I'm NOT losing anything!

tay65 · 01-22-2013, 03:00 PM

Ok, This is the 4th DD I have had and I haven't lost an ounce! I'm sticking to my calories that the calculator gave me. Could they be too high?
Any suggestions???

Librarygirl · 01-22-2013, 03:05 PM

Tay, how many days have you been JUDDDing? Have you not lose anything at all, or have gained back some? Bouncing is common with JUDDD and if you did bounce up, expect to bounce back down. Other than that, are you counting your up days? Did you figure your calories for the least active/sedentary? Lots of questions, lol.

Rayne_W · 01-22-2013, 03:09 PM

If it's any consolation, there are a few of us who have been JUDDDing a bit longer and are stuck in a weightloss lull at the moment. I've lost a whopping single pound in 3 weeks.

Librarygirl · 01-22-2013, 03:27 PM

I went the entire month of Dec. only losing one lb, but the average now is 10.8 lbs over 9 weeks...it DOES average out, even if it seems like you aren't losing at any given time.

tay65 · 01-22-2013, 04:59 PM

This is my 3rd DD, and I've stayed the same. No bounce whatsoever! The other time I did JUDDD I lost after the 1st UD!
I use the numbers the calculator gave me for sedentary. I count UD's and DD's.

Rayne_W · 01-22-2013, 05:07 PM

It's only a theory, mind you, but I swear all the lulls/stalls are due to the current moon phase...or sun spots.

I had a really low DD yesterday, and the scale didn't budge an inch today. It's nonsensical.

Librarygirl · 01-22-2013, 05:10 PM

I went up a lb after DD yesterday. However, I did not go up after the UD before...it balances out. Tay, since you have only been JUDDDing a week, give it at least another week before you panic. Maybe some other JB's have some suggestions too.

Beeb · 01-22-2013, 05:50 PM

How about giving us your numbers for DD/UD. Also, if you don't mind your age/height and if you exercise or not.

We may be able to figure out if there is an issue with too many or too few calories.

tay65 · 01-22-2013, 07:35 PM

My UD calories are 1975 and DD's I'm eating 500. I'll be 48 Friday and I'm 5'6" (66").
I've been changing up foods I eat everyday and I limit carbs, not eating any potatoes, some noodles in my soup, no sugar....
This is really boggling my mind. I'm not freaking out or anything. No way near throwing in the towel. I just want to get this figured out and move on to lose this weight.

Rayne_W · 01-22-2013, 07:39 PM

Took a bit of tweaking to figure out the input weight, but the DD cals it showed for an UD of 1975 was 395.

tay65 · 01-22-2013, 07:50 PM

But the first 2 weeks they say do 500 on DD's

Alison · 01-22-2013, 08:41 PM

You know, I was having issues when I started too. I had the "bounce" but no real drops until this past Sunday, I believe.

I was also going from super low cals to a strict rotation of UD/DD. I also found out that I won't drop if I get near the 1800 cal mark, so I try and stay at around 1500-1600 on my UD.

I guess my suggestion is to keep DD at 500 or less and drop your UD a little to see if that works for you.

And drink a lot of liquids! Tea, water, coffee, etc... but soda tends to bloat.

tay65 · 01-23-2013, 06:25 AM

I dropped .1 today! Oh, joy, joy! I'm being sarcastic.
I'm going to drop the UD calories for sure now. I'll go to 1700 and see what happens.
I also just got done doing a super low calorie diet. Maybe thats the issue happening with me too.

sterlinggirl · 01-23-2013, 06:27 AM

LoCarbGal · 01-23-2013, 07:02 AM

Tammy, if you just came off low cal diet, then it makes sense that you wouldn't see the normal, dramatic drop that many of us saw coming off low carb, or just uncontrolled eating. Or maybe you've added back some carbs and you're losing fat but retaining a bit of water.

I've had periods where I'm doing EVERYTHING right, and don't lose for a week or two. I'm just (hopefully) coming out of a full week of ups and downs and just back to my prior low from over a week ago. It ain't easy, but you just have to trust JUDDD to get things moving when they're supposed to. Stay the course! You will do it!

tay65 · 01-23-2013, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoCarbGal

Tammy, if you just came off low cal diet, then it makes sense that you wouldn't see the normal, dramatic drop that many of us saw coming off low carb, or just uncontrolled eating. Or maybe you've added back some carbs and you're losing fat but retaining a bit of water.

