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Old 12-11-2012, 08:55 PM   #31
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I have a few tricks in my get-things-moving bag:
(in random order )
1. Hot beverage on empty stomach first thing in the morning. I have tried hot tea and hot water with lemon since I'm not a coffee person.
2. Peppermint tea, smooth move herbal tea, or dieter's herbal tea. These work a little too well for me so it is only if all else fails. York patties also work for me...just a couple of the fun size on an UD, not nearly as severe as the teas.
3. Spoonful of honey on an empty stomach.
4. Bowl of chili with a fiber one brownie for dessert.
5. Detox baths with ACV, epsom salt (which is magnesium) and baking soda. My current fave. Still doing the baths every other day and haven't had to resort to any other method since then.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:35 PM   #32
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Oh, I forgot one and came back too late to edit. A month or so back I started adding milled flax seed to all our ground turkey. I'm more of a dump and pour kind of a cook, but I'd guess it is a couple of tablespoons per pound. I cook up several pounds at a time, seasoning it with garlic and onion powder, a little chili powder, salt and pepper. Before I put the meat in I also add a little coconut oil and some veggies...about 1/4 c each of onions, green peppers, and carrots. I saw something similar on Pinterest and I promise you the kids never noticed the veggies in any of the dinners I have made. I have used it for soups, chili, Mexican, Italian, sloppy joes, etc. So....

#6. A little extra flax and incognito veggies in ground meat
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:41 PM   #33
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Be careful with "Dirt" had the opposite effect on me, and ended up in serious pain.

The quick solution; take 2 (i use chewable) 1 gram vitamin C tablets every haf hour, I guarantee you will go within 3 hours, probably quicker.

For a "Calmer" solution ongoing, Magnesium before bed, but I do find taking Vit C (500 mg) with the Magnesium makes it more effective as supplement in general as it helps absorbsion
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:54 AM   #34
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Try running. It certainly works once you can run for maybe ten minutes together? It's worth building up to that. You could consider it a secondary weight loss benefit...
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:08 AM   #35
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oh flax seed is a good one! Tons of fiber! Also, something so so basic theat I dont think has been mentioned...

WATER!! And heaps of it. If I am 'clogged up' I try and get at least 3 litres in. It eventually 'moves' stuff and the more the better. And hey, its calorie free
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If you want to try diatomaceous earth, make sure it is labelled "food grade". The grade used to kill bugs can damage your insides.

If you want to try magnesium, make sure it is an '-ate' (as in citrate) and not an '-ide' (as in oxide - not digested, just rides through your body watching the scenery and interacting with nothing). If it does not specify '-ate' assume it is an '-ide' and keep looking.

Take a hike. Walking exercises those - so to speak - muscles. Gives them more strength to push with.

If one form of bulking fiber additive (ground flax seed, ground psyllium husks, glucomannan, etc) plugs you up like quick-set concrete do not assume they all will. If one is a fail, try another. Do not take pressed fiber tablets! They can lodge in your esophagus, start absorbing water, and do serious damage like tearing. And, if they lodge high enough, they can cut off your airway as they swell. Take them as powder - either a container of powder or as gel caps - and include more fluid than the container recommends. I open and add two gel caps of gluc to bone broth or soup - it creates a rich and creamy texture.

Keep hydrated! Keep hydrated! Keep hydrated! Then, have a glass of water.

Caffeine causes peristaltic action (as does magnesium '-ate') - waves of muscle contraction in your colon. Sometimes adding a little fat (hwc, half-n-half, etc) seems to lubricate and speed things up.

Keep track of the fiber content of what you have eat! A few rounds of liquid-only or very low volume DDs (or low fiber UDs) is going to clean things out then result in - ahem - intermittent activity.

When in danger,
Or in doubt,
Eat more veggies,
Clean it out.
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:53 AM   #37
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My son has irritable bowel syndrome so we have been discovering how different people react to foods.


For him - and I have discovered me too- high fibre just bungs you up, especially wheat bran. I had a bad experience with the dirt too. Didn't go for a week and felt very uncomfortable. Pre-biotics make me very uncomfortable. I get very gassy and nauseous.

What works for me is eating low fibre generally. Soluble fibre in prunes and potatoes works though. Some of us have a naturally slow peristalsis so adding fibre just makes it worse.

