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TryingJudd 01-16-2013 01:25 PM

most effective JUDDD tweaks?
 
We're all trying to find the mode and method of JUDDDing that works for us. Usually that involves some tweaking or testing. Can you (pretty please) share your most successful tweak or test in terms of weight loss so I/we can start to learn from the accumulated community efforts? thanks!

sunday 01-16-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TryingJudd (Post 16199734)
We're all trying to find the mode and method of JUDDDing that works for us. Usually that involves some tweaking or testing. Can you (pretty please) share your most successful tweak or test in terms of weight loss so I/we can start to learn from the accumulated community efforts? thanks!

I kept hearing others talk about shaking things up now and then. I am now seeing that it may be just what I needed as well. :)
I have transitioned from vlc to a bit higher carbs and can say that it seems to agree with me. On DD, I have very limited less than 25, except for tater days. I added weights and toning weekly. I was just walking/rebounding/elliptical. Also, I went to a true fast from 5 pm to 9 am or later, don't know why this would change anything for me, but it did? :dunno:

KeirasMom 01-16-2013 01:44 PM

I do strict rotations and use the calories given by the calculator. My only tweaks have been to go into maintenance periodically to avoid diet fatigue. This works for me, and after doing a few weeks or a month of maintenance, I naturally gravitate toward lower calorie DDs again. I'm doing semi-maintenance right now as I'm close to goal, and have still lost a tiny bit, but I'm not eating my full 800 calories on DDs (500-750 ish so far). I'm hoping this will take me to goal and "real" maintenance.

sunday 01-16-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KeirasMom (Post 16199772)
I do strict rotations and use the calories given by the calculator. My only tweaks have been to go into maintenance periodically to avoid diet fatigue. This works for me, and after doing a few weeks or a month of maintenance, I naturally gravitate toward lower calorie DDs again. I'm doing semi-maintenance right now as I'm close to goal, and have still lost a tiny bit, but I'm not eating my full 800 calories on DDs (500-750 ish so far). I'm hoping this will take me to goal and "real" maintenance.

I believe it will! Since you have been so successful, this far! :high5:

I am planning to up my DD's when I get that close too.

sorenkkg 01-16-2013 04:02 PM

I find that staying lower-carb works best for me. I have some days (even DDs) where I have more carbs, but overall, I find I lose better, and feel better, on lower carbs.

What's "lower"-- for me, I'd say around 50g (net) or lower. Again, i don't stick to this like mental, it's just something i've noticed.

Also, I lose better the more rotations I can do without changing anything, without having an UUAD, just straight rotations. I follow my calorie limits as well, sometimes going a bit under on UDs, but generally, right where I should be. I'm still doing 500 on DDs, but will consider going to a lower number (per the calculator) next month.

sunday 01-16-2013 04:21 PM

Soren's post reminded me of one more change, in the beginning I used to add lots of fluff to get to my UD numbers. Especially nuts, evco & occasionally wine. I decided to try and eat as close to PHD as possible, when I crossed into 2013, because I want to see if just adding a few healthy foods benefited me in any way. The rub is, I am finding that the cleaner I eat, I can't always make my UD numbers. :dunno: I will eventually figure this out. But, I am lower than I have ever been on UD. So far, it is working out for me, but if I stall, I will go back to the drawing board.
I looked over my calendar and my carbs are around 25-45 per DD, and 70-80 gr on UD. So for me that is higher carb, don't know if it necessarily is for others.

svenskamae 01-16-2013 04:38 PM

I tweak JUDDD to be low carb (under 30 net per day), moderate protein (under 60 grams per day), and primal/clean (mostly), avoiding sweeteners and processed foods. I need all the help I can get to get my body to let go of fat,:sad: and I feel good and stay healthy on that approach. :) The only tweak I've added to that was to do some egg-and-fat fast days, which helped the scale drop.

Carly 01-16-2013 04:43 PM

I don't know if these are tweaks, but I stopped drinking coffee on DD because of cream calories and cut back diet soda to a glass or 2 a week. Otherwise I do strict rotations with DDs under 200 calories.

sunday 01-16-2013 05:30 PM

Carly & Dawn,
I have forgotten, I know we have talked before, do either of you eat below your stated UD cals? And if so, just sporadically or do you try to always meet that number?