I've had periods where I'm doing EVERYTHING right, and don't lose for a week or two. I'm just (hopefully) coming out of a full week of ups and downs and just back to my prior low from over a week ago. It ain't easy, but you just have to trust JUDDD to get things moving when they're supposed to. Stay the course! You will do it!

I could be retaining a little water, but I drink so much water I can't imagine I'm retaining much.
Thanks for that great post!

Kissa · 01-23-2013, 10:01 AM

You are right, he says to do the 500 for the first 2 weeks, but if you have been eating very low calories for some time you may find that you can handle lower DDs now.

Personally, I don't recommend dropping your UD calories yet, we want the Sirt1 to kick in and it is the the gap between the DD and UD calories that triggers that.

You may indeed find in time that you can drop the UD calories but just now I would favour dropping the DD calories. But my first recommendation would be to just keep on keeping on.

Our slow losers reach goal and below just as well as the fast losers. Only a little more slowly.

This is not a race and you will do fine.

tay65 · 01-23-2013, 11:05 AM

I thought of dropping lower on DD's. I want the SIRT1 to kick in. I just get hungry on DD's though.

Kissa · 01-23-2013, 11:57 AM

One of the reasons to eat up to your calories on the UD is to help you through the DDs. I think you should just finish your first 2 weeks at 500 cal DDs or a bit less if you feel you are able to.

I know how we all want to see the pounds melt away, but even though you have lost more quickly before, you may have to face that this time it is going to take a little longer for the JUDDD magic. Darn it.

tay65 · 01-23-2013, 12:19 PM

I know, but amazingly, I'm not panicing nor do I feel like giving up. This is def a HUGE change for me. I'm eating a little more fat on UD's and it helps on DD's.

Kissa · 01-23-2013, 12:20 PM

Brilliant.x

tay65 · 01-23-2013, 12:22 PM

Thanks Cindy! I appreciate having help with this. I need support!

hot-in-texas · 01-23-2013, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tay65

I know, but amazingly, I'm not panicing nor do I feel like giving up. This is def a HUGE change for me. I'm eating a little more fat on UD's and it helps on DD's.

For the first few days, I was counting my UDs andd DD calories wrong. Giving what I ate too little calories, or rounding down

Then I realized, no, you really do have to count each and every calorie. That is probably not your issue though as it sound like you have been counting calories for awhile now..

tay65 · 01-23-2013, 01:00 PM

I started counting calories for the very first time when I was 13 yrs old! I had to lose 15 lbs and my parents helped me do it right. It took 3 months.
So even when I'm not "dieting", I count. Its a habit now and probably always will be! I know calorie counts of everything I eat. LOL

Alison · 01-23-2013, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tay65

I dropped .1 today! Oh, joy, joy! I'm being sarcastic.
I'm going to drop the UD calories for sure now. I'll go to 1700 and see what happens.
I also just got done doing a super low calorie diet. Maybe thats the issue happening with me too.

I've been JUDDDing since 1/11/13 and just now starting to see the weight drop, but it's happening!!

Luv2Eat · 01-23-2013, 03:22 PM

Alison!

Beeb · 01-23-2013, 04:56 PM

I think your UD/DD calories that you are following are fine. I would keep everything and differently eat right up to those UD calories. It's the "gap" between UD and DD calories that helps JUDDD to create it's magic! I think your "gap" is fine. Coming off of low cal may be the issue right now so give it a bit more time. 2 more weeks and see what happens, that's my suggestion!

grammyw/kitties · 01-24-2013, 01:33 AM

The book talks like some people don't start to lose for a couple months, thats me..I know I feel good in this woe..patience it will come I have faith!

krow134 · 01-24-2013, 03:45 AM

my suggestion is to keep doing what your doing. it takes some time for the woe to kick in and the gene to start working. at some point you will start losing inches that you will slowly start to notice. one thing with JUDDD is for the average person it's a slow process. most people here will tell you to give it a full month. hang in there!

adillenal · 01-24-2013, 03:51 AM

Patience is all I can say.

