mediate the effects of RS, rather than RS exerting a physical bulking effect (Topping et al. 2003). SCFA will be discussed briefly below; other mechanisms by which RS may influence physiological behaviour will be discussed later in this review.


Table 4. Physiological effects of resistant starch

Potential physiological effects --- Conditions where there may be a protective effect
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Improve glycaemic and insulinaemic responses
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Like other fibers, resistant starches make their way to the large intestine where they act as prebiotic fibers and serve as food for microbes. Intestinal bacteria ferment resistant starches, producing beneficial short-chain fatty acids (SCFAs) and improving the environment for healthful bacteria to thrive, explains Christine Pelkman, PhD, a senior scientist at Ingredion Incorporated, which produces the Hi-maize resistant cornstarch product.

“Because resistant starch is slowly fermented, it’s more tolerable at much higher doses and with less gas production than other fibers,” Pelkman says. These helpful bacteria have many functions, including producing vitamins, detoxifying potential carcinogens, and activating health-promoting compounds.

Foods containing resistant starches also may aid in weight control because they’re less calorically dense. As resistant starches are fermented in the colon with the production of SCFAs and gases, some of the calories are lost.

Insulin sensitivity and glucose control: Resistant starch escapes digestion in the small intestine, so it doesn’t contribute to blood glucose levels. Studies also suggest that resistant starch can reduce insulin resistance.
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Where's Tater Tot?...on ***?

I bought a bunch of resistant (corn) starch from Netrition a couple years ago, but just haven't figured out how to incorporate it into my diet!
Oh, Bev, has a great post here about the Hi-Maize RS.

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Yes, Tatertot, is a celebrity over at ***, he seems to be pretty up on all things tater.
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Mark's Daily Apple. A Paleo/Primal forum.

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Keytones found this link and it explains a bit more about "potato only" hacks. She adds greens with success and specifically does winter squash only days. Very interesting.

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People naturally love the flavors found in starches, vegetables, and fruits because we are anatomically and physiologically designed to consume and enjoy these foods. Remember, the taste buds on the tip of your tongue respond to carbohydrates (sweet) which are found almost exclusively in plant foods (the exceptions are milk and honey).

A landmark experiment was carried out in 1925 on two healthy adults, a man 25 years old and a woman 28 years old.2 For 6 months these two people lived on a diet primarily of white potatoes. (A few additional items providing insignificant nutrients were added: a few fruits, coffee, and tea. Because they were losing too much weight, pure fat—containing no other nutrients—was also added.)

Could a diet of potatoes meet their nutritional needs? Even though they were both physically active (especially the man) they were described as, “…in good health on a diet in which the nitrogen (protein) was practically solely derived from the potato.”

Did they like this diet? The report stated, “They did not tire of the uniform potato diet and there was no craving for change.”

Starchy vegetables, like potatoes, are very appetite-satisfying. In an enlightening experiment, 38 separate foods were fed to subjects and a rating of their level of satisfaction (a satiety index) was determined every 15 minutes for 2 hours after the meals.3 The highest satisfaction level was produced by boiled white potatoes, and it was seven times higher than the lowest index for croissants. Potatoes were almost 5 times more satisfying than a Mars candy bar and twice as satisfying as beef or cheese. Starchy vegetables satisfy the hunger drive—fatty foods leave you craving.

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if one wanted to try 3 days of potatoes only, how does one come off it? go right to an UD? or what is recommended?
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when I have come off the hack, I have eaten protein and fat, for instance, an egg and some salmon for brunch, a green smoothie for afternoon snack and then potatoes with some protein for dinner. Worked for me!
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I'm doing a potato soup for dinner. Seems like that would be a good way to have potatoes without fat too. I'm sure lots of people do that on the hack. Fat free milk, broth, onions and celery and you've got a great soup! I am going to try add fat-free milk powder as well to thicken.
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I'm doing a potato soup for dinner. Seems like that would be a good way to have potatoes without fat too. I'm sure lots of people do that on the hack. Fat free milk, broth, onions and celery and you've got a great soup! I am going to try add fat-free milk powder as well to thicken.
I do the same and make mine w/ bone broth. It is like heaven! I never in a million gazillion years thought I would be loving taters again.
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