JUDDD newbies: introduce yourselves! (Part 2) - Page 3

mom23kids · 11-15-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Librarygirl

Not really, lol. I am eating almonds right now. I couldn't stand the hunger.

Afraid I'm going to go over today...

At the end of my second DD I was ready to quit lol. I was starving and had a horrible headache. But some of the JUDDD veterans talked me off the ledge and a few mentioned doing small portions throughout the day. Tried that for my 3rd DD and it went so well! I wasn't hungry and no headache

Today is my 4th DD and it's also going great, but I'm eating or drinking something every couple hours (with a cut off of 7pm for the night). I highly recommend trying this method and seeing if DDs go better

Librarygirl · 11-15-2012, 03:38 PM

Definitely going to try that next DD. I can't take many more of today's, lol.

Librarygirl · 11-15-2012, 03:42 PM

I need an arsenal. I thought I was prepared today. I had pickled stuff, turkey, carrots, tomatoes and that chicken/cabbage thing. I just couldn't eat the tomatoes, and I only ate half of the chicken before I didn't want it. Don't know why I couldn't resist the (cocoa) almonds. I think I'll do better at home. It's difficult, to me, to do it at work where nibbling tends to keep boredom away, lol.

Joyjoy · 11-16-2012, 03:30 AM

Cindy, Sara, Library, Flutter, it's wonderful reading your posts! And great to have you with us.

mom23kids · 11-16-2012, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Librarygirl

I need an arsenal. I thought I was prepared today. I had pickled stuff, turkey, carrots, tomatoes and that chicken/cabbage thing. I just couldn't eat the tomatoes, and I only ate half of the chicken before I didn't want it. Don't know why I couldn't resist the (cocoa) almonds. I think I'll do better at home. It's difficult, to me, to do it at work where nibbling tends to keep boredom away, lol.

I make a tentative DD plan, but always end up tweaking it. Having lots of small portion options really helps! Last night I was supposed to finish my DD with a bowl of chicken broth but instead was craving chips. So I ate a pickle spear for the crunch and it only had 10 calories-same as the broth

I'm still experimenting with sweet options. I have a recipe for a chocolate pudding (sugar free pudding and almond milk). I'm going to make it today and see how it tastes. Otherwise diet hot cocoa is awesome! I mix it with water and it's 25 calories. I had two cups yesterday-first cup I added 1/2 pkt of splenda to make it extra sweet, and the second cup I added cool whip

One serving of cool whip is 25 calories and it hit the spot!

dawnyama · 11-16-2012, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Librarygirl

I need an arsenal. I thought I was prepared today. I had pickled stuff, turkey, carrots, tomatoes and that chicken/cabbage thing. I just couldn't eat the tomatoes, and I only ate half of the chicken before I didn't want it. Don't know why I couldn't resist the (cocoa) almonds. I think I'll do better at home. It's difficult, to me, to do it at work where nibbling tends to keep boredom away, lol.

Once you get going on the DDs they do become easier. While I have been doing JUDDD just for the week this time, I have been doing hcg for a few years. So I am used to not eating. You get used to it, may take a bit of getting used to but your body will adapt! Hang in there

Librarygirl · 11-16-2012, 05:57 AM

I had about 100 cals left to eat last night and I ate a small sweet potato and still felt completely empty, so later I couldn't resist my coconut fruit bar (120 cals). So, I definitely went over, but probably not more than 630ish. I forgive myself because this is so new and it was only my 2nd DD. I never thought I could go that low, so I feel like it's progress.

I have to tell you guys something funny though. I had a vivid dream of eating dogfood!!

I had it in a bowl and was eating it with a fork and was totally grossed out but kept eating it.

Now THAT is a hunger dream!!!

mom23kids · 11-16-2012, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Librarygirl

I had about 100 cals left to eat last night and I ate a small sweet potato and still felt completely empty, so later I couldn't resist my coconut fruit bar (120 cals). So, I definitely went over, but probably not more than 630ish. I forgive myself because this is so new and it was only my 2nd DD. I never thought I could go that low, so I feel like it's progress.