I did not lose my first two weeks of JUDDD and look at me now. If I had used the first two weeks as an indicator of weight loss I would have jumped ship and tried something else. I have had whole months that I lost NOTHING.

But I am almost 5 pounds below my original goal weight today.

If you are looking for FAST weight loss, I can recommend LC low fat because that works for me but I am not willing to restrict that much everyday.

01-22-2013, 03:00 PM	#1
tay65 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2010 Location: comfy couch Posts: 2,862 Gallery: tay65 WOE: eating my way Start Date: every day	I'm NOT losing anything! Ok, This is the 4th DD I have had and I haven't lost an ounce! I'm sticking to my calories that the calculator gave me. Could they be too high? Any suggestions???

01-23-2013, 07:02 AM	#15
LoCarbGal Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2,862 Gallery: LoCarbGal Stats: 318.5/207.5/140 5'4" 46 yrs WOE: Atkins 1/27/12 - 54.5 lbs: JUDDD 9/4/12 - 56.5 lbs	Tammy, if you just came off low cal diet, then it makes sense that you wouldn't see the normal, dramatic drop that many of us saw coming off low carb, or just uncontrolled eating. Or maybe you've added back some carbs and you're losing fat but retaining a bit of water. I've had periods where I'm doing EVERYTHING right, and don't lose for a week or two. I'm just (hopefully) coming out of a full week of ups and downs and just back to my prior low from over a week ago. It ain't easy, but you just have to trust JUDDD to get things moving when they're supposed to. Stay the course! You will do it! __________________ ~~~LCG~~~

01-23-2013, 10:01 AM	#17
Kissa Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 16,464 Gallery: Kissa Stats: 184/124/126 5'3" Age 65 WOE: JUDDD/5:2 Start Date: 2001 Atkins -50 2011 JUDDD - 10	You are right, he says to do the 500 for the first 2 weeks, but if you have been eating very low calories for some time you may find that you can handle lower DDs now. Personally, I don't recommend dropping your UD calories yet, we want the Sirt1 to kick in and it is the the gap between the DD and UD calories that triggers that. You may indeed find in time that you can drop the UD calories but just now I would favour dropping the DD calories. But my first recommendation would be to just keep on keeping on. Our slow losers reach goal and below just as well as the fast losers. Only a little more slowly. This is not a race and you will do fine. __________________ Cindy Relax, rotate, reduce, rejoice. Allies Exercising Around the World - March - 2013

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01-22-2013, 03:05 PM	#2
Librarygirl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,764 Gallery: Librarygirl Stats: HW 207/(JUDDD) 198/CW 180/GW 130 5'4 49 yo WOE: JUDDD Start Date: Low calorie 6/12 ; Low carb 9/12/ ; JUDDD 11/13/12	Tay, how many days have you been JUDDDing? Have you not lose anything at all, or have gained back some? Bouncing is common with JUDDD and if you did bounce up, expect to bounce back down. Other than that, are you counting your up days? Did you figure your calories for the least active/sedentary? Lots of questions, lol.

01-22-2013, 03:09 PM	#3
Rayne_W Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Western WA>>Eastern Indiana Posts: 805 Gallery: Rayne_W Stats: 255/229.4/140 5'6" (12.5" lost) WOE: JUDDD Start Date: 10-2-12 (LC) 11-18-12 (JUDDD)	If it's any consolation, there are a few of us who have been JUDDDing a bit longer and are stuck in a weightloss lull at the moment. I've lost a whopping single pound in 3 weeks.

01-22-2013, 03:27 PM	#4
Librarygirl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,764 Gallery: Librarygirl Stats: HW 207/(JUDDD) 198/CW 180/GW 130 5'4 49 yo WOE: JUDDD Start Date: Low calorie 6/12 ; Low carb 9/12/ ; JUDDD 11/13/12	I went the entire month of Dec. only losing one lb, but the average now is 10.8 lbs over 9 weeks...it DOES average out, even if it seems like you aren't losing at any given time.

