OK, is this possible??

HomeWorkerMT · 11-26-2012, 08:51 AM

Have any of you tried the Walden Farms Whipped Peanut Butter? How is it possible for it to be calorie free, fat free, carb free......? I have tried their chocolate dip that is zero everything. It has sort of a strange texture (you KNOW how I am about textures!) but the taste is not bad at all. I just wondered if the peanut butter is worth trying, or should I just stick to PB2?

Considering I will have to order either one, I am trying to avoid a long delay in getting the tastiest product!

Thanks!
Laura

Crazy PreK Teacher · 11-26-2012, 08:54 AM

If textures bother you...stick w/ the PB2!

HomeWorkerMT · 11-26-2012, 09:00 AM

For lack of a better term, is it "gloppy"? That is the reason I have problems with pudding!

The Walden's Farms Chocolate Dip causes the same issue for me; it is "gloppy." The only way I have been able to eat it is spread VERY thinly on a graham cracker. Maybe I could spread it on a banana and disguise the texture!

It cost too much to just not eat it!! Most "gloppy" and gooey things do me in!! There are a few exceptions, like chocolate icing, but don't give me chocolate pudding!

Thanks for the reply!
Laura

sweetlady2k · 11-26-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HomeWorkerMT

For lack of a better term, is it "gloppy"? That is the reason I have problems with pudding!

The Walden's Farms Chocolate Dip causes the same issue for me; it is "gloppy." The only way I have been able to eat it is spread VERY thinly on a graham cracker. Maybe I could spread it on a banana and disguise the texture!

It cost too much to just not eat it!! Most "gloppy" and gooey things do me in!! There are a few exceptions, like chocolate icing, but don't give me chocolate pudding!

Thanks for the reply!
Laura

I have some and while the taste is like milder pb it has a totally different texture. Very much like pudding not at all like pb. I mix it with things so I don't notice the texture as much.

SoHappy · 11-26-2012, 09:08 AM

I read that the reason Waldon Farm products are able to be Zero Calories is because they are made of ingredients that (mostly) can't be digested, but do actually have a bit of flavor. So they can come up with something that is (sometimes) fairly close to what they are trying to replicate in 0-calorie form.

I've had the peanut butter, and have some on hand right now. As peanut butter, I thought it was a failure. It's texture is a slippery custard-y gel. But, when you mix it about 50/50 with real peanut butter, it cuts the calories of the real stuff in half, and I don't notice that it isn't all just regular peanut butter.

I think that would be a great way to use all of their products. Rather than having to put up with the weird flavors and textures of the fake stuff, I just occasionally use it to mix into the real stuff to bring down the calories. Works pretty well that way, and I use these 'blends' even on Up Days sometimes.

Kissa · 11-26-2012, 09:13 AM

Clever as ever, Pat! Hope you had a great Thanksgiving.

In the UK we get peanut butter or peanut butter. Crunchy or smooth. So on DDs I just sniff it.

sunday · 11-26-2012, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SoHappy

I read that the reason Waldon Farm products are able to be Zero Calories is because they are made of ingredients that (mostly) can't be digested, but do actually have a bit of flavor. So they can come up with something that is (sometimes) fairly close to what they are trying to replicate in 0-calorie form.

Yes! This is why I can't eat any WF products!

So when I tasted the chocolate sauce a few years ago, I couldn't even swallow! I am sure it is psychological, but I can't even stomach the chemical taste.

piratejenny · 11-26-2012, 10:23 AM

Just keep in mind that in Food Labeling World, "zero calorie" can mean anything less than 5 calories per serving.
So if you have 2 or more servings of a "zero calorie" food, you could be getting at least 8 calories. NBD most of the time, but could add up, esp on a DD!

Those WF products are mostly made of cellulose, which is a fiber that humans can't digest, and artificial flavors & sweeteners...so while they might not be absolutely calorie-free, they're probably pretty close!