If I want to clear things I just drink a lot of red wine. Works a trick although you feel bad in all other ways so only if you are desperate. I don;t worry about being regular. As long as I'm comfortable and not bloated I reckon my body is doing what is good for it.
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:56 AM   #38
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Um, yes, to Nancy's point above.
Eating celery on a regular basis will keep you regular as will spinach, lettuce and (sorry Cindy) cucumbers.
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I have a few tricks in my get-things-moving bag:
(in random order )
1. Hot beverage on empty stomach first thing in the morning. I have tried hot tea and hot water with lemon since I'm not a coffee person.
2. Peppermint tea, smooth move herbal tea, or dieter's herbal tea. These work a little too well for me so it is only if all else fails. York patties also work for me...just a couple of the fun size on an UD, not nearly as severe as the teas.
3. Spoonful of honey on an empty stomach.
4. Bowl of chili with a fiber one brownie for dessert.
5. Detox baths with ACV, epsom salt (which is magnesium) and baking soda. My current fave. Still doing the baths every other day and haven't had to resort to any other method since then.
I've seen detox baths mentioned before-how much of each ingredient do you put in the tub? How long do you soak in it?
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:38 AM   #40
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Wow! So much information. I must say I was a bit shocked to see "run". I do know that would probably work...let's say I am challenged at speed walking right now. This is a new problem with me and hasn't been one I've suffered with often. I started having problems on LC, but it worked out over the two months I did it and everything was fine. Seems to be a problem on any diet in the first few weeks, I think. I have a lot here to work with now, and I thank each and every one of you.
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Do be cautious, as others have mentioned, since DE, gluc and shirataki noodles all backed me up rather than accomplishing what others have said they will do.
Guess kettleboy and I have something in common.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:09 AM   #42
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Dang! for the red wine!

I love the taste but have no tolerance. Two sips and I'm tipsy. One glass and I'm asleep. No wonder I never ran across that cure! Just call me 'designated driver'.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:07 AM   #43
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If wine worked for me, I would have never posted this, lol. Ditto with caffeine. Hydrating well today, which has been a problem so far. Might be the solution too.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:28 AM   #44
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I am always surprised a delighted with what I find on here after I've checked my 'user' panel.

And I am not disappointed today

I have no 'issues' with my bowels I am happy to say.

However I do take Magnesium, just cos, also Dirt which I take in flavoured water a whole T every night and swear it is good for everything. Also a probiotic.

Hope everything works 'out' for you Cinds.
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Please to me dirt isn't real dirt.
Also what is the full proof coffee? Or bullet coffee?
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Meant to say tell me Dirt isn't dirt??
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omg about the dirt. LOL. i thought it was a joke at first too. have to read up on that one!

i take 2 magnesium citrate tablets a day. i was wondering- is this a good idea to take on going? i don't want to become dependent on it.

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My magnesium has citrate as an ingredient. Not sure if it's the right one to take tho.
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Cascara Sagrada.

I started 1/2 dose about 3 weeks ago after reading about it's gut healing properties (The Herbal Resource has a good article)
I e mailed Ray Peat and asked it a smaller dose would still supply the benefits w/o the laxative effect since that is usually not an issue.
His response was yes and a small dose may still have a laxative effect.

I started taking one cap w a glass of water each evening and it has been great.
No tummy troubles and gurgling (and scary moments when a bano is not close) as was w flax.

Normal urge and better evac, I think, since I completely lose any heaviness....also not so much variation in texture due to IBS symptoms.

It is also known to stimulate the gall bladder and heal the liver.
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Wikipedia says it should not be used for more than 8-10 days, jem. Also should not be used by anyone with IBS, hemorrhoids, etc. ??? Not that wiki is THE word.
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There are times when disease and such are active that it may not be the best but at half dose it has been an amazing recovery herb.

Maybe read some other sources....the one I mentioned??
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Glad you started this thread, LG. I have never had bathroom issues, but I sure do now! OY! I was eyeballing my kids' miralax fondly this morning. LOL!
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Mel, your children take miralax?
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Yep, on & off, LG. They're older now, but we had horrible issues whem my middle was a tot. It was absolutely AWFUL. Miralax was a miracle for us. I that stuff!!!
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Maybe you should take some too. Send me some!
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I've been having the same issue, and this post is very...eye opening. I'd never heard of eating dirt before! at least not voluntarily.

I just bought some specialty probiotics from Whole Foods. They were pricey but I'm hoping worth it. I also chugged some Natural Calm. Hope this gets things moving again.
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LCG, thanks for posting about this. I have the same issue & need to find some natural to use! I've used DE for my chickens, cows & goats. Guess I need to buy more to use on me!

I like prunes, so that may be an option for me,too! Thanks to everyone for their ideas!!
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Cascara Sagrada.

I started 1/2 dose about 3 weeks ago after reading about it's gut healing properties (The Herbal Resource has a good article)
I e mailed Ray Peat and asked it a smaller dose would still supply the benefits w/o the laxative effect since that is usually not an issue.
His response was yes and a small dose may still have a laxative effect.

I started taking one cap w a glass of water each evening and it has been great.
No tummy troubles and gurgling (and scary moments when a bano is not close) as was w flax.

Normal urge and better evac, I think, since I completely lose any heaviness....also not so much variation in texture due to IBS symptoms.

It is also known to stimulate the gall bladder and heal the liver.
I tried to read the article you mentioned but could not find it Can you tell me a bit more, I tried to Google the words Herbal Resource
and way to many articles to pick from that I got lost Who is Ray Peat? Are you taking pills or is it liquid?

Thanks Much!

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I think it's herbal-supplement-resource. Ray Peat has his own site so if you google his name it should come up.

I take the caps. It is not expensive.

Typically, it comes in 425 mg caps and a serving is 850 (two caps). I just take one but if I had an issue, could add another.

I do not take many supplements, 'cause I want to feel an effect!!

This is one that has probably had the most obvious benefit....in my life.
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