I have to tell you guys something funny though. I had a vivid dream of eating dogfood!!

I had it in a bowl and was eating it with a fork and was totally grossed out but kept eating it.

Now THAT is a hunger dream!!!

I dreamed about bacon last night! First thing I did after bathroom/weighing myself this morning was grabbing some cold, cooked bacon from the fridge lol!

Flutter · 11-16-2012, 08:03 AM

Library, I'm so sorry your day went crummy yesterday!

I was pretty grouchy myself, but TOM is approaching, too, so I ummm don't think that probably helped much. LOL! My poor family.

I love how forgiving you are with yourself over not meeting your initial goal for the down day. It's only one day, you did great! Hopefully they'll just get better.

Love the food dreams girls!

Dawn, I know nothing about hcg stuff, but thanks for the encouragement that the lower cal days will get better!

Kristin, thanks for helping us feel so welcome!

UD here and I must say that although I woke up starving yesterday, I wasn't hungry at all this morning. I love bagels and made myself half of one with some cream cheese. I was stuffed after eating it. (I normally have the whole one, of COURSE!) I just got back from helping out at my DD's school & helped myself to 2 small cc cookies. It is REALLY strange having carbs and supposedly "on plan". Maybe that's why I'm doing it? Fridays are always pizza night at my house, too. It's something that started when I was a kid and has carried on to my children as well. It should be interesting. Maybe I'll be stuffed with a piece. (if that's the case, I might just cry! Happy tears, that is

Librarygirl · 11-16-2012, 08:34 AM

Yes, Kristin, thank you for the welcome. I love the JUDDD BUDDDS!!!!

Flutter, you are doing so well. I hope my appetite keeps decreasing. I am quite hungry now, but I will wait until 1 pm (and later, because I'm doing a little grocery shopping at lunch) to eat something. I plan to eat rather light, if possible, lol. I want to cook cheeseburgers and fries for dinner. Plus, there's that wine.

Flutter · 11-16-2012, 09:44 AM

awww, thanks friend!

I'm not sure what I'm doing, but I'm glad it seems like I'm doing well. LOL! It is nice to feel my mood improved today, that's for sure.

Just finished with some yummy Wendy's chili & a side salad. I think I could live on that stuff.

Hopefully I am done eating until pizza tonight. Good golly, though, the carbs today. (shut up, flutter, shut up!)

Yum yum on your dinner plans! Wine, too, good for you! I try not to drink on pizza nights (helloooo heartburn!) but sometimes it's soooo tempting!

KeirasMom · 11-16-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Flutter

awww, thanks friend!

I'm not sure what I'm doing, but I'm glad it seems like I'm doing well. LOL! It is nice to feel my mood improved today, that's for sure.

Just finished with some yummy Wendy's chili & a side salad. I think I could live on that stuff.

Hopefully I am done eating until pizza tonight. Good golly, though, the carbs today. (shut up, flutter, shut up!)

Yum yum on your dinner plans! Wine, too, good for you! I try not to drink on pizza nights (helloooo heartburn!) but sometimes it's soooo tempting!

I DO live on Wendy's chili!

Flutter · 11-16-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KeirasMom

I DO live on Wendy's chili!

oooh, we are so soul sisters!!! I love me some Wendy's chili!!! Being UD, I got the LARGE, too!

Shari4 · 11-16-2012, 10:48 AM

Dawn, I LOVE your new avatar!!! Looking good girl!!!

KeirasMom · 11-16-2012, 10:50 AM

Thanks Shari!

Seabreezes · 11-16-2012, 11:28 AM

Yes, Dawn, you look really, really skinny! Not bad skinny, just nice and thin and healthy!

Carly · 11-16-2012, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Seabreezes

Yes, Dawn, you look really, really skinny! Not bad skinny, just nice and thin and healthy!

I second that!

KeirasMom · 11-16-2012, 04:08 PM

Gosh, all the love is going to my head.

you ladies!