PS--another thing that's a factor for me, is that WF is also nutrition-free.
I just can't bring myself to spend $4 on a jar of something that has no protein or vitamins or anything in it.
So, personally, I'd go for the PB2.
And the texture is definitely more like a real food!

ravenrose · 11-26-2012, 12:05 PM

I went with the suggestion of ordering the cinnamon raisin one. It supposedly somewhat covers the weird flavor. while it's not awful, I tried it and it's still sitting in the refrigerator about 6 months later. all those times I needed something to eat, it never said "eat me now!" so I guess I would say skip it.

b_lou_who · 11-26-2012, 12:10 PM

artificial just cannot be good for you
a little pb2 in good yogurt spreads out the flavor for a low calorie cost

HomeWorkerMT · 11-26-2012, 04:37 PM

Thanks everyone. I have to agree with Sunday, it does seem to have a little bit of a metallic taste. I ate some of the chocolate sauce this afternoon on 1 graham cracker "stick" (1/4 of one sheet), and it was pretty nasty. Maybe mixed in with regular PB it would be palatable. But then why ruin perfectly good PB??

Laura

SoHappy · 11-26-2012, 04:47 PM

About the only time anyone would want to use the Walden Farm products is when they are really, really needing to cut the carbs and/or the calories. I occasionally, but rarely, use them for anything these days, although I did more in the past. Now I pretty much just eat regular food.. more on UDs and less on DDs.

But I think it's worth experimenting with. Sometimes there are products that a person finds they really like pretty well, and when that happens, it's a help that is welcomed.

ouizoid · 11-26-2012, 05:03 PM

the WF asian dressing and the WF chipotle mayo are actually not bad at all. The rest of those products are only fit for consumption if you are mixing them into something else.

wiiiifit · 11-26-2012, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by piratejenny

Just keep in mind that in Food Labeling World, "zero calorie" can mean anything less than 5 calories per serving.
So if you have 2 or more servings of a "zero calorie" food, you could be getting at least 8 calories. NBD most of the time, but could add up, esp on a DD!
:

This. I read somewhere that a bottle of "Zero Calorie" butter spray has 800 calories. AND, I know some WW people who open it up and pour it on potatoes or popcorn. It is similar to canola oil. The only reason they can claim Pam and other sprays are zero calorie is because they count a serving as 1/4 of a second spray. A normal person sprays for 2 or 3 seconds and that could be 40 or 50 calories depending on the type of oil. It makes me mad that they are allowed to mislead people with this type of false labeling.

Carly · 11-27-2012, 03:50 AM

I have the chocolate peanut spread and have not consumed much. It is fairly similar to pudding in texture so I wouldn't recommend this if the texture doesn't agree with you. I took the suggestion of mixing the marshmellow dip in yogurt. On its own

, but in yogurt it is pretty good.

angie1 · 11-27-2012, 06:37 AM

i remember buying the walden farms peanut butter and being so excited to try it. Unfortunately it tasted like pure chemicals and made me gag. Never again.. smaller portions is the way to go! 1 tsp pb = 40 cals (not too bad!)

KeirasMom · 11-27-2012, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by angie1

i remember buying the walden farms peanut butter and being so excited to try it. Unfortunately it tasted like pure chemicals and made me gag. Never again.. smaller portions is the way to go! 1 tsp pb = 40 cals (not too bad!)

2 T of PB2 is only 45 calories, and I find it's just as good as regular peanut butter. When I feel particularly decadent, I mix it with water and CO. Nothing better on a banana! Of course that concoction gets saved for UDs!

piratejenny · 11-27-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wiiiifit

I read somewhere that a bottle of "Zero Calorie" butter spray has 800 calories. AND, I know some WW people who open it up and pour it on potatoes or popcorn.

sunday · 11-27-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wiiiifit

This. I read somewhere that a bottle of "Zero Calorie" butter spray has 800 calories. AND, I know some WW people who open it up and pour it on potatoes or popcorn. It is similar to canola oil. The only reason they can claim Pam and other sprays are zero calorie is because they count a serving as 1/4 of a second spray. A normal person sprays for 2 or 3 seconds and that could be 40 or 50 calories depending on the type of oil. It makes me mad that they are allowed to mislead people with this type of false labeling.

Yes and I am one who used to use the ICBINB zero spray on WW! I think someone created a website exposing all of the fatfree/low cal false advertising. I will see if I can locate it.

HomeWorkerMT · 11-27-2012, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angie1

i remember buying the walden farms peanut butter and being so excited to try it. Unfortunately it tasted like pure chemicals and made me gag. Never again.. smaller portions is the way to go! 1 tsp pb = 40 cals (not too bad!)

