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Old 05-07-2013, 02:07 PM   #1411
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When I do a potato DD I have my regular breakfast and then cold boiled potatoes the rest of the day so my calories are usually around 600 for my DD.
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The standard advice is to disregard the calories and eat to satiety.

The potatoes so modified my appetite that I had a hard time making my DD calories on them, never mind my UDs (albeit I did a 28 day hack).
OMG I bow to you. I cannot do this. I am so hungry!!! And I have done hcg (500 calorie diet) before. I don't want to gorge on potatoes, but I feel I can. I ate about a lb for lunch and want more. I am going to eat more, right now And my cravings are not gone. Just had a few squares of very high cocoa content chocolate. This is hard!!! Or maybe I just need to give it more time. I am on day #3. Day 1 was easiest to me. These last 2 days have been torture. Maybe it is because I have my family I need to feed as well. They are eating all sorts of yummy food and I sit with my piddly little potatoes I am bound and determined to do this because I see the scale being kind to me, but I wish it were easy
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Dawn,
May I ask what you are seasoning with? Sometimes, I think the malt vinegar or something of this nature help with satiety. I love to use "Slap Yo Mama" sauce because it really helps with the blandness of the tater.

Hang in there! You have made it this far and that is FANTASTIC!
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:25 PM   #1414
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Dawn,
May I ask what you are seasoning with? Sometimes, I think the malt vinegar or something of this nature help with satiety. I love to use "Slap Yo Mama" sauce because it really helps with the blandness of the tater.

Hang in there! You have made it this far and that is FANTASTIC!
Salt. Do not have the malt vinegar, or the funds to buy it right now.

Oh, and today I had a cup of broth. After eating my 1 lb of potatoes. Yesterday I had my potatoes cooked in broth.

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The standard advice is to disregard the calories and eat to satiety.

The potatoes so modified my appetite that I had a hard time making my DD calories on them, never mind my UDs (albeit I did a 28 day hack).
Great thanks, I'll try it!

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When I do a potato DD I have my regular breakfast and then cold boiled potatoes the rest of the day so my calories are usually around 600 for my DD.
My DD cals are only 340. I'll try to ignore the cals as Slowsure suggested and hoping it won't take much to satisfy my hunger. DD's used to be a lot easier and I could fast the entire day but now I am getting much hungier on DD's.

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I love to use "Slap Yo Mama" sauce
Love this name! What kind of sauce is it? I got the malt vinegar and red and Yukon gold potatoes at the store just now.


The funny thing about this PH is that I grew up on a farm and guess what we raised...potatoes! I grew up eating meat and potatoes and never had a weight problem but of course I was young and very active! Wish I could smuggle some back when I visit in June but we are flying and not sure that would work.
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Great thanks, I'll try it!

Love this name! What kind of sauce is it? I got the malt vinegar and red and Yukon gold potatoes at the store just now.


The funny thing about this PH is that I grew up on a farm and guess what we raised...potatoes! I grew up eating meat and potatoes and never had a weight problem but of course I was young and very active! Wish I could smuggle some back when I visit in June but we are flying and not sure that would work.
Actually, it is Slap Ya Mama . It is a Cajun pepper sauce that is very popular in the south. I think it may be one of the only hot sauces that I have found without MSG. I love it and use it liberally. It says 0 cals, carbs, etc.

As for the tater hack, I am eating some taters every day now. Some days less, but it has helped me in many ways. Can't believe I feared the tater at one time!
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Actually, it is Slap Ya Mama . It is a Cajun pepper sauce that is very popular in the south. I think it may be one of the only hot sauces that I have found without MSG. I love it and use it liberally. It says 0 cals, carbs, etc.

As for the tater hack, I am eating some taters every day now. Some days less, but it has helped me in many ways. Can't believe I feared the tater at one time!
I'll look for this SYM sauce at the grocery next time I am there. I really dislike grocery shopping so it'll be next week since I just went today.

You eat potatoes even on your UD's?

I have really avoided potatoes since I started LC and then when I did HCG. I have been afraid to add them back and a bit guilty considering that is what got me through my childhood and supported me! I do love potatoes!

I am hoping by adding them back that maybe eating any carbs won't cause me to bounce up which it seems to do now.

