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Old 11-16-2012, 04:54 AM   #1
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The HUNGER!!!!

OK, this is driving me nuts. Ever since last month when I had 4 UUAD in a row, I've been struggling (I mean STRUGGLING and starving) on DD. I've finally reached the point where I'm saying to heck with it, I look pretty good, I'm happy at 150!! Kind of.. I'm just tired of being starving every other day.

I tried upping my DD calories, but increasing calories just turned DD into UD. And UD into UUAD. The only way this works for me is if I stick to bare minimum on DD - but I'm toooooo huuuuuunnnngggggrrrryyyyy!!!!!

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I'll try again tomorrow...

Maybe if I VLC for a few days I can get the non-hunger back..
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:21 AM   #2
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Sorry you are having such a hard time!

I know a lot of people are finding success with "mini" meals on a DD, where they eat a small something (planned out) every hour.
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I have DD's where I am really hungry and then others that I am not. Those really hungry days seem to correspond to a drop on the scale. BUT they are really hard to get through.
I am taking pterostilbene and I may be imagining things but I think it helps with the appetite suppression.
Hang in there. It will work itself out. My DD's are still low since I tend to eat more on UD's but my DD's are really lC. Eggs, cream in my coffee, turkey and pickle spears, broth with gluc. Helps with the appetite monster.
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I have some DD's that are just like what you describe and then I have DD's where food seems unimportant. Only you can decide if you are at maintenance. If you feel good where you are at, why not?
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That's the thing - I've had DD like that before, and have seen a drop.. and I've had DD before and NOT seen a drop, but the next DD is fine. I can roll with the occasional hungry DD, but it's been incessant. Every. Single. DD. I'm not talking tummy grumblings or munchies or feeling a wee bit peckish.. I'm talking headaches, body aches, can barely function hunger - and I'm maintaining right here between 150 and 153 depending on whether it's an UD or a DD.
I used to LOVE DD - now I dread them. Sigh.
Sorry to be a downer - I'll work on it or else I'll call goal at 150 or else I'll stick to maintenance for a month and try again later or else I'll gain 5 lbs and then stick to rotations to get it off, lol..
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I was gonna say, maybe you can do maintenance through the holidays (which, to me, is a HUGE accomplishment when someone can do that!) and then start fresh if you still think you need to drop a bit more? Sounds like your bod just needs a little rest and refresh. I'm sorry it's been super hard lately! I'm new to this WOE, but whenever I have lost before, this is the point I'd throw in the towel and start regaining. You so don't need to do that...I'd take the little maintenance mental break and reeval later! Hugs, hugs, hugs to you!
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Thanks, Flutter.. I'm thinking about maintenance - maybe if I reduced to a set 2 DD a week for a little while, it'd be easier. I do think going VLC would help, but that takes a lot of prep (for me, anyway, lol) and I'm soooooo busy.
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I actually lost better during one of my maintenance breaks.
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No worries about being a downer, these are real struggles for many. It sounds like your body is trying to tell you something. If you need a break from JUDDD, you can go back to rotations when the time is right.
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I struggled mightily on my DD yesterday. It was a feeling of complete emptiness in my stomach. Very difficult to ignore. Maybe we should all go to a Buddhist guru or something and learn to transcend our bodies while we fast. (no offense to any religion meant)

I think you should do whatever your body is telling you, and maybe that is maintenance. Hell, you may even lose weight after your body "rests" for a period, as I've read happens sometimes.

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I struggled mightily on my DD yesterday. It was a feeling of complete emptiness in my stomach. Very difficult to ignore. Maybe we should all go to a Buddhist guru or something and learn to transcend our bodies while we fast. (no offense to any religion meant)

I think you should do whatever your body is telling you, and maybe that is maintenance. Hell, you may even lose weight after your body "rests" for a period, as I've read happens sometimes.

Good luck!

BTW, the title of this thread made me think of vampires.



I said hell and religion in one post.
Might I just say...you are a goofball, huh?

More hugs to you, lowcarbinca!
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:49 AM   #12
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It really does sound like your body is wanting to hold firm right here, and that's frustrating. You're tantalizingly close to your goal weight though! Good for you! I think the two choices you mentioned both sound like good options:'

1. VLC - this will definitely help with your appetite suppression if you want to press on with your current calories. Yes, more prep time, but if you really want to keep losing RIGHT NOW, it may be the way to go.

2. Maintenance - this may be a great option with the holiday season upon us. It's a super busy time, with lots of treats around. Maybe your brain needs some time off, and your body needs to assimilate your losses to date and get ready for the next round of losses. And yes, you may even start losing better if you up your calories to maintenance. Wouldn't that be a kick?!?

Whatever you decide, good luck to you. You can do this!
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:54 AM   #13
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First of all, hugs to you, because I had a couple periods of unexplainable and insatiable hunger that lasted beyond a few weeks as I got closer to goal as well, so I understand that gnawing hunger and how miserable it can be. What I chose to do at that time was to just move up to practically maintenance calories. I was such a slow loser to begin with, so I wanted to make a change to prevent diet fatigue and throwing in the towel. I actually never pulled back to wlm calories and just "maintained" my way to goal. Yes, it was insanely slow and at times I wasn't even sure I was still losing, but it was so worth it to not feel like I was suffering. The upside is that I actually can eat much higher than the pre-calculated "maintenance calories" to maintain now.