Normally a serving of peanut butter is 2 tablespoons. I would think 1 teaspoon would have 1/6 of the calories of 1 serving. (IF we are honest with ourselves about the teaspoon!). I use Peter Pan Whipped. Two tablespoons have 150 calories versus 200+ for regular peanut butter. One tsp of the whipped kind would be 25 calories.

Carly · 11-27-2012, 06:27 PM

But 2T of PB2 is delicious and filling for only 45 calories. I never would have survived early JUDDD with out PB2!

Debrat3 · 11-27-2012, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Carly

But 2T of PB2 is delicious and filling for only 45 calories. I never would have survived early JUDDD with out PB2!

Does the PB2 have the same texture like creamy PB? Can you buy this in most grocery stores? I have never heard of it? Oh does it have some sweetness like regular PB?

Luv2Eat · 11-27-2012, 10:50 PM

imho, pb2 is quite similar to real peanut butter. Just mix a little with water for a low calorie substitute. My grocery store has it now, next to protein drink mixes (folks must be boosting their drinks with it) and also in the 'health food' section.

I mix pb2 with Walden Farms peanut butter substitute, because I'm trying to use the WF peanut butter up.

Turtle2005 · 11-27-2012, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiiiifit

This. I read somewhere that a bottle of "Zero Calorie" butter spray has 800 calories. AND, I know some WW people who open it up and pour it on potatoes or popcorn. It is similar to canola oil. The only reason they can claim Pam and other sprays are zero calorie is because they count a serving as 1/4 of a second spray. A normal person sprays for 2 or 3 seconds and that could be 40 or 50 calories depending on the type of oil. It makes me mad that they are allowed to mislead people with this type of false labeling.

This reminds me of the newbie Atkins dieters who think, "Oh, goodie. My container of cream says zero carbs." and they use the stuff by the cupful for what they think are low carb desserts, and wonder why they're not losing weight.

KeirasMom · 11-28-2012, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Debrat3

Does the PB2 have the same texture like creamy PB? Can you buy this in most grocery stores? I have never heard of it? Oh does it have some sweetness like regular PB?

I have not found it in any of my grocery stores. I ordered it from Netrition. They also have a chocolate PB2 which is great. The texture is very similar when you mix with water, but not quite so oily. The taste, IMO, is PB. The ingredients are peanuts, salt, and sugar. That's it.

SoHappy · 11-28-2012, 06:44 AM

I read an article once about the making of peanut butter, and it said that 'real' peanut butter was always just ground up peanuts with a little salt added. The oil was the peanut oil.

Then the manufacturers found out they could express the peanut oil and sell it separately, and then replace the more precious peanut oil with cheap soy oil. But the flavor wasn't as good.

So they started adding sugar to the peanut butter to camoflage the soy oil flavor. And that's the recipe for most modern peanut butter.

So, I'm thinking the PB2 must be mostly just the pressed and dried peanut base that remains after the peanut oil is expressed. Is this correct?

I'll definitely look for it in my store next time I'm up there.

KeirasMom · 11-28-2012, 09:59 AM

Pat, that's exactly what it is. They make a peanut "flour" and remove something like 85% of the oil which is why there's such a dramatic reduction in calories, but it's still just peanuts, salt and sugar. Maybe they add the sugar because of the reduction in oil/fat? Or maybe because we're so used to sweet PB.

11-26-2012, 08:51 AM	#1
HomeWorkerMT Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 55 Gallery: HomeWorkerMT Stats: 163/158.8/140 WOE: WOE JUDDD Start Date: Sept. 28, 2012	OK, is this possible?? Have any of you tried the Walden Farms Whipped Peanut Butter? How is it possible for it to be calorie free, fat free, carb free......? I have tried their chocolate dip that is zero everything. It has sort of a strange texture (you KNOW how I am about textures!) but the taste is not bad at all. I just wondered if the peanut butter is worth trying, or should I just stick to PB2? Considering I will have to order either one, I am trying to avoid a long delay in getting the tastiest product! Thanks! Laura Last edited by HomeWorkerMT; 11-26-2012 at 08:53 AM..