Thanks for your fun answers and support!
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I've seen Slap Ya Mama at Savemart and at our local meat shop. They have seasonings, as well as sauce.
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I've seen Slap Ya Mama at Savemart and at our local meat shop. They have seasonings, as well as sauce.
Thanks! We don't have a Savemart near but I'll look during my next grocery outing for the sauce and seasonings. It seems like I always have to go to Whole Foods, Trader Joe's and Pavillions or Albertsons.
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I've noticed that, when I can't seem to get full on the hack, I make myself chips or oven fries. The crunch seems to really help. I FINALLY figured out how to make the chips in the microwave thing work for me - my silicone mat. Still takes a bit of finangling but its getting the job done. I've experimented with salt & pepper, seasoning salt & ranch dressing powder as seasonings. They're all decent. You can also make a pseudo-ranch dip out of sprinkling powdered ranch dip onto fat free greek yogurt if you'd like a little something extra. Since the yogurt is FF, technically it should not interfere with the effects of the potato although there is some concern that adding extras interferes with the satiety portion of the program. Having said that, I know Ouiz has said she adds veggies at night, and I've done that as well.
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I've noticed that, when I can't seem to get full on the hack, I make myself chips or oven fries. The crunch seems to really help. I FINALLY figured out how to make the chips in the microwave thing work for me - my silicone mat. Still takes a bit of finangling but its getting the job done. I've experimented with salt & pepper, seasoning salt & ranch dressing powder as seasonings. They're all decent. You can also make a pseudo-ranch dip out of sprinkling powdered ranch dip onto fat free greek yogurt if you'd like a little something extra. Since the yogurt is FF, technically it should not interfere with the effects of the potato although there is some concern that adding extras interferes with the satiety portion of the program. Having said that, I know Ouiz has said she adds veggies at night, and I've done that as well.
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Thanks! I used your recipe for the potato slices baked in the broth. That was awesomely yummy Will have to do that one again. I have a silicone mat. How do you make the chips? Just thinly slice and put in micro? I love making the pepperoni chips that way. Those are awesome. I wonder if you could make them in the oven? I wonder how long in there? If anyone has tried them....let me know!! Oh, I guess I can look in the sticky we have.
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Thanks! I used your recipe for the potato slices baked in the broth. That was awesomely yummy Will have to do that one again. I have a silicone mat. How do you make the chips? Just thinly slice and put in micro? I love making the pepperoni chips that way. Those are awesome. I wonder if you could make them in the oven? I wonder how long in there? If anyone has tried them....let me know!! Oh, I guess I can look in the sticky we have.
Yah, I just peel & slice as thin as I can. I check them after 2-3 minutes, then flip. Keep checking every 2-3 minutes until done. They go from done to burnt very fast. In my hands, they are not all done at the same time, they finish in waves.
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So I'm thinking about going out and buying potatoes tonight and baking them all so I can try this hack tomorrow. My question is, for you that have done it, what's your energy/mood like during it?? I remember when I would try a day of just eggs man, I'd feel pooped by the end of the day. And kinda grumpy.
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I feel fine on potato days. I eat cold boiled potatoes with salt. I just do potato DD's though.
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I also feel fine. However there are many who have reported a "hypoglycemic" type reaction. YMMV.
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OK! Thank you ladies!! I'm gonna experiment tomorrow. I'm trying to do a dd as well. I haven't been doing JUDDD, but tomorrow I'm going to start. I've been kinda doing it naturally anyways I notice. I'll try and be super strict on a diet and then the next day be soo hungry that I end up stuffing face! So, we'll see how this goes! Thanks again! I'll be sure to post any results.
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OK! Thank you ladies!! I'm gonna experiment tomorrow. I'm trying to do a dd as well. I haven't been doing JUDDD, but tomorrow I'm going to start.
This may be too late but the collective JUDDD wisdom is to start with an UD rather than a DD, to make sure that you're not hungry going into your DD.

As for the potato hack, again, the standard advice is that even on a DD, you don't count your calories for this, but eat to satiety and no further.

I had a tricky time eating enough calories during the potato hack because, for me, it obliterated my appetite. Because of this, I did have some days of feeling very cold and low energy, as would be a natural consequence of being so very low calorie that I was also (probably) in ketosis.
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Thank you! Yeah, yesterday kinda was an upday for me (ate too much) so that's why I'm starting with a DD. I baked 6 potatoes before I went to bed. I'm hoping that's enough to get me through work! Hope you all have a great day!!
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OMG I bow to you. I cannot do this. I am so hungry!!! ... These last 2 days have been torture. Maybe it is because I have my family I need to feed as well. They are eating all sorts of yummy food and I sit with my piddly little potatoes I am bound and determined to do this because I see the scale being kind to me, but I wish it were easy
It was fairly straightforward for me to implement because my DH was away on a long business trip when I started and he continued to have very long working days after he returned, so I was able to continue it without disrupting our patterns that much at that time. So, yes, I'm sure it's different if you're dining with your family.

I don't think there's an easy way to predict response when it comes to appetite. Going into the hack I'd have bet a substantial amount of money on both potatoes and rice being triggers for me as I like them so much. Turns out that I'm wrong - I can eat vast quantities of both if they're prepared with fat or sugar but in the absence of these, emphatically not.
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It was fairly straightforward for me to implement because my DH was away on a long business trip when I started and he continued to have very long working days after he returned, so I was able to continue it without disrupting our patterns that much at that time. So, yes, I'm sure it's different if you're dining with your family.

I don't think there's an easy way to predict response when it comes to appetite. Going into the hack I'd have bet a substantial amount of money on both potatoes and rice being triggers for me as I like them so much. Turns out that I'm wrong - I can eat vast quantities of both if they're prepared with fat or sugar but in the absence of these, emphatically not.

