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Old 02-15-2013, 11:27 PM   #1231
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I lost 5 lbs in 4 days the 1st time and the 2nd time 3 lbs in 3 days. I don't get why your JUDDD numbers aren't working? As you have heard me complain, I began having the exact same issue with 1600/300 which is as low as I will allow. I assume that it was the foods and the not cals.
My numbers don't work because I can't stick to them
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Oh dear, this is why we're all here love!
I haven't done a hack (as defined by more than 1 day) yet, but I've done 2 potato down days. I didn't count cals on those days, per se, but I did stick to the rules - no fats, etc. Both times, I was down over 1# the next day.
I've loaded up and I'm thinking I might start a potato hack from Monday through Wednesday. See how that goes and then try again for a few days in a few days. I think I can do it in short spurts intermixed with JUDDD.

Course, this brings me to a question - first day off a hack a UD or a DD? I'm thinking UD but...???
I go DD/UD/DD so I can enjoy an UD when its over (i only do 3 days)
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So day 2 nearly over and I ate ALOT of potatoes today!! For breakfast I had some boiled with a little salt and salsa. Lunch was chunky fries sprayed with a little olive oil spray and lots of spices (they were amazing ) and dinner well.... I'm not overly hungry, but I might make a potato soup. I ate ALOT of taters today (and I'll say it again...), but it IS meant to be my UD.I miss my usual saturday alcoholic beverage and am still craving a bit of meat or fruit. My weight went from 65.1 to 64.4 after a day, not unusual after a DD. Hope to see a drop again tomorrow. Common 63.....
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Ok, day #4 and I was down .4 sigh.....lol and for whatever reason I was emotionally out of control ( i know what the reason was, but won't bore ya'll with it!) I ate my potatoes like a good girl....then around 4 hours later i had a coffee w/ FF hnh in it.....THEN WHAM!! about 9 i made some cheese crisps out of a single slice of kraft deluxe cheese in the micro (dee lish and like a lil cheezit!) and then, about an hour later i had a WW ice cream bar....and then at 3:30 in the am i had 3 laughing cow wedges and a hot dog (no bun!) heated in the microwave.....in all fairness to myself, i KNOW it was emotional....ok, i'll spill, the ONLY man I have ever been engaged to, my hs sweetheart (we were just tooooooo young and i broke it off) reconnected and had talked a few times yesterday and then we talked for 3 hours last night on the phone.....in many ways i've always felt like all of my miserable failed relationships since then have been a result of that one...every one else has always been stacked up against him and they always fell short....and i've been hard on myself for hurting him when i ended it...yada yada...sooooo, i KNOW that was the emotional train wreck and i went to the fridge! But it's all good in the end and i think that we will come out of it all friends. We were each others first true loves and i'm not sure i've loved anyone since.....who knows...not to get all twin peaks on ya'll!
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PM: That may have sent me running for the Ben & Jerry's, so good on ya for sticking with WW ice cream. At least you're able to recognize the emotional eating for what it is. I really really feel like being able to recognize it is the first step in controlling it. And the best news is that you've got the tools to repair any damage, and then continue on in your journey.
Thank you Yennie!!! I've been doing a lot of praying and soul searching! But trust it will all work out in the end!
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Thank you Yennie!!! I've been doing a lot of praying and soul searching! But trust it will all work out in the end!
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I think you made some pretty good choices - all things considered.
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My numbers don't work because I can't stick to them
I love this response!

I hope the tater hack is good to you.
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Pibble, I can't wait to see you have a big drop!
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Good morning ya'll!!! I did drop a lb from yesterday (still up a lb from where i started the hack!) and while my food choices were good yesterday (coffee, greek yogurt and rice paper sushi rolls and ONE yummy crab/avo roll my "other" choices were hideous! lol slice of loaf cake from starbucks, two sugar cookies and 4 hershey ad a latte and TWO cake pops from starbucks! lol BUT i didn't eat in the middle of the night out of stress lol THAT is an accomplishment i guess!

I can't decide if i want to do two more days of the hack....i have the spuds cooked and am having my coffee w one tbs of hwc right now. Not hungry...i would have normal food, but it is a dd so i may as well finish off two more days of my spuds. lol I need tuesday to be a moderate ud since I am out of town and w friends for training. How does one do non normal days on juddd? I'm confused by the moderate day thing (and i admit i have not read the book...just a ton of posts on here!)