Atira · 11-16-2012, 10:57 PM

Hello Ladies! My name is Atira and I've read through all your posts on this thread and visited Dr. Johnson's site. This WOE looks VERY interesting. I'm going to give it a whirl. I know low-carb works for me, and I'm happy eating that way most of the time, but after a couple of weeks I tend to go off track and gain back the weight I've lost. I think trying the alternating days sounds like a great way to fight boredom and still have great results. You've given me lots of ideas for DD menus. I already have my plan for tomorrow all worked out. Woo-hoo! Let's do this thing!

Kissa · 11-17-2012, 03:33 AM

Atira, as you can see we all try to help each other here. I love JUDDD and want the whole world to enjoy its benefits.

Have fun and post often, I am sure it helps.

LoCarbGal · 11-17-2012, 06:02 AM

Atira! Glad to have you join in the fun!

Carly · 11-17-2012, 06:11 AM

Atira! In my opinion you have just found the best WOE ever!

Flutter · 11-17-2012, 06:44 AM

Hey, Atira! Only started last week myself so I'm super new, too. Glad to meet someone else starting!

Atira · 11-17-2012, 09:23 AM

Thanks for the welcome, everyone. I went ahead last night and downloaded Dr. Johnson's book to my Kindle. Interesting reading. Makes sense. Like every first day of a new WOE, I am pumped. That makes me cautious. LOL. I guess I will see you ladies around the boards. Have a fabulous day!

mom23kids · 11-17-2012, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atira

Hello Ladies! My name is Atira and I've read through all your posts on this thread and visited Dr. Johnson's site. This WOE looks VERY interesting. I'm going to give it a whirl. I know low-carb works for me, and I'm happy eating that way most of the time, but after a couple of weeks I tend to go off track and gain back the weight I've lost. I think trying the alternating days sounds like a great way to fight boredom and still have great results. You've given me lots of ideas for DD menus. I already have my plan for tomorrow all worked out. Woo-hoo! Let's do this thing!

DesertGurl · 11-17-2012, 04:09 PM

Atira,

! You're gonna love it here!! Starting my 4th week myself and so far I can't think of a single reason to ever EVER stop doing this.

Good luck to you, you're gonna do great!

KTOWN28081 · 11-17-2012, 04:47 PM

Hi everyone,
I just finished my 2nd week today. I normally don't eat anything when I get up on my DD's. Then it seems I can just about go all day and be fine. Today, I ate shortly after I got up... That was a BIG mistake. I was hungry all day. Does anyone else do this? I could probably do a fast and be ok with it. On my last DD, I got up at 4:30, drank a cup of coffee (1 pkt of Splenda) and had a lot of water throughout the day.. I ate 2 pieces of low fat ham wrapped around a pickle for lunch and then 1/2 banana sandwich for supper. I felt really energized and in control of food. I just hope and pray my next DD (Monday), I can hold off and eat later in the day.

Kissa · 11-17-2012, 04:52 PM

Seems lots of folks have this issue. Not all, but lots.

I wait a long time before my first meal, often until the evening.

On the other hand some JUDDDs eat three or many, little meals and do fine. We are all different....

Atira · 11-17-2012, 10:09 PM

Hi gang. Just finished my first DD with a couple of pickles. Stayed right at 500 cals. I'm not big on shakes and bars so I ate mini meals of turkey, cucumbers, egg whites and so on. Kept a careful food diary. I did get hungry and a couple of times I felt kinda panicky, then I remembered that tomorrow I didn't have to restrict my eating and I regained control. Woo-hoo! Counting ahead, I'm glad to see Thanksgiving happens to fall on an up day, but the day before is my anniversary. I guess hubby and I will go out to eat a different day. Cheers everyone!

Kissa · 11-18-2012, 02:51 AM

I am delighted that Thanksgiving falls on an UD for you, Dr J says all Holidays are UDs.... Got to love him.