I thought it was bad when my eldest son worked at Little Caesar's. He would bring pizza home. Not good when you are low carbing. Now he works 2 jobs---still the pizza place til his 2 weeks is completed and the movies. The bag of popcorn he brought home last night is large enough for the neighborhood and then some! I not only have a DH, but we have 4 children and they love to eat. And eat they do---all the time. So the smells, the food I have to look at. Well, let's just say that any diet is hard to stick to around here. The reason I have to be on a diet ALL THE TIME But I am doing this til Friday. I have started and will trudge on.
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I've seen Slap Ya Mama at Savemart and at our local meat shop. They have seasonings, as well as sauce.
I am going to watch for the seasonings as well. I know the sauce says 0 cals, 0 carbs, but it has to have something. It goes well with any seafood or meat (shrimp, tilapia, chicken)

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Just in case anyone cares, I went to the Slap Ya Mama site and they have a "slap ya" pack which contains "Everything you need in the kitchen except the chef!" for $29.95.
Really good deal, because this will last me all year. Well, maybe, except for the sauce. I will be needing several bottle of the sauce.

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I thought it was bad when my eldest son worked at Little Caesar's. He would bring pizza home. Not good when you are low carbing. Now he works 2 jobs---still the pizza place til his 2 weeks is completed and the movies. The bag of popcorn he brought home last night is large enough for the neighborhood and then some! I not only have a DH, but we have 4 children and they love to eat. And eat they do---all the time. So the smells, the food I have to look at. Well, let's just say that any diet is hard to stick to around here. The reason I have to be on a diet ALL THE TIME But I am doing this til Friday. I have started and will trudge on.
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I am going to watch for the seasonings as well. I know the sauce says 0 cals, 0 carbs, but it has to have something. It goes well with any seafood or meat (shrimp, tilapia, chicken)

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I love a seasoning with no sugar! I've been blending my own salts as I find cajun, seasoned, and garlic all have sugar. I may have to try these as I love me some spicy! Thanks!
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Ok, I have extra baked potatoes in the fridge. Last time I tried this with hot potatoes, I had a bad sugar spike/drop reaction, but the potatoes were hot.
I'm hoping cooked and cooled will create the resistant starch and I won't feel so icky.

My plan is the usual for a dd- fast with tea and vitamins all day, eat about 500 cals for dinner

I've heard it said you can have more calories on the hack?

Also- can I have sf jello for dessert? Is that allowed?

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I've heard it said you can have more calories on the hack?

Also- can I have sf jello for dessert? Is that allowed?
Eat to satiety on your potato DD rather than counting calories. Unless you want to, is there any reason that you're waiting until dinner to eat?

I'm assuming that SF jello has calories of some sort, in which case, you don't want to eat it within a 5 or 6 hour window of having eaten, or be going to eat, your potatoes. So, no - not if you actually mean as a dessert rather than something you eat several hours later (like bedtime, having eaten several hours earlier).

There isn't an agreed mechanism of action for why the potato hack works, so I think we tend to cover the bases by making sure there's a substantial enough gap between potatoes and other items that there's little chance of interfering with the glycaemic index/load of the potato by mixing it with anything else in the same eating window. (Hence the advice to stick to condiments in small amounts; FF dressings, broths etc.) So, if the increase in blood glucose and insulin, is the mechanism for releasing your free fatty acids, and therefore mobilising body fat, there's nothing to interfere with this rise.

The other suggestion for why it works is a fairly interesting one involving resistant starch in the large intenstine and some of the by-products produced from it by the microbiome there. That also involves short chain fatty acids and some rather nice biochemistry - so, although the 'eat the unadulterated potato' might not be necessary in this scenario, I think that nobody knows enough about it to have a view that they can wholeheartedly put forward. It would have to be one of those, "Try it for several days and see what happens" bits of advice that is useless when someone is asking about how to run a one-day hack.

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Tried my first potato hack day yesterday. I ate 6 baked potatoes, sometimes with a little salt, but still went to bed a little hungry. I was excited thinking after the first day I'd be down a pound or two. But was only down 0.3 lbs. whenever I do an egg or yogurt fast I'm always down 2-3lbs. But I'll prob still give this a few more chances!
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Tried my first potato hack day yesterday. I ate 6 baked potatoes, sometimes with a little salt, but still went to bed a little hungry. I was excited thinking after the first day I'd be down a pound or two. But was only down 0.3 lbs. whenever I do an egg or yogurt fast I'm always down 2-3lbs. But I'll prob still give this a few more chances!
This may or may not be relevant. If you're used to eating comparatively low carb, then eating potatoes will increase your water weight initially as this happens with carbs in the same way that eating protein dehydrates you, aside from the glycogen issue.

You've also, possibly, taken in more potassium than usual, and this has an impact on your water levels.

I also don't know the weight of potato that you ate and whether its residue is mostly still with you. (TMI but possibly true.)
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Haha no I wasn't doing low carb, I eat mostly vegetarian (with the exception of fish sometimes) but I think the last part of your post was very accurate! I feel like a bag of potatoes is no longer in my gut. TMI ik! I'm always exploring Eastern medicine- there's so much I've read about how happiness lies in your digestion. I completely think its true!!
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I am down 4 lbs in 4 potato days!!! WooHoo!! I am in it til tomorrow. Hoping for another great drop tomorrow. I want to finish strong!!!
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