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Old 01-16-2013, 11:46 PM   #1
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What are your typical UD/DD calories? (and... help!)


I'm just curious as to everyone's calorie counts on UD/DD.

I'm eating up to 500 on DD (my first DD I went over by 70 cals), and my UD I TRY to clock in around 1200-1400. Over 1400 is usually a struggle for me unless I have some sort of naughty dessert like cheesecake or something.

My first DD was over by quite a bit, I think I had a bit over 2k cals that day.... whoops! This was because we had fast food, a road trip (4 hours), dinner at Ikea (so easy to eat 1k+ cals there!) And then more food on our way back home at 11pm!

My more "controlled" eating environment (aka our flat) will only really allow a max of 1400, or maybe it's just that all the super high calorie foods take much longer to prepare, and so I end up making tunafish or a Gardein veggieburger? Who knows! Not even pizza made me go over 1400 tonight.

I'm just not very hungry for über calories unless we eat out.

The calculator said I should be at 433 for my DD (a little tough for me given I'm prone to dizziness/passing out) and my UD should be over 1700! What the?! There's no way I can get 1700 in unless we eat out every UD. And even then... I don't think it could totally happen.

Should I just be baking cakes and cookies and snack on those to get my 1700?! :O J/k but not really, haha!


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Old 01-17-2013, 01:38 AM   #2
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Alison, other more experienced JUDDDers will be on soon, maybe early in the morning. I am NOT all that experienced, but I can say that I can easily add some calories if I feel I need to maintain the "approximate" 1000 calorie difference to create the "bounce" between my UD and DD by simply adding some healthy fats. Avocado slices with breakfast, coconut oil in a smoothie, more cream in my coffee, more mayo on a sandwich or in that tunafish, etc.

It's also ok to start out with a little higher DD to get used to things and to prove to yourself that you can do it and you can learn to manage the day and the type and time of food you eat to not experienced dizziness.

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Old 01-17-2013, 02:06 AM   #3
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Yup, exactly this.
On the JUDDD calculator there's a range of calories depending on what % calorie restriction you want to go for. The lowest is if you eat 20% of RDA. Obviously that's the one to go for for maximum weight loss but many of us start higher & reduce gradually to get our bodies used to it.

Eating your calories on UDs is really important as JUDDD seems to be about the swing between calories as much as reducing on DDs. I use nuts to top my calories up if I haven't made it with my meals. Quick, handy and nicely calorific

Best of luck, it's a real learning journey and with persistence you'll find out what works for you.
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:31 AM   #4
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1,700 sounds like a lot, but it's really what you need to be aiming for-you need the big gap between your DDs and your UDs to make JUDDD work.

For me-my DDs range from 350 to around 500 calories, though I'm starting to bump this up as I begin to transition into maintenance. I don't count my UD calories but I aim for 1,700-2,000 on them.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:08 AM   #5
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If you will take both of your UD & DD numbers and add them together then divide by 2, I think this will help you see how much you really are saving over the week.

My numbers added together equal 1900 divide by 2 equal 950 calories per day, which is exactly 500 cals less than my bmr daily. When done correctly this should be at least one lb per week. It really does help to view JUDDD in this manner.
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My Max. DD = 500, UD = 1500, MD = 1000

If needed, I use nuts or nut butter to meet my UD max.

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Old 01-17-2013, 07:47 AM   #7
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DDs range from : 400-500 and UD from 1800-2000

I add in chocolate to get my UD calories! (lol) Just add some more calorie dense foods. JUDDD works because of the swing, so add in one of your favourite foods that other plans would not allow you to have
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:56 AM   #8
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I was one who struggled to get up to my max UD caloires from the start but soon discovered that by simply adding Nuts into my plan they bring that number up real quick and is a healthy choice too. JUDDD dont care where you get your caloires from.. I on the other hand do care where they come from.. I wanted to make a change for my health and i choose to eat foods that are not processed so it made a big challange to find the right kinds of higher calories with less bulk in my tummy too.. I lived on a lot of peanut butter to get to my number by the end of the day.. i remember many many days standing in my kitchen at almost days end eating like 4 to 6 tbl spoons of peanut butter to get there! I then relaized if i ate nuts by the handfull thru out the day it was much easier to get them in~Good luck~
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:29 AM   #9
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From my experience, and I believe Dr. J addresses this in his book: at first, you're still used to eating the calories spread over two days, so it's a challenge to eat more on the UD. For me, after a week or two eating the lower calorie DD consistently, my appetite kicked in and I was able to eat more on UD. Then, it was a challenge to keep the calorie count on UD's low enough.
Nuts and chocolate - for sure, my UD goto food for extra calories also! And Coconut Manna, can eat that straight from the jar, same calorie density as oil, but not as greasy. If you want cake and cookies for extra calories - I believe Dr. J would approve - in his book he says it's very important to not feel deprived on UD's. I've had my share of cookies, cake and candy for UD calories. The beautiful thing about JUDDD is that it's a straight calorie counting program, you individualize it for your personal food choices and satisifaction!!
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:31 AM   #10
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I wish there was a like button on posts!!! The above one would get one!!! This will do. All of the responses are good!!! Thanks for the info. I am new as well and eating up all the info I can get!!!

