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Old 07-15-2013, 03:15 PM   #1741
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These are the results of my first PH attempt where I had coffee with hwc every day, and one day a couple of scrambled eggs. I also had small amounts of green onions, 0% fat green onions, soy sauce, queso dip, and so on at various points/meals.

#1 Potato Hack

Day 0 174.1
Day 1 173.6 -0.5 -0.5
Day 2 173.9 +0.3 -0.2
Day 3 174.8 +0.9 +0.7
Day 4 173.7 -1.1 -1.4
Day 5 172.4 -1.3 -2.7
Day 6 171.4 -1.0 -3.7
Day 7 170.9 -0.5 -4.2 Admitedly, this weight is a "got up late" one

So, -4.2 lbs in 7 days of Potato Hacking
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Old 07-15-2013, 03:47 PM   #1742
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I think 4 pounds in a week is awesome!
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Old 07-15-2013, 06:37 PM   #1743
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I do, too, Jeanyyy! I'm sure each of us doing this experiment will get "different mileage". We always say everyone's metabolism is different.
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Oh yes, that week was great!

This is this week:

Day 0 174.5
Day 1 172.9 -1.6
Day 2 171.6 -1.3
Day 3 171.6 0.0
Day 4 171.7 +0.1
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weeks not over and you are still doing great. Not every week is the same. Patience grasshopper.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:36 AM   #1746
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LOL!!

Oh, btw, I have tried the microwave potato chips and also experimented with doing them in the over (350, 30-40 minutes)... parchment paper in both cases; they were great!

Then tonight, just to try, I sliced up 2 small white nuggets, already cooked and cold, put those slices on a parchment-lined plate and 4 minutes in the microwave. They work too! Nice and crispy!
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No loss on the scale for me today. I'll have to try the already cooked/cold slices 4 min. in the MW, Jeanyyy. I have been baking up a dozen potatoes all at one time, chilling them so I always have the cooked ones handy.
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love this time of year for a dd. Veggies coming out of the garden and the grill!!Makes me have to watch because veggies have calories and I can overdo. I can eat meat tomorrow..I really want to see a loss on the scale but won't weigh till tomorrow
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Okay, now this is odd.

Yesterday, other than 2 cups of coffee each with 1 Tbsp hwc, I had NO fat and other condiments consisted of... vinegar and salt. Not sure how much potato I ate, but I was definitely satisfied. Liquids were 2 pots of herbal tea (I measured, 40 oz each) + a minimum of 36 oz water.

So I get up this morning, weigh myself.... 171.6 again (x 2). WTH? Jump in the shower, wash my hair, etc... and decide to weigh again to see if soaking wet hair weighs more.... 171.1 Was I *that* dirty???

I'm taking it!!
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I'll have to try the already cooked/cold slices 4 min. in the MW, Jeanyyy. I have been baking up a dozen potatoes all at one time, chilling them so I always have the cooked ones handy.
The ones I used had been boiled... I don't know if the first cooking method would make a difference or not, but they might be moister to begin with than baked ones? Let us know if it works, k?
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It worked, Jeany. I think only 3.5 min in my microwave will do it. They got crisp, and they were baked taters sliced as thin as I could (about 1/4") thick. Any thinner and they'd have fallen apart on me; if not, they'd require even less time. Nice to know I can do these from cooked though, rather than raw and have to get out the Rival slicer. Tasted about the same as those from raw, too, just much quicker to table (or perhaps I should say mouth ).
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(or perhaps I should say mouth ).
LOL... I giggled out loud when I read this My experience, too! Glad to know they work also
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Ummm.. do NOT crank the oven to 400, set timer for 25 minutes and go back downstairs... a) you may not hear the timer and b) 25 minutes is too long. Burnt potato chips!
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No loss on the scale for me today. I'll have to try the already cooked/cold slices 4 min. in the MW, Jeanyyy. I have been baking up a dozen potatoes all at one time, chilling them so I always have the cooked ones handy.

You may need to skip a day or two of the PH to trick your fat cells. They may be on to you. It seemed to have worked that way for you when your first hack stopped working. Please keep posting. I haven't stuck with the ph for as many days in a row as you but I am losing for the first time in years.
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If the scale doesn't go down in the morning, Oreo, I think I will let up until after my anniversary Friday. I was planning on slowly introducing fat/butter on my taters tomorrow anyway, and then eating some protein Thursday to slowly prepare my gut to receive my celebratory dinner Friday night. I have had one smart set point system for many years, so you just might be on to something. Today is day 12, so a break is in order anyway. I'll pick it up Sat or Sunday again.

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Hey all! I'm new to the JUDDD and particularly the potato hack - I've read through some of this but 59 pages - yikes! So forgive me if some of this has already been discussed.

From what I can gather, the real thing here is the resistant starch in the potatoes - and THAT is formed when the potato is cooked and then cooled. So what is everyone's impression of this? I mean, we've been eating potatoes hot and cold and I can't say I've noticed a huge difference in my appetite satiety between the two?

Also other things mentioned that are high in resistant starch - slightly green bananas, whole grains cooked and cooled before eating, corn cooked/cooled, roasted and cooled chickpeas, amongst other things.

So far DH and I are truly LOVING our down day potato days. We started last week with this (thanks Ouis!) and he's down about 4 net pounds, I'm down a couple. If it's really gonna make a difference to eat stuff cold rather than hot, then I'm all over it.

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Char--when I potato hack, I usually try and eat my daytime potatoes cold with vinegar and my nighttime ones hot. Dunno if it makes a dif, but it is my little nod to RS. I think there may also be something to the "glucose spike in the absence of fat thing," tho I am not so sure about that one.
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The only difference in cold and hot is RS. You will lose weight with both.