01-22-2013, 04:59 PM	#5
tay65 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2010 Location: comfy couch Posts: 2,862 Gallery: tay65 WOE: eating my way Start Date: every day	This is my 3rd DD, and I've stayed the same. No bounce whatsoever! The other time I did JUDDD I lost after the 1st UD! I use the numbers the calculator gave me for sedentary. I count UD's and DD's.

01-22-2013, 05:07 PM	#6
Rayne_W Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Western WA>>Eastern Indiana Posts: 805 Gallery: Rayne_W Stats: 255/229.4/140 5'6" (12.5" lost) WOE: JUDDD Start Date: 10-2-12 (LC) 11-18-12 (JUDDD)	It's only a theory, mind you, but I swear all the lulls/stalls are due to the current moon phase...or sun spots. I had a really low DD yesterday, and the scale didn't budge an inch today. It's nonsensical.

01-22-2013, 05:10 PM	#7
Librarygirl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,764 Gallery: Librarygirl Stats: HW 207/(JUDDD) 198/CW 180/GW 130 5'4 49 yo WOE: JUDDD Start Date: Low calorie 6/12 ; Low carb 9/12/ ; JUDDD 11/13/12	I went up a lb after DD yesterday. However, I did not go up after the UD before...it balances out. Tay, since you have only been JUDDDing a week, give it at least another week before you panic. Maybe some other JB's have some suggestions too.

01-22-2013, 05:50 PM	#8
Beeb Why wait, just do it NOW! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where Super Storm Sandy Wiped Out All My Childhood Memories!! Posts: 11,758 Gallery: Beeb Stats: 152 WOE: Thintuition - Intuitive Eating	How about giving us your numbers for DD/UD. Also, if you don't mind your age/height and if you exercise or not. We may be able to figure out if there is an issue with too many or too few calories.

01-22-2013, 07:35 PM	#9
tay65 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2010 Location: comfy couch Posts: 2,862 Gallery: tay65 WOE: eating my way Start Date: every day	My UD calories are 1975 and DD's I'm eating 500. I'll be 48 Friday and I'm 5'6" (66"). I've been changing up foods I eat everyday and I limit carbs, not eating any potatoes, some noodles in my soup, no sugar.... This is really boggling my mind. I'm not freaking out or anything. No way near throwing in the towel. I just want to get this figured out and move on to lose this weight.

01-22-2013, 07:39 PM	#10
Rayne_W Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Western WA>>Eastern Indiana Posts: 805 Gallery: Rayne_W Stats: 255/229.4/140 5'6" (12.5" lost) WOE: JUDDD Start Date: 10-2-12 (LC) 11-18-12 (JUDDD)	Took a bit of tweaking to figure out the input weight, but the DD cals it showed for an UD of 1975 was 395.

01-22-2013, 07:50 PM	#11
tay65 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2010 Location: comfy couch Posts: 2,862 Gallery: tay65 WOE: eating my way Start Date: every day	But the first 2 weeks they say do 500 on DD's

01-23-2013, 06:27 AM	#14
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01-22-2013, 08:41 PM	#12
Alison Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Constantly between NY and Boston. NY currently. Posts: 108 Gallery: Alison Stats: -169.5-/-157.5-/-98- WOE: JUDDD Start Date: 01/11/2013	You know, I was having issues when I started too. I had the "bounce" but no real drops until this past Sunday, I believe. I was also going from super low cals to a strict rotation of UD/DD. I also found out that I won't drop if I get near the 1800 cal mark, so I try and stay at around 1500-1600 on my UD. I guess my suggestion is to keep DD at 500 or less and drop your UD a little to see if that works for you. And drink a lot of liquids! Tea, water, coffee, etc... but soda tends to bloat.

01-23-2013, 06:25 AM	#13
tay65 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2010 Location: comfy couch Posts: 2,862 Gallery: tay65 WOE: eating my way Start Date: every day	I dropped .1 today! Oh, joy, joy! I'm being sarcastic. I'm going to drop the UD calories for sure now. I'll go to 1700 and see what happens. I also just got done doing a super low calorie diet. Maybe thats the issue happening with me too.