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Old 01-17-2013, 08:33 AM   #11
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Aww, thank you Melanie!
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:11 AM   #12
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I can't have the sweet treats in my procession, true to myself.
I don't do we'll with the stress having it.
But I usually always have dessert when we eat out.. Even though Im full, it's a treat, and hubby- whoever share it. it's just works for me. We'd rather eat at home. So that works well for me. And I don't feel deprived eating this way.
I too had trouble eating up to Up day calories- it was like stuffing myself like (some) I do at times, holiday, Thanksgiving , Xmas, Easter, July 4. Glad for only 4 major days in a year. For me, everybody's birthday cakes don't really bother me.
I didn't like the feeling of UD going into the evening, roll into bed stuffed, burp.
BUT now, I have to watch it, I go over UD calories all the time. It's adjusting what I ate.
High calorie foods. But not cakes, cookies, I can't it would put me in a spin of no return.
Since I a few pounds away from being 135# my goal ish wt.
I've been having to many up up and a way days. But holding on and not going up on the scale.
Dd for me, 450-700 it works for me. yesterday I had 700 cal on dd. it happened even staying away form nuts. it was for my head cold treatment. Ate two tangerines, at 100 ish. Cal. Which pushed me up. But I was needing it.
I put my satisfaction of my weight on how my clothes fit me, not what the lying scale says.
So there, are u sorry u asked? Smile . Terri
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I added a nice big heaping spoonful of Peter Pan Honey roasted peanut butter topped with a dollop of cool whip for a whopping 240 calories to get to my upday # yesterday. It was deee-licious.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:32 AM   #14
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I'm doing 500/1800. I WISH I had trouble eating my UD calories - I can always, always, eat more than that, since I am cursed with a prodigious appetite. I tend to eat low carb on UDs because protein/fat is just so calorie dense. On DDs I eat pretty much low-fat vegan, because I can eat a lot of veggies in my allotment. This time around on JUDDD I am really keeping track of calories, and it is working better than my first time around when I only tracked DDs and ate whatever I wanted on UDs. We're all so different.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:05 AM   #15
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Right now what's working for me is 440/2150. I'm heavier than you, and the UD number is from a weight about 15 pounds ago for me, but it's still working, so I'm not messing with it yet.

I would encourage you to eat up to your calculated UD calories. Seriously. It will signal to your body that you are not in starvation mode, get those sirtuins building, and you'll be amazed that you can lose faster that way than keeping your UDs so low. I know, it's a completely different mindset than you're used to. But it works!
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:29 AM   #16
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Thank you everyone for being so helpful! I'm definitely going to try and up my UD, then! One of my favorite treats is Oreos dipped in peanutbutter but I need to quiet that little nagging voice saying "stopppp eating! You can't have peanutbutter or cookies, you're going to get faaattt!"

I guess it's just what's been drilled into my head for years :/ and what brought me to this point in my weight. /sigh/
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:30 AM   #17
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Oh p.s. my meal with fast food/ikea was an UD, not a DD, whoops. It was late last night when I posted. Sorry!
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I wish there was a like button on posts!!! The above one would get one!!! This will do. All of the responses are good!!! Thanks for the info. I am new as well and eating up all the info I can get!!!
Me too, Happy! and you can eat as much info as you like...no calories! LOL
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:23 PM   #19
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Alison i love your new Avtar~ Your a beautiful gal~ Enjoy those oreos with peanutbutter,, and repeat after me while you eat them.. "I need these to get to my UD allotment of calories"! Love JUDDD~
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:19 PM   #20
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I don't have any problems getting to my UD calories, lol, and I have 1800! I find that I snack quite a bit naturally, and always have, which is probably why I gained so much in the first place! However, it certainly helps with UD cals. I have also allowed myself dessert once or twice a day on UD's.
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:00 AM   #21
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Ive never had trouble meeting my UD calories! LOL The trouble is not going over! Which I figure is why I'm overweight!
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:42 PM   #22
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Jo, I wonder how you maintain on such high calories? Do you exercise a lot? The other maintainers say that they eat very low DD's so that they can eat 2000+ on UD's. When I say very low, I mean under 200. I soooo hope I can eat like you when I get to maintenance!
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I'm just curious as to everyone's calorie counts on UD/DD.
When I first started JUDDD at just over 199 lb, my allowances were DD 406 and UD 2028. I've continued to use those numbers right up until now after losing 17 lb. When I check the JUDDD website at my current weight the numbers are a little lower but nothing major. But to answer your question, most up days I go over the 2028... sometimes way over (500+). I'm more good at sticking to or very close to my DD calories but on my UD cals I cannot seem to stop myself most of the time. I would say I go over more than I stay on target - so most up days are around 2400 calories sometimes more.
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Jo, I wonder how you maintain on such high calories? Do you exercise a lot? The other maintainers say that they eat very low DD's so that they can eat 2000+ on UD's. When I say very low, I mean under 200. I soooo hope I can eat like you when I get to maintenance!
I lost on 1800/500, so I haven't went up much to maintain.
I do exercise classes 2-3 times a week, do a cleaning job twice a week, and try to walk to the shops a couple of times a week too....and carry the shopping home!

In over a year there has never been a week where I didn't do at least 2 dd's and I almost always eat up to my calorie ceiling on UD's. I really credit this for giving my metabolism a little extra boost!
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up days for me 1900 down days 500-800c. I have never had trouble getting in my up day calories and I have never dipped below 500c on down days.
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Mine are UD 1550 and DD 460 for 30% on the calculator. I tend to go over on many UD by 100-300 calories (or more). DD usually fall around 460 give or take.
Will be going into maintenance soon and I'm not sure of my exact plan, will probably try the 5:2 program keeping very low DDs. Need to figure that out this week.
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