:)

mom23kids 01-16-2013 05:30 PM

I like to throw in random hacks once in a while-I'm easily swayed to try new things if I read that someone's had good results with something :laugh: I've done the potato hack a couple of times (1-2 days), egg only days (doing one today actually), and I also did a meat and egg only fast for a whole week last month, right before Christmas. These little hacks keep me from getting bored and they also have all helped me lose weight-sometimes pretty significant amounts (last egg fast I did I lost 1.5lbs in one day I think?). But, after I do a hack I get back on my JUDDD rotations and I've never gained back the weight I've lost during a hack, afterwards :)

Carly 01-16-2013 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sunday (Post 16200295)
Carly & Dawn,
I have forgotten, I know we have talked before, do either of you eat below your stated UD cals? And if so, just sporadically or do you try to always meet that number?

:)

I actually haven't counted an UD since April- so I'm quite sure I'm just as much under as I am over in any given week. I eat about the same amount on UDs now as I did at 189, but again I'm not really sure what the numbers are. Some UDs I only have dinner and a bedtime snack- like a Fast 5 kind of deal, but some UDs I feel like I graze a little all day and still have a decent dinner and bedtime snack.

sunday 01-16-2013 05:45 PM

Thanks. I find that staying within a window on UD is not as easy as I thought it would be, I am eating 2 meals now with the 1st one at 500 or less, so I really do need to plan differently. I am not too much below, but at least 150 cals lower.

TryingJudd 01-16-2013 05:45 PM

This is great info - thanks for sharing! Keep them coming!

KeirasMom 01-16-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sunday (Post 16200295)
Carly & Dawn,
I have forgotten, I know we have talked before, do either of you eat below your stated UD cals? And if so, just sporadically or do you try to always meet that number?

:)

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Originally Posted by Carly (Post 16200316)
I actually haven't counted an UD since April- so I'm quite sure I'm just as much under as I am over in any given week. I eat about the same amount on UDs now as I did at 189, but again I'm not really sure what the numbers are. Some UDs I only have dinner and a bedtime snack- like a Fast 5 kind of deal, but some UDs I feel like I graze a little all day and still have a decent dinner and bedtime snack.

I'm exactly the opposite of Carly. I count every single bite on UDs and get as close to my UD number as possible. UDs consist of breakfast, lunch, dinner, and usually wine closer to bed time. DDs are usually just lunch and dinner (no wine), though I've been eating breakfast on DDs this week since I'm increasing my DD calories.

sunday 01-16-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KeirasMom (Post 16200329)
I'm exactly the opposite of Carly. I count every single bite on UDs and get as close to my UD number as possible. UDs consist of breakfast, lunch, dinner, and usually wine closer to bed time. DDs are usually just lunch and dinner (no wine), though I've been eating breakfast on DDs this week since I'm increasing my DD calories.

Yes!!! Breakfast is wonderful! :love: I will more than likely move back to this after I drop a bit more weight. I am just trying to shake up my JUDDD plan a bit. I am much hungrier when I do the weights, but then I realize I am also eating less protein. :p

Librarygirl 01-16-2013 06:34 PM

The pterostilbene is working for me. I took one this afternoon because I had all kinds of visions of what I wanted to eat tonight, and it would have taken me over my numbers. It didn't work immediately and I decided I would go up to 2000 (1874 is my number), but after I cooked dinner tonight I have no hunger. I may nibble on a bit of the enchiladas I cooked, but will not go over my calories and might come under. :)

sunday 01-16-2013 07:09 PM

:) That ptero is one great supp. Did you notice it immediately? Or did you need to take 2? I have always only had one per day.

calichris 01-16-2013 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sunday (Post 16200488)
:) That ptero is one great supp. Did you notice it immediately? Or did you need to take 2? I have always only had one per day.

Pterostilbene was just featured on Dr. Oz in the last week, but for memory rather than weight loss. (episode was on energy/age-fighting). A researcher said one capsule (50 mg) was recommended for 160 pounds, so if you weigh more, you should titrate up. I try to take two on DDs and one on UDs, although sometimes I forget. :*)

sunday 01-16-2013 09:25 PM

Thanks Chris. I just linked a couple of articles on the ptero. I am thinking JUDDD budds may be a good group for all of the researchers to follow because it seems that all of the major health universities are looking into this. Baylor has a study as well as Univ of Mississippi. :)

C'Marie 01-17-2013 01:45 AM

I also shake things up sometimes, I figure it keep the body guessing a bit. I did a fat fast recently, the potato hack, and yesterday I did an all-bacon day. Otherwise I just do plain lower carb, usually on UD it's between 50-80 carbs. I don't eat alot of sugar. I also limit dairy, and I have given up wheat.