01-23-2013, 11:05 AM	#18
tay65 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2010 Location: comfy couch Posts: 2,862 Gallery: tay65 WOE: eating my way Start Date: every day	I thought of dropping lower on DD's. I want the SIRT1 to kick in. I just get hungry on DD's though.

01-23-2013, 11:57 AM	#19
Kissa Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 16,464 Gallery: Kissa Stats: 184/124/126 5'3" Age 65 WOE: JUDDD/5:2 Start Date: 2001 Atkins -50 2011 JUDDD - 10	One of the reasons to eat up to your calories on the UD is to help you through the DDs. I think you should just finish your first 2 weeks at 500 cal DDs or a bit less if you feel you are able to. I know how we all want to see the pounds melt away, but even though you have lost more quickly before, you may have to face that this time it is going to take a little longer for the JUDDD magic. Darn it.

01-23-2013, 12:19 PM	#20
tay65 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2010 Location: comfy couch Posts: 2,862 Gallery: tay65 WOE: eating my way Start Date: every day	I know, but amazingly, I'm not panicing nor do I feel like giving up. This is def a HUGE change for me. I'm eating a little more fat on UD's and it helps on DD's.

01-23-2013, 12:20 PM	#21
Kissa Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 16,464 Gallery: Kissa Stats: 184/124/126 5'3" Age 65 WOE: JUDDD/5:2 Start Date: 2001 Atkins -50 2011 JUDDD - 10	Brilliant.x

01-23-2013, 12:22 PM	#22
tay65 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2010 Location: comfy couch Posts: 2,862 Gallery: tay65 WOE: eating my way Start Date: every day	Thanks Cindy! I appreciate having help with this. I need support!

01-23-2013, 01:00 PM	#24
tay65 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2010 Location: comfy couch Posts: 2,862 Gallery: tay65 WOE: eating my way Start Date: every day	I started counting calories for the very first time when I was 13 yrs old! I had to lose 15 lbs and my parents helped me do it right. It took 3 months. So even when I'm not "dieting", I count. Its a habit now and probably always will be! I know calorie counts of everything I eat. LOL

01-23-2013, 03:22 PM	#26
Luv2Eat Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 627 Gallery: Luv2Eat WOE: JUDDD dd 200 ud 1200 Start Date: Aug 2012	Alison!

01-23-2013, 04:56 PM	#27
Beeb Why wait, just do it NOW! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where Super Storm Sandy Wiped Out All My Childhood Memories!! Posts: 11,758 Gallery: Beeb Stats: 152 WOE: Thintuition - Intuitive Eating	I think your UD/DD calories that you are following are fine. I would keep everything and differently eat right up to those UD calories. It's the "gap" between UD and DD calories that helps JUDDD to create it's magic! I think your "gap" is fine. Coming off of low cal may be the issue right now so give it a bit more time. 2 more weeks and see what happens, that's my suggestion!

01-24-2013, 01:33 AM	#28
grammyw/kitties Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Nebraska Posts: 113 Gallery: grammyw/kitties Stats: I am 170.2 WOE: I am starting IF leaning towards locarb Start Date: Starting Dec 20,2012	The book talks like some people don't start to lose for a couple months, thats me..I know I feel good in this woe..patience it will come I have faith!

01-24-2013, 03:45 AM	#29
krow134 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 1,427 Gallery: krow134 Stats: 207 starting weight in 2012 WOE: Low Carb/JUDDD	my suggestion is to keep doing what your doing. it takes some time for the woe to kick in and the gene to start working. at some point you will start losing inches that you will slowly start to notice. one thing with JUDDD is for the average person it's a slow process. most people here will tell you to give it a full month. hang in there!

01-24-2013, 03:51 AM	#30
adillenal Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 7,104 Gallery: adillenal	Patience is all I can say. I did not lose my first two weeks of JUDDD and look at me now. If I had used the first two weeks as an indicator of weight loss I would have jumped ship and tried something else. I have had whole months that I lost NOTHING. But I am almost 5 pounds below my original goal weight today. If you are looking for FAST weight loss, I can recommend LC low fat because that works for me but I am not willing to restrict that much everyday.