I talked a great deal with my HS sweetie last night (till 1:30 lol...we had to cut it short..we are not as young as we once were! lol) and we both want to take the time just to get to know each other. I think the fact that we are five states away is a GOOD thing!!! We can't throw the "lust" stuff from a new relationship in the mix, so it can't get in there and mess things up so we have to get to know each other lol....I can't lie...he has always had a special place in my heart (as any first true love would) and has always made my heart skip a beat! and still does! But i'm glad we cleared the air and are becoming friends again first! It just stinks that I literally start my new dream job (pivotal career move!) Tuesday and I'm not about to quit it! That would just be stupid and he has kids back home from a former marriage, i would NEVER allow him nor ask him to move far away. That would be fair to no one! So....for right now, i am happy just getting to reconnect with him via our late night phone calls! and silly music videos! lol

I hope ya'll have a great day!!
Peace, love and hash browns! rofl!!
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Pibble, I think you were due for a big drop and of course, had to stop. So, if it was me, I might think about doing the today and tomo tater and then go back to strict rotations. Have fun with the new romance! I love to hear about highschool flames that are reunited.
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Have been reading this whole thread and am currently up to post 733 and figured I would check in now.

A member here made mention of MDA and the 'Moar taters' thread which I have read from start to finish, and I actually prefer this thread much better. Clearly this hack does not work from everyone, but it is nice to see not every 10 posts chiming in saying this isnt healthy or its stupid or a fad.

Fact is it seems like noone really knows for 100% certain what is going on behind the scenes, but there is a lot of good theories, and a lot of good anecdotal evidence that it does work, and work well, at least for some people.

I am on day 4 and so far the results are nothing short of incredible.

I do have some questions, but the answers likely arent even out there to be had, and Im going to pop back in when I finish this thread in its entirety. Today is the first time I have measured my blood sugars as well so I have to check again in 12 minutes for my first half hour mark, then again at the one hour mark and probably by then I will be back to post my results.

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Ok, didn't check in yesterday because I was super busy having fun on the beach and totally not having a potato day . My days food was
5 x ciders
6 chicken wings
huge mexican salad

So heaps of fat, a bit of carbs, and plenty of good times. Its summer so....
Anyways, after 2 days on the hack I weighed myself
Before hack weight - 65.1 (after a big meal valentines day)
after 1 day - 64.4
after 2 day 63.0
I was crazy stunned to say the least. I ate HEAPS of potatoes (as I stated twice in my post that day). I moved the scale around, still 63. So I was happy
I had my day in the sun yesterday with regular food and beer, so today am trying for a potato DD. Then 1 more UD tomorrow then a break.
Todays weigh in 64.1. Pretty happy with that after what was almost an UD.

Pibble - Sometimes it doesn't make sense why some things work for some and not others. I gave low carb a go last year for 5 months and gained, that was a low point in my life and I was miserable. See how you feel off it and then maybe try it again (or not). Maybe calorie counting is better for you at this time with things going on, so you can treat your body to its cravings
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Some are so arrogant. Most of the men have this attitude about paleo and only one way works.

So thrilled for you Sicchi!!!

That is why you should go to PHD and read his Q&A. I can't get enough.

Also, if you have time to read Ray Cronise at hypothermics.com. He has helped so many people have success with rice & taters.
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Here was my sugars
Fasting: 92
1/2 Hour mark: 130
1 Hour mark: 156
1 1/2 Hour mark: 119
2 Hour mark: 101

Do these seem good? or reasonable at least?
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How many days have you been hacking? I think this sounds very good, but someone who tests bg will know better. It sounds like you are not diabetic? I am right?
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I am on day 4, and I am pre-diabetic, according to my doctor (though I am not on any medication).
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Xexist,

I think you may be able to get your BG normalized as KeyTones did, but you ought to take these numbers and post on her thread. I think she said hers took about 7 days, but not for certain. I don't know how anyone is able to do this past 5 days? You are doing great!

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So here is some questions / thoughts I was having.

If I understand correctly what people think is happening, when you eat the potatos it causes a large spike in blood sugar (especially when eaten hot), the lack of fat in the diet causes the body to take from fat stores.

So assuming the above to be correct. Is it not better to eat potatos hot, assuming you can handle it (greater blood sugar spike = greater insulin response = greater fat loss)? Or is that misguided thinking?

Also, does that not mean that eating more often will cause greater fat loss than eating less often? Maybe eating every 4 or 5 hours will cause the blood spike/insulin response/fat loss to occur more frequently, leading to greater results?

Any thoughts on this?

I have seen people state adding extra protein and fat to the diet is bad, can someone explain why on the protein? I can understand the fat needing to be cut, as its kinda the point, but how is extra protein sabotaging the diet (like in the case of no fat/low fat sour cream, or yogurt)

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Xexist, I thought the exact same thing, but hopefully Ouiz or someone who has more experience with this will know more. I suspect the reason they say very minimal protein, is to keep the tater your primary source of fuel and then fat stores will be released. Hang in there! Be back soon with an answer.
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The added protein slows the digestion of the carbs in the potato which reduces the major spike in blood sugar that causes the insulin release that mobilizes the fat. If you marginalize the spike, or slow down the release, you don't get the big insulin release, which is what burns the fat.
People with BG issues are often told to eat carbs along with protein to prevent a BG spike.
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The added protein slows the digestion of the carbs in the potato which reduces the major spike in blood sugar that causes the insulin release that mobilizes the fat. If you marginalize the spike, or slow down the release, you don't get the big insulin release, which is what burns the fat.
People with BG issues are often told to eat carbs along with protein to prevent a BG spike.
So food eaten around the same time as potatos can sabotage the effect we are looking for from them, but what about after the fact. Just as an example, if I alternated potato days and regular eating (not necessarily JUUDD because I am not doing that), the food from my regular eating days shouldnt effect the potato day results?