So either maintenance or vlc both sound like good choices while you let your body and mind rest and you may continue to lose even, or after a while, your mind and body may want to jump right back into active wlm again.

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I've mentioned in a few threads that "alkalizing" helps me a LOT with hunger.

The quickest, easiest fix for me is to take 1/4-1/2tsp baking soda in water. I put it in about 16-20 oz of water, drink some down quickly and then sip the rest. It kills my hunger instantly, and keeps my blood sugar very stable.

Some people may be concerned with the sodium in baking soda...it doesn't cause me to retain water or feel uncomfortable; salt in canned food, potato chips, Chinese food, etc do make me retain water. I think the sodium in bsoda isn't harmful for me personally, anyway. I feel better hydrated than when I drink plain water. Also, being alkaline is said to help the body absorb minerals like calcium & magnesium better....that might be part of why I feel less hungry...
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I have DD's where I am really hungry and then others that I am not. Those really hungry days seem to correspond to a drop on the scale. BUT they are really hard to get through.
I am taking pterostilbene and I may be imagining things but I think it helps with the appetite suppression.
I don't think it's your imagination. It's not a cure all but I think it helps a lot.
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I've mentioned in a few threads that "alkalizing" helps me a LOT with hunger.

The quickest, easiest fix for me is to take 1/4-1/2tsp baking soda in water. I put it in about 16-20 oz of water, drink some down quickly and then sip the rest. It kills my hunger instantly, and keeps my blood sugar very stable.

Some people may be concerned with the sodium in baking soda...it doesn't cause me to retain water or feel uncomfortable; salt in canned food, potato chips, Chinese food, etc do make me retain water. I think the sodium in bsoda isn't harmful for me personally, anyway. I feel better hydrated than when I drink plain water. Also, being alkaline is said to help the body absorb minerals like calcium & magnesium better....that might be part of why I feel less hungry...
I'm going to try this on Sat. I wonder if it would be ok to use the baking soda that's been in the freezer absorbing all the food odors? I'm not above it.
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I'm sure it won't kill you but it will probably be yucky.

Please treat yourself and get a box of FRESH baking soda!!!
You are totally worth the 79 cents!!!
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It's worth trying the pterostilbene if you want to try to continue with WLM. I think it helps.
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Thanks, everyone! I think I've just been victimized by the carb-monster, lol. I tend towards low blood sugar, and whenever I eat too many carbs (or heaven forfend, actual sugar) I get ravenous. I think I'll start going VLC tomorrow and when the hunger's gone I'll go back to JUDDD again. I started JUDDD initially after 3 days of VLC and did great, so I think 3 days of VLC will do it this time again. Lots of eggs and chicken salad and avocado and stuff, lol..
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Great advice here already Inca, I would recommend the pterostilbene too.
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Thanks, Flutter.. I'm thinking about maintenance - maybe if I reduced to a set 2 DD a week for a little while, it'd be easier. I do think going VLC would help, but that takes a lot of prep (for me, anyway, lol) and I'm soooooo busy.
A trick I do to help plan my DDs is I started a blogger blog (free) and the night before a DD I create a a post with a menu, with calories included. I then pull this up on my DD and refer to it throughout the day. Now that I've got a few DDs behind me I can just start recycling my DD menus You could also do this with a notebook, but with a blog it's easy to edit and I can make it pretty It's taking me less than 5 minutes to come up with a plan for my DDs now. I also avoid making recipes and complicated dishes on my DDs-I really like making them as simple as possible!

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Thanks, everyone! I think I've just been victimized by the carb-monster, lol. I tend towards low blood sugar, and whenever I eat too many carbs (or heaven forfend, actual sugar) I get ravenous. I think I'll start going VLC tomorrow and when the hunger's gone I'll go back to JUDDD again. I started JUDDD initially after 3 days of VLC and did great, so I think 3 days of VLC will do it this time again. Lots of eggs and chicken salad and avocado and stuff, lol..
Same thing happened to me early on in JUDDD, everytime I would try having sugar on UD, I went through horribly tough hunger the following DD. I don't know if it is just something I am sensitive to, but I finally had to ween it all out. I will probably have something with a bit of sugar for Thanksgiving, but in the same token knowing that it may hurt me later makes it not worth it. There is a price to pay.
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Thanks again, everyone. I think the few days of VLC may have done the trick - today's my 1st DD back on cycle, and I feel pretty good. Yes, it's not even 7am yet, lol, but perception is reality, I say!! Best part is, I am still right around my low weight, so eating all I wanted on VLC (roast chicken, yummm) didn't set me back at all.
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Thanks again, everyone. I think the few days of VLC may have done the trick - today's my 1st DD back on cycle, and I feel pretty good. Yes, it's not even 7am yet, lol, but perception is reality, I say!! Best part is, I am still right around my low weight, so eating all I wanted on VLC (roast chicken, yummm) didn't set me back at all.
Very glad to hear this! Better appetite suppression and being at your low weight, wonderful!
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ANtoher thing i found to help( if only me) is with those carb monsters, if i put my CO in my coffee in the am, i find it keeps that awfull feeling at bay.. Might be worht a shot.. I have recently gone back to full carbs. nothing off limit and i find i am more hungry now then i have ever been!!! So for me.. ( like i said might not be for you) The Co oil in my coffee in the Am or afternoon seams to work to get my hunger under control~ Best of luck sweetheart
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