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Old 01-28-2013, 06:15 PM   #31
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Years ago I had such an awesome insurance plan through work, my deductible was $500 and prescriptions were free and copay for Dr visits were $10 and all lab work covered. Do those plans exist anymore?
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:19 PM   #32
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I have the option to have a plan like that, Tex, but it costs over 2x what I pay now. If I needed to go to the doctor more often I'd definitely get it again.
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With regards to carbs...I think Quinoa is kind of low in carbs?...I actually found spaghetti made from Quinoa...I sure hope I can have a little on a down day..
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With regards to carbs...I think Quinoa is kind of low in carbs?...I actually found spaghetti made from Quinoa...I sure hope I can have a little on a down day..
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I eat quinoa regularly ( it!) but it is not low carb.
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I think rather than second guess everything you put in your mouth, just purchase a meter.
Maybe you can get your doc to prescribe so ins. will cover strips ($$).

You may find that only certain foods or quantity have an effect.

The amt of carb you ate in OP should be plenty to prevent liver dump...AND I don't care what the LC 'experts' say, I do not like elevated BG.

Your doc is correct; that many points may be daily fluctuation but it'd be nice not to worry about it.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:24 AM   #37
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I think rather than second guess everything you put in your mouth, just purchase a meter.
Maybe you can get your doc to prescribe so ins. will cover strips ($$).
I second this suggestion! You can also get a cheap meter at WalMart. I've found the Relion Prime to be as accurate as my far more expensive One Touch Ultra.

I really think everyone has a different individualized response to certain foods. I can eat practically a whole bag of sweet potato chips and my blood sugar won't go above 100 an hour later. But one slice of bread and it shoots up. A meter is so helpful with figuring out what you should and shouldn't eat.

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I agree, deedee, and I have both those meters and use the relion.
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Dee Dee and Jem, I got the Relion Prime and I've been experimenting to see which foods are ok and which cause my readings to go higher than I'd like to see them. It's interesting!
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I have the Prime, too...the strips are the cheapest *good* ones out there.

If I think the number is strangely low or high, I "double test" (2 separate strips, same finger) and the readings are usually within 5 points of each other (like 103 & 106, 130 & 134). My "bad" strips/meters have been 20-50 points different!

The only drawback I've noticed about the Prime is that if my blood drop is even a tiny bit smeared, it may give an inaccurate reading. I think all meters say not to use a smeared sample, but I've used 3 or 4 other meters that weren't quite so sensitive. If I'm hypo & my hands are shaking, it's hard *not* to smear!

PS: I almost *never* waste strips with this one, because it always sucks up enough blood & doesn't give me error readings.
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The only drawback I've noticed about the Prime is that if my blood drop is even a tiny bit smeared, it may give an inaccurate reading. I think all meters say not to use a smeared sample, but I've used 3 or 4 other meters that weren't quite so sensitive. If I'm hypo & my hands are shaking, it's hard *not* to smear!

PS: I almost *never* waste strips with this one, because it always sucks up enough blood & doesn't give me error readings.
I guess I have some skills I needed to develop in this area, because I often get error readings! It's usually because I didn't get a big enough drop I think. I'm learning!

Just to see, I tried having spaghetti with meatballs and soft breadsticks ... oh my goodness! My 1 hr level was fine, but my 2 hour level was 200 (should be under 120), the highest I've ever had, and my next morning level was 130, which is pretty much a diabetic level, right? CLEARLY I really am "glucose intolerant" and need to be careful with carbs. I'm so glad I discovered this, hopefully in time to slow/reverse the damage!

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I have the Free Style Lite. My MD gave me the meter and my insurance covers strips and lancets. Of course I've been diabetic and I guess the insurance company is just glad they don't have to pay for the Byeatta anymore or the pen needles. Some things have no effect on my blood sugar while things I would least expect will make it go up to 150. To me that is not bad since my blood glucose used to be 350 while on meds. Now it is not uncommon for it to be below 90 on a DD and usually under 120 on an UD, but I get the occasional 150 out of the blue.
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I guess I have some skills I needed to develop in this area, because I often get error readings! It's usually because I didn't get a big enough drop I think. I'm learning!

Just to see, I tried having spaghetti with meatballs and soft breadsticks ... oh my goodness! My 1 hr level was fine, but my 2 hour level was 200, the highest I've ever had, and my next morning level was 130, which is pretty much a diabetic level, right? CLEARLY I really am "glucose intolerant" and need to be careful with carbs. I'm so glad I discovered this, hopefully in time to slow/reverse the damage!
I wonder if it's the bread or pasta that made it go so high? Or the combination of both?
Is the meter expensive?
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I guess I have some skills I needed to develop in this area, because I often get error readings! It's usually because I didn't get a big enough drop I think. I'm learning!

Just to see, I tried having spaghetti with meatballs and soft breadsticks ... oh my goodness! My 1 hr level was fine, but my 2 hour level was 200, the highest I've ever had, and my next morning level was 130, which is pretty much a diabetic level, right? CLEARLY I really am "glucose intolerant" and need to be careful with carbs. I'm so glad I discovered this, hopefully in time to slow/reverse the damage!
I'm sure that others here have more expertise than I do, but my understanding is that pasta (spaghetti) is notorious for giving low BG readings at first but leads to spikes later. It's great that you are experimenting and using tools like a meter to see what works best for you.
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I wonder if it's the bread or pasta that made it go so high? Or the combination of both?
Is the meter expensive?
I don't know yet ... in the future, I'll experiment with, say, one breadstick as part of a balanced meal (with more protein and veg), or a small portion of pasta with more low carb foods, but that combination was horrible for my blood sugar level. It was kind of scary to see the results. However, just by reducing my carbs to low carb or even more balanced meals makes all the difference.