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Yup. A 4 hour window separating the potatoes from other fats & protein seems to be sufficient. So, for example, I have coffee with CO in the morning then wait 4 hours drinking only ea or water before starting to eat my potatoes. Then I don't eat anything else except until bed time. Obviously I sleep more than 4 hours so Im reset to have coffee again in the morning!
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Yup. A 4 hour window separating the potatoes from other fats & protein seems to be sufficient. So, for example, I have coffee with CO in the morning then wait 4 hours drinking only ea or water before starting to eat my potatoes. Then I don't eat anything else except until bed time. Obviously I sleep more than 4 hours so Im reset to have coffee again in the morning!
The first few days for me were a little difficult because I couldnt for the life of me make potatoes enjoyable. The best I came up with was 'not disgusting'. I have a simple potato soup I make now that I am really enjoying, like, REALLY enjoying. it will probably be my go to recipe from here on out, but it is very nice to know I can take a day off, or even a meal off, and it shouldnt really hold me back much in the long term.

I am totally sold on this potato diet now!
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Here was my sugars
Fasting: 92
1/2 Hour mark: 130
1 Hour mark: 156
1 1/2 Hour mark: 119
2 Hour mark: 101

Do these seem good? or reasonable at least?

Enjoy your taters, they took off 7 pounds in 5 days when I did it the first time, I'm on day one of a second attempt...

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The first few days for me were a little difficult because I couldnt for the life of me make potatoes enjoyable. The best I came up with was 'not disgusting'. I have a simple potato soup I make now that I am really enjoying, like, REALLY enjoying. it will probably be my go to recipe from here on out, but it is very nice to know I can take a day off, or even a meal off, and it shouldnt really hold me back much in the long term.

I am totally sold on this potato diet now!
Would you mind sharing the recipe? Always looking for new ideas!

You guys who've done the "fried" potatoes...I tried it tonight & it was a dismal failure. Can you let me know how you do the fry without oil?

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Yennie, I saw this on Pinterest and it actually works surprisingly well. You simply soak the potato fries in some water for 30 minutes before baking them. By soaking them, some of the starches leech out into the water. The starch in potatoes hinders moisture from escaping, which leaves more water in the potato. Make sure to rinse the potatoes well after soaking (to remove the starch) and pat them completely dry before cooking. If you don’t dry them well, you just add even more moisture.

I even did some checking on other foodie blogs and evidently this is a well known secret amongst all of the fry tater bakers. Also, I spritz my baking pan with coconut oil and turn the oven up to 400 degrees. Crispy and yummy.
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Would you mind sharing the recipe? Always looking for new ideas!

You guys who've done the "fried" potatoes...I tried it tonight & it was a dismal failure. Can you let me know how you do the fry without oil?

Thanks!
As I said its a simple soup. Maybe I am just easy to please but I was finding plain just far too bland, even cooking in broth didnt help much.

1 Boullion cube (beef or chicken) to 2 cups of water.
1-2 potatos (chopped into little cubes)
dash of pepper
splash of malt vinegar

I heat on the stove until boiling and only boil for about 9-10 minutes on medium heat. I like the potatoes firm and not mushy. They retain their shape and are very firm, but are still very well cooked and feel like I am eating something substatial and not just mush (like the over boiled potatoes I had been having before)

The boullion I have I think has 1 or 2 grams of fat in it per cube, but I only eat the broth while there is potato chunks left to eat, I end up dumping most of it some I dont feel like I am adding enough fat to hurt.

I had pizza tonight, first non potato meal I have had in about 4.5 days, but I have had such success on this that I am far from feeling guilty about it. I allowed myself a treat night. 4 slices of pizza, and a smoothie (frozen yogurt and skim milk, and a little sugar free davinci syrup).

2 weeks ago this wasnt even a big meal for me, tonight as much as I enjoyed my pizza, I feel like I just ate a semi truck lol.

Back to potatos tomorrow, and looking forward to it!
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Finished reading the whole thread now. Whew! What a read. I have a great respect for all you ladies (and guys?) doing this. This whole thing just reeks to me of 'FAD DIET! RUN AWAY!' but it really really works (well, for those lucky enough at least).

What a great bunch of people you are Im so glad I found you
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