11-16-2012, 05:57 AM	#67
Librarygirl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,741 Gallery: Librarygirl Stats: HW 207/(JUDDD) 198/CW 180/GW 130 5'4 49 yo WOE: JUDDD Start Date: Low calorie 6/12 ; Low carb 9/12/ ; JUDDD 11/13/12	I had about 100 cals left to eat last night and I ate a small sweet potato and still felt completely empty, so later I couldn't resist my coconut fruit bar (120 cals). So, I definitely went over, but probably not more than 630ish. I forgive myself because this is so new and it was only my 2nd DD. I never thought I could go that low, so I feel like it's progress. I have to tell you guys something funny though. I had a vivid dream of eating dogfood!! I had it in a bowl and was eating it with a fork and was totally grossed out but kept eating it. Now THAT is a hunger dream!!! __________________ "Never give up on a dream just because of the length of time it will take to accomplish it. The time will pass anyway." I walk slowly, but I never walk backward.--Abe Lincoln *Cindy*

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11-15-2012, 03:38 PM	#62
Librarygirl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,741 Gallery: Librarygirl Stats: HW 207/(JUDDD) 198/CW 180/GW 130 5'4 49 yo WOE: JUDDD Start Date: Low calorie 6/12 ; Low carb 9/12/ ; JUDDD 11/13/12	Definitely going to try that next DD. I can't take many more of today's, lol.

11-15-2012, 03:42 PM	#63
Librarygirl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,741 Gallery: Librarygirl Stats: HW 207/(JUDDD) 198/CW 180/GW 130 5'4 49 yo WOE: JUDDD Start Date: Low calorie 6/12 ; Low carb 9/12/ ; JUDDD 11/13/12	I need an arsenal. I thought I was prepared today. I had pickled stuff, turkey, carrots, tomatoes and that chicken/cabbage thing. I just couldn't eat the tomatoes, and I only ate half of the chicken before I didn't want it. Don't know why I couldn't resist the (cocoa) almonds. I think I'll do better at home. It's difficult, to me, to do it at work where nibbling tends to keep boredom away, lol.

11-16-2012, 03:30 AM	#64
Joyjoy Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 1,687 Gallery: Joyjoy Stats: 150?/134/136 5'8" 50 yo WOE: JUDDD Start Date: 4-19-12	Cindy, Sara, Library, Flutter, it's wonderful reading your posts! And great to have you with us.

11-16-2012, 08:03 AM	#69
Flutter Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,388 Gallery: Flutter Stats: 190/144/135 5'4" 43yo WOE: SB/JUDDD Start Date: SB 2/05; JUDDD 11/12	Library, I'm so sorry your day went crummy yesterday! I was pretty grouchy myself, but TOM is approaching, too, so I ummm don't think that probably helped much. LOL! My poor family. I love how forgiving you are with yourself over not meeting your initial goal for the down day. It's only one day, you did great! Hopefully they'll just get better. Love the food dreams girls! Dawn, I know nothing about hcg stuff, but thanks for the encouragement that the lower cal days will get better! Kristin, thanks for helping us feel so welcome! UD here and I must say that although I woke up starving yesterday, I wasn't hungry at all this morning. I love bagels and made myself half of one with some cream cheese. I was stuffed after eating it. (I normally have the whole one, of COURSE!) I just got back from helping out at my DD's school & helped myself to 2 small cc cookies. It is REALLY strange having carbs and supposedly "on plan". Maybe that's why I'm doing it? Fridays are always pizza night at my house, too. It's something that started when I was a kid and has carried on to my children as well. It should be interesting. Maybe I'll be stuffed with a piece. (if that's the case, I might just cry! Happy tears, that is

11-16-2012, 08:34 AM	#70
Librarygirl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,741 Gallery: Librarygirl Stats: HW 207/(JUDDD) 198/CW 180/GW 130 5'4 49 yo WOE: JUDDD Start Date: Low calorie 6/12 ; Low carb 9/12/ ; JUDDD 11/13/12	Yes, Kristin, thank you for the welcome. I love the JUDDD BUDDDS!!!! Flutter, you are doing so well. I hope my appetite keeps decreasing. I am quite hungry now, but I will wait until 1 pm (and later, because I'm doing a little grocery shopping at lunch) to eat something. I plan to eat rather light, if possible, lol. I want to cook cheeseburgers and fries for dinner. Plus, there's that wine.