11-26-2012, 09:00 AM	#3
HomeWorkerMT Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 55 Gallery: HomeWorkerMT Stats: 163/158.8/140 WOE: WOE JUDDD Start Date: Sept. 28, 2012	For lack of a better term, is it "gloppy"? That is the reason I have problems with pudding! The Walden's Farms Chocolate Dip causes the same issue for me; it is "gloppy." The only way I have been able to eat it is spread VERY thinly on a graham cracker. Maybe I could spread it on a banana and disguise the texture! It cost too much to just not eat it!! Most "gloppy" and gooey things do me in!! There are a few exceptions, like chocolate icing, but don't give me chocolate pudding! Thanks for the reply! Laura Last edited by HomeWorkerMT; 11-26-2012 at 09:04 AM..

11-26-2012, 09:08 AM	#5
SoHappy Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 17,935 Gallery: SoHappy Stats: obese/slimmer WOE: JUDDD!!!	I read that the reason Waldon Farm products are able to be Zero Calories is because they are made of ingredients that (mostly) can't be digested, but do actually have a bit of flavor. So they can come up with something that is (sometimes) fairly close to what they are trying to replicate in 0-calorie form. I've had the peanut butter, and have some on hand right now. As peanut butter, I thought it was a failure. It's texture is a slippery custard-y gel. But, when you mix it about 50/50 with real peanut butter, it cuts the calories of the real stuff in half, and I don't notice that it isn't all just regular peanut butter. I think that would be a great way to use all of their products. Rather than having to put up with the weird flavors and textures of the fake stuff, I just occasionally use it to mix into the real stuff to bring down the calories. Works pretty well that way, and I use these 'blends' even on Up Days sometimes. __________________ Best wishes, Pat

11-26-2012, 10:23 AM	#8
piratejenny Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,689 Gallery: piratejenny Stats: 293/285/<160 (5'7") WOE: LC/JUDDD/Fast5/Diabetes Miracle 2010-12 Start Date: 2013: IDK!	Just keep in mind that in Food Labeling World, "zero calorie" can mean anything less than 5 calories per serving. So if you have 2 or more servings of a "zero calorie" food, you could be getting at least 8 calories. NBD most of the time, but could add up, esp on a DD! Those WF products are mostly made of cellulose, which is a fiber that humans can't digest, and artificial flavors & sweeteners...so while they might not be absolutely calorie-free, they're probably pretty close! PS--another thing that's a factor for me, is that WF is also nutrition-free. I just can't bring myself to spend $4 on a jar of something that has no protein or vitamins or anything in it. So, personally, I'd go for the PB2. And the texture is definitely more like a real food! __________________ "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast." --Ace Rimmer "Really, how is eating a piece of cake bad? Being bad is murdering someone. That's bad. Don't do that." --Sarah Michelle Gellar **************************************** Last edited by piratejenny; 11-26-2012 at 10:27 AM.. Reason: PS

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11-26-2012, 08:54 AM	#2
Crazy PreK Teacher Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 787 Gallery: Crazy PreK Teacher Stats: (Pre-HCG 291)275.2/179.6/175 AT GOAL WOE: 411(2005)/291(Jan. '12)/170(NOW) HCG/now JUDDD/LC Start Date: LC~Jan. 20, 2012 hHCG~March 20, 2012	If textures bother you...stick w/ the PB2!

11-26-2012, 09:13 AM	#6
Kissa Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 16,464 Gallery: Kissa Stats: 184/124/126 5'3" Age 65 WOE: JUDDD/5:2 Start Date: 2001 Atkins -50 2011 JUDDD - 10	Clever as ever, Pat! Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. In the UK we get peanut butter or peanut butter. Crunchy or smooth. So on DDs I just sniff it.

11-26-2012, 12:05 PM	#9
ravenrose . Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: California Posts: 9,073 Gallery: ravenrose Stats: lost 130 lb so far, and miles to go before I sleep WOE: low carb controlled calorie Start Date: June, 2009	I went with the suggestion of ordering the cinnamon raisin one. It supposedly somewhat covers the weird flavor. while it's not awful, I tried it and it's still sitting in the refrigerator about 6 months later. all those times I needed something to eat, it never said "eat me now!" so I guess I would say skip it.