The Reli-On is not expensive at all ... just over $16, I think. Just so you know (because I didn't) the lancing device and lancets (needed to prick your finger) are separate, but they aren't expensive either.
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I have the Free Style Lite. My MD gave me the meter and my insurance covers strips and lancets. Of course I've been diabetic and I guess the insurance company is just glad they don't have to pay for the Byeatta anymore or the pen needles. Some things have no effect on my blood sugar while things I would least expect will make it go up to 150. To me that is not bad since my blood glucose used to be 350 while on meds. Now it is not uncommon for it to be below 90 on a DD and usually under 120 on an UD, but I get the occasional 150 out of the blue.
Carly, your amazing improvement is so encouraging. I hope that when I've lost more on JUDDD I will start seeing better numbers as well.
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Thanks, the last time I had my BG tested, in December, it was 101 after fasting, i didn't know at the time that was a bad thing..I hadn't started dieting yet then. I started dieting that week though because my weight was so high, and I'm anxious to see what my BG is now that I have been dieting fo a month and a half, but don't want to make a doc appointment for it.
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Calichris, I stopped eating wheat on Monday and my blood glucose readings have been AMAZING. I hope I won't jinx this, but it looks like more progress in 6 days than in 2 years of low-carbing and metformin.

The first couple days, my fasting (morning) BG was 160, which freaked me out...my normal is usually around 125-130. But yesterday was 92 and today was 103 (last night I had some ice cream & forgot my metformin; the night before I didn't have carbs for dinner or before bed).

I've also been getting great readings during the day; 103 on Thurs, 68 yesterday, 71 today. All these readings were 5 or more hours after eating; I hardly never catch my BG under 100 unless I've done something unusual. *And* I didn't feel hypoglycemic at all, or even hungry.

I've even been eating small amounts of rice, beans, potatoes, and corn tortillas!

So...I don't know if this is something you'd want to try...but so far, it seems pretty cool! Especially if I can (eventually) be a little more lenient with "other" carbs! I know LOTS of people who don't eat wheat or gluten; if that's the main thing I need to avoid, I really won't feel like such an oddball out in the world...or even at home!
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Wow, PJ, great results! I am thinking of trying wheat free at some point as an experiment, like you are doing. I'll let you know if I notice better numbers!
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PJ, that's interesting. I have never had blood sugar issues, but I had a pretty carby lunch yesterday and actually paid attention to what my body did. I got very sleepy and drained, but my heart was racing! I wonder if there might be a touch of something going on. I noticed the same thing a couple of weeks ago after a few pieces of pizza.

We're going gluten free tomorrow, but I did get some GF bread and rice noodles as well as some crackers, so basically GF replacement products. They aren't known for helping with blood glucose and can actually cause just as big of, or at least equal to, spikes as wheat products (since they just substitute the wheat with other forms of starches). I'm tempted to get a glucometer and see what happens.

When I was an EMT and tested periodically, just for fun, I'd often be in the 80s or 90s, even after full sugar Coke, etc. I haven't tested in years though.
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This is something I've noticed nearly all of my adult life, and as far as I know I don't have high blood sugar nor Diabetes. The only time I've ever seen a reading of my BG levels was at a work health day over 20 years ago, and it was 80 (after eating). Of course, I was about 120 lbs then. Anyway, back to what I was going to say! If I take a nap for an hour or so (or less), when I wake up I'm ravenous for carbs. I think that means my BG dropped, right? However, after a full night's sleep I don't have the same reaction/cravings.
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If I take a nap for an hour or so (or less), when I wake up I'm ravenous for carbs. I think that means my BG dropped, right? However, after a full night's sleep I don't have the same reaction/cravings.
If you're taking a nap after eating, it might be reactive hypoglycemia that's making you hungry.
If you're talking about a random nap...I'm not sure.

During the "full night's sleep" your liver keeps you "fed" by releasing glucose. I think that's why many people don't wake up hungry. I also think it's why sometimes, if you're very hungry but you wait (or have to wait) a while before you eat, you find that you're not hungry anymore; your liver gave you a snack!

PS--Oh, and my BG was 91 this morning! Yay for NO WHEAT!!!

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PS--Oh, and my BG was 91 this morning! Yay for NO WHEAT!!!
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Congratulations, Pirate Jenny! Sounds like giving up wheat has great health benefits for you. I haven't eaten wheat for over a year, and at this point I really don't miss it.
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PJ, that's interesting. I have never had blood sugar issues, but I had a pretty carby lunch yesterday and actually paid attention to what my body did. I got very sleepy and drained, but my heart was racing! I wonder if there might be a touch of something going on. I noticed the same thing a couple of weeks ago after a few pieces of pizza.
I've noticed the racing heart rate, too...mentioned it yesterday on another thread:
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I've definitely noticed racing heart after eating wheat;
so far this week, I've noticed it after eating corn.
(Sad face because I was hoping I could eat corn tortillas as a substitute for flour ones and other bread products.)
I've eaten small amounts of rice, beans, and potatoes and haven't had a noticeable reaction.

Increased heart rate is actually a simple home-test for food allergies.
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(I've known about the "pulse test" for years but really didn't want to find out if I should eliminate wheat!
How's that for STUBBORN?! )

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That pulse test is really interesting. I wish I could trust mine, but I'm on a beta-blocker, so I'm not sure how reliable it would be for me. It really sounds like that could be a strong indicator of an allergy or intolerance.
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PS--Oh, and my BG was 91 this morning! Yay for NO WHEAT!!!
I'm going to update in my journal from now on, but just had to let y'all know:

73 today!!!
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