LoCarbGal 01-17-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Librarygirl (Post 16200420)
The pterostilbene is working for me. I took one this afternoon because I had all kinds of visions of what I wanted to eat tonight, and it would have taken me over my numbers. It didn't work immediately and I decided I would go up to 2000 (1874 is my number), but after I cooked dinner tonight I have no hunger. I may nibble on a bit of the enchiladas I cooked, but will not go over my calories and might come under. :)

I'm glad it worked for you Cindy! When I read you were going to go over on your UD calories I worried you'd get stuck in that maintaining mode again, and you're just starting to really see what JUDDD can do when you stick to your numbers! Trust it! And how cool that the ptero may be a tool to help do it.

divinemsm54 01-17-2013 09:40 PM

Unfortunately standard judding only worked for the first week for me, then I stalled...and stalled...and stalled. I've since given up wheat and changed to 4 down days, 2 up days and one medium day per week and the weight is finally dropping off again. Regular juddding will be a great maintainer for me though! I don't do low carb but try to eat clean (whole foods or home made, grassfed beef and dairy, and organic chicken and veg) and use healthy oils and fats. It makes a huge difference in how I feel, which is as important to me as any weight loss benefits. I'm also doing a bit of potato hacking, making sure I eat those on my down days and usually 1x on up days. I don't know the science, but man does it curb the carby, sugar cravings!
--patty

mom23kids 01-18-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by C'Marie (Post 16200897)
I also shake things up sometimes, I figure it keep the body guessing a bit. I did a fat fast recently, the potato hack, and yesterday I did an all-bacon day. Otherwise I just do plain lower carb, usually on UD it's between 50-80 carbs. I don't eat alot of sugar. I also limit dairy, and I have given up wheat.

Now that's my kind of hack :laugh: What happened to your weight after your bacon day? How much bacon did you eat?

jenericstewart 01-19-2013 05:25 AM

I know Dr. J doesn't advocate carb counting, but I do believe that unless you naturally lose weight easily, taking carbs into consideration will eventually become a must.

Also, sufficient protein intake helps burn calories, among other things. I shoot for at least 100 grams protein on UD, which definitely makes a difference in my energy levels and attitude.

Joyjoy 01-19-2013 05:29 AM

Great thread. Thanks.:):heart:

TryingJudd 01-19-2013 11:36 AM

Ordered my pterostilbene. Next time I go to the docs I will have to bring a list of all the supplements I am now taking. That list is getting long!!

Librarygirl 01-19-2013 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jenericstewart (Post 16205574)
I know Dr. J doesn't advocate carb counting, but I do believe that unless you naturally lose weight easily, taking carbs into consideration will eventually become a must.

Also, sufficient protein intake helps burn calories, among other things. I shoot for at least 100 grams protein on UD, which definitely makes a difference in my energy levels and attitude.

This is interesting. I eat carbs without counting now on JUDDD and it doesn't cause me to binge or eat over my calories, however I am losing so slowly. Do you think even if you are at your numbers, calorie-wise, that carbs may inhibit loss?

jenericstewart 01-19-2013 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Librarygirl (Post 16206814)
This is interesting. I eat carbs without counting now on JUDDD and it doesn't cause me to binge or eat over my calories, however I am losing so slowly. Do you think even if you are at your numbers, calorie-wise, that carbs may inhibit loss?

I have a hard time believing that this wouldn't help everyone, not just insulin resistant folks. :D It might not seem as "fun" at first, but actually, the fewer carbs you consume, the less your appetite.

Librarygirl 01-19-2013 05:25 PM

I know that for a fact, having done LC on a number of occasions, including right before I started JUDDD. However, as I said, I do not go over my caloric restrictions in spite of carbs, so unless they specifically cause you to stall---not overeat, I wouldn't want to go back to LC. ;)

jenericstewart 01-19-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Librarygirl (Post 16206860)
... I wouldn't want to go back to LC. ;)

I wouldn't either. All power to ya. :D I'm not really referring to low carb, though. 100 carbs on an UD is what I'm thinking.

I didn't watch carbs while I was on JUDDD. The weight completely quit coming off after two and a half months. I faithfully followed JUDDD six more weeks, and the weight would NOT move. I went from losing two pounds a week to nothing.

I've just come to this conclusion after a couple months of experimentation. I was having problems keeping off the 51 pounds I'd lost, and through trial and error, I've learned that I can only do that by moderate carb and calorie restriction.

I'm about ready to go back on JUDDD, but I have one more venue I wanted to try beforehand (carb cycling). If that doesn't work, I'll be back to JUDDD. I sure loved losing weight on that. This time, I suspect it'll work again. :)


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