11-26-2012, 12:10 PM	#10
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11-26-2012, 04:37 PM	#11
HomeWorkerMT Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 55 Gallery: HomeWorkerMT Stats: 163/158.8/140 WOE: WOE JUDDD Start Date: Sept. 28, 2012	Thanks everyone. I have to agree with Sunday, it does seem to have a little bit of a metallic taste. I ate some of the chocolate sauce this afternoon on 1 graham cracker "stick" (1/4 of one sheet), and it was pretty nasty. Maybe mixed in with regular PB it would be palatable. But then why ruin perfectly good PB?? Laura

11-26-2012, 04:47 PM	#12
SoHappy Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 17,935 Gallery: SoHappy Stats: obese/slimmer WOE: JUDDD!!!	About the only time anyone would want to use the Walden Farm products is when they are really, really needing to cut the carbs and/or the calories. I occasionally, but rarely, use them for anything these days, although I did more in the past. Now I pretty much just eat regular food.. more on UDs and less on DDs. But I think it's worth experimenting with. Sometimes there are products that a person finds they really like pretty well, and when that happens, it's a help that is welcomed.

11-26-2012, 05:03 PM	#13
ouizoid Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,920 Gallery: ouizoid Stats: 225/165/145 WOE: JUDDD	the WF asian dressing and the WF chipotle mayo are actually not bad at all. The rest of those products are only fit for consumption if you are mixing them into something else.

11-27-2012, 03:50 AM	#15
Carly Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New York Posts: 4,181 Gallery: Carly Stats: 199/123.2/126.8 5'2" 36yrs Size 20/4P WOE: 5:2 to maintain Start Date: 2/21/12- Low carb (199lbs) 3/28/12 JUDDD (189lbs)	I have the chocolate peanut spread and have not consumed much. It is fairly similar to pudding in texture so I wouldn't recommend this if the texture doesn't agree with you. I took the suggestion of mixing the marshmellow dip in yogurt. On its own , but in yogurt it is pretty good.

11-27-2012, 06:37 AM	#16
angie1 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 455 Gallery: angie1 Stats: 185/182.8/155 - 5'5	i remember buying the walden farms peanut butter and being so excited to try it. Unfortunately it tasted like pure chemicals and made me gag. Never again.. smaller portions is the way to go! 1 tsp pb = 40 cals (not too bad!)

11-27-2012, 06:27 PM	#21
Carly Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New York Posts: 4,181 Gallery: Carly Stats: 199/123.2/126.8 5'2" 36yrs Size 20/4P WOE: 5:2 to maintain Start Date: 2/21/12- Low carb (199lbs) 3/28/12 JUDDD (189lbs)	But 2T of PB2 is delicious and filling for only 45 calories. I never would have survived early JUDDD with out PB2!

11-27-2012, 10:50 PM	#23
Luv2Eat Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 627 Gallery: Luv2Eat WOE: JUDDD dd 200 ud 1200 Start Date: Aug 2012	imho, pb2 is quite similar to real peanut butter. Just mix a little with water for a low calorie substitute. My grocery store has it now, next to protein drink mixes (folks must be boosting their drinks with it) and also in the 'health food' section. I mix pb2 with Walden Farms peanut butter substitute, because I'm trying to use the WF peanut butter up.

11-28-2012, 06:44 AM	#26
SoHappy Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 17,935 Gallery: SoHappy Stats: obese/slimmer WOE: JUDDD!!!	I read an article once about the making of peanut butter, and it said that 'real' peanut butter was always just ground up peanuts with a little salt added. The oil was the peanut oil. Then the manufacturers found out they could express the peanut oil and sell it separately, and then replace the more precious peanut oil with cheap soy oil. But the flavor wasn't as good. So they started adding sugar to the peanut butter to camoflage the soy oil flavor. And that's the recipe for most modern peanut butter. So, I'm thinking the PB2 must be mostly just the pressed and dried peanut base that remains after the peanut oil is expressed. Is this correct? I'll definitely look for it in my store next time I'm up there.

11-28-2012, 09:59 AM	#27
KeirasMom Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 7,316 Gallery: KeirasMom Stats: 277.6/155-159/165, 5'9", 40 y.o., Hypothyroid WOE: In Place of a Roadmap Start Date: Maintenance 1/23/13	Pat, that's exactly what it is. They make a peanut "flour" and remove something like 85% of the oil which is why there's such a dramatic reduction in calories, but it's still just peanuts, salt and sugar. Maybe they add the sugar because of the reduction in oil/fat? Or maybe because we're so used to sweet PB.