However, RS is resistant starch and truly it is good for us, but in all honesty, it depends on what you are after. If you are simply after the health benefits, then enjoy cold taters, green bananas, plantains, cold rice, etc and you will receive the best of both worlds. If you are looking for plain weight loss and no worries about any other benefits then hot is just as good and effective as cold.

It took me several months of studying to figure out why I should prefer Resistant Starch over starch. If you would like to know more about RS, there is more than you will ever want to find here.... Resistant Starch “Favours a normal colon metabolism”. RS fights diabetes, cancer, and bowel disease such as Crohn's and IBS.

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Iowa State researchers charting health benefits of slowly digested starches - News Service - Iowa State University
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THank you BOTH so very much!

I think we'll eat some hot and some cold (which is pretty much what we've been doing anyway!) and maybe throw some cold rice or beans in there every now and again!
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Lots of resistance in cold beans and rice as well.

I have decided that diversity is sanity.
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Diversity is definitely sanity

Because so many of my current calorie allowances have to be allocated to MCT oil (part of my migraine management protocol), I supplement with unmodified potato starch on UDs to be sure of getting the resistant starch I want for my gut bacteria

MCT and potato starch powder - my diet is very different than I would ever have envisaged. But, here I am, free of migraine pain, so I should continue with this, for at least as long as the UK heatwave lasts and then I might experiment with a little less MCT which would free up some calories for 'proper food'
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Down 1.3 lbs this am to 169.8 - despite an almost sleepless night. I finally got up around 3 am and had 3 SF fibre gummies and a Grissini breadstick, and read for a while. Eventually I did fall asleep only to wake to the alarm at 6 a.m. Gonna be a looong day!
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WTG Jeanyyy. Well I'm down a total of 10# this PH round and stopping officially today, not to resume until Saturday, after my anniversary celebratory dinner Friday night. I hope I don't carb/fat/protein bounce up too much in that 3 days. I'm so pleased this seems to be working for me and will defo use this WL tool again and again to jar my well-honed, VERY smart metabolic set-point system and hopefully, get to goal weight. Absolutely nothing else has worked for me, so what have I got to lose (figuratively, and 20 more pounds literally, he,he,he).
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Buttoni, I will be looking for your posts! I think I have been struggling with set point weight issues myself. If you start to lose again after a break then that tells me it is necessary to have the switch up. I have been aiming for 3-5 consecutive ph days and I do lose 2-3 pounds. I do have a weight bounce on off days but it still seems to be over all forward progress. I haven't stuck with it as long as you have but keep trying.
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WTG Jeanyyy. Well I'm down a total of 10# this PH round and stopping officially today, not to resume until Saturday, after my anniversary celebratory dinner Friday night.
I'm so pleased for both of you. I hope that you have a lovely anniversary, Buttoni.

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If you start to lose again after a break then that tells me it is necessary to have the switch up. I have been aiming for 3-5 consecutive ph days and I do lose 2-3 pounds.
At the risk of repeating myself, our bodies are plenty smart and think we're ridiculous for attempting to fritter away this nice reserve that they've built up against future famine. Bless them.

There are tens of thousands of processes busily at work, regulating our bodies and when it comes to our fat reserves, we can only influence a few of them. We do what we can including giving ourselves a potato holiday from time to time.
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"Bless them"? Slow, I curse mine, and on a REGULAR basis! I don't like that it's smarter than me. But I am pleased that the PH seems to be able to fool the clever little devil. And thank you for your kind words and support. This body of mine needs all the cheering it can get. I am DETERMINED to get to goal by year's end, by hook, or crook or potatoes! LOL 4 years is LONG ENOUGH!

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Thank you, Babs. Looking forward to the dinner out and seeing what a 3rd PH will do for me.
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Yes, happy anniversary, Peggy!! You may find that you continue to lose after ending the PH if you're careful re adding fats back.... I did, the first time.

I'm actually wavering a bit here. I was planning on PHing through Friday, then doing P3 type eating for the weekend and then another PH for Monday to Friday and loading for another HCG round on July 27-28th.... But I'm feeling a bit deprived atm, craving different foods, etc so I may change my plans - I think it would be good to ease up to P4 levels by the time I load (not to mention enjoy some healthy carbs like steel cut oatmeal etc). I'll see what the scale says tomorrow as far as this Thursday and Friday are concerned. I would like to get a little more solidly into the 160s before moving on and human nature being what it is, if I see a loss again tomorrow (or even if I don't), I'll be tempted to soldier on with PH at least for the rest of this workweek.

I was so not hungry for potatoes that I only had one cold boiled one today, about 3 pm. I had had a Starbucks venti americano with hwc that I finished around 11 a.m.... and had brought two cooked potatoes with me to the office, but... I was not hungry and didn't have the means to make them very interesting, anyway. I just put a little hot sauce on the one I did have. Then I stopped at Costco on the way home, and oh boy.. *everything* looked good!! I had a couple of samples, minor stuff, but could feel the wavering begin. When I got home, I had the other potato, warmed up with onion, on a bed of lettuce with a smidge of balsamic reduction and a few dried cranberries. Then I took the last medium-ish red potato and made chips. And that's what I've eaten today. Finishing off a pot of black cherry berry herbal tea at the moment and will head off to bed. Goodnight, everyone!

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Well, I bounced back up the 1.3 lbs, so sitting at 171.1. Tuesday I had a relatively sleepless night but I managed to get through the office day on Wednesday... then this morning, I did NOT hear my alarm. Woke up at 10:30 to a phone call from my dentist office and not feeling well at all. Cancelled my appointment and am taking a sick day. Bah!
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