11-16-2012, 09:44 AM	#71
Flutter Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,388 Gallery: Flutter Stats: 190/144/135 5'4" 43yo WOE: SB/JUDDD Start Date: SB 2/05; JUDDD 11/12	awww, thanks friend! I'm not sure what I'm doing, but I'm glad it seems like I'm doing well. LOL! It is nice to feel my mood improved today, that's for sure. Just finished with some yummy Wendy's chili & a side salad. I think I could live on that stuff. Hopefully I am done eating until pizza tonight. Good golly, though, the carbs today. (shut up, flutter, shut up!) Yum yum on your dinner plans! Wine, too, good for you! I try not to drink on pizza nights (helloooo heartburn!) but sometimes it's soooo tempting!

11-16-2012, 10:48 AM	#74
Shari4 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Somewhere in Texas Posts: 875 Gallery: Shari4 Stats: 200/140.4/140 63yrs WOE: JUDDD Start Date: Started JUDDD: 9/24/12 @181	Dawn, I LOVE your new avatar!!! Looking good girl!!!

11-16-2012, 10:50 AM	#75
KeirasMom Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 7,308 Gallery: KeirasMom Stats: 277.6/155-159/165, 5'9", 40 y.o., Hypothyroid WOE: In Place of a Roadmap Start Date: Maintenance 1/23/13	Thanks Shari!

11-16-2012, 11:28 AM	#76
Seabreezes Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paradise Posts: 1,189 Gallery: Seabreezes Stats: 191/155/160 WOE: Low Carb ala JUDDD Start Date: Seems like forever - restart June '11	Yes, Dawn, you look really, really skinny! Not bad skinny, just nice and thin and healthy!

11-16-2012, 04:08 PM	#78
KeirasMom Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 7,308 Gallery: KeirasMom Stats: 277.6/155-159/165, 5'9", 40 y.o., Hypothyroid WOE: In Place of a Roadmap Start Date: Maintenance 1/23/13	Gosh, all the love is going to my head. you ladies!

11-16-2012, 10:57 PM	#79
Atira Junior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Battle Ground, WA Posts: 15 Gallery: Atira Stats: 257/251.8/150 WOE: Low Carb, trying JUDDD Start Date: 11/17/2012	Hello Ladies! My name is Atira and I've read through all your posts on this thread and visited Dr. Johnson's site. This WOE looks VERY interesting. I'm going to give it a whirl. I know low-carb works for me, and I'm happy eating that way most of the time, but after a couple of weeks I tend to go off track and gain back the weight I've lost. I think trying the alternating days sounds like a great way to fight boredom and still have great results. You've given me lots of ideas for DD menus. I already have my plan for tomorrow all worked out. Woo-hoo! Let's do this thing!

11-17-2012, 03:33 AM	#80
Kissa Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 16,464 Gallery: Kissa Stats: 184/124/126 5'3" Age 65 WOE: JUDDD/5:2 Start Date: 2001 Atkins -50 2011 JUDDD - 10	Atira, as you can see we all try to help each other here. I love JUDDD and want the whole world to enjoy its benefits. Have fun and post often, I am sure it helps.

11-17-2012, 06:02 AM	#81
LoCarbGal Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2,830 Gallery: LoCarbGal Stats: 318.5/207.5/140 5'4" 46 yrs WOE: Atkins 1/27/12 - 54.5 lbs: JUDDD 9/4/12 - 56.5 lbs	Atira! Glad to have you join in the fun!

11-17-2012, 06:11 AM	#82
Carly Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New York Posts: 4,152 Gallery: Carly Stats: 199/123.2/126.8 5'2" 36yrs Size 20/4P WOE: 5:2 to maintain Start Date: 2/21/12- Low carb (199lbs) 3/28/12 JUDDD (189lbs)	Atira! In my opinion you have just found the best WOE ever!

11-17-2012, 06:44 AM	#83
Flutter Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,388 Gallery: Flutter Stats: 190/144/135 5'4" 43yo WOE: SB/JUDDD Start Date: SB 2/05; JUDDD 11/12	Hey, Atira! Only started last week myself so I'm super new, too. Glad to meet someone else starting!

11-17-2012, 09:23 AM	#84
Atira Junior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Battle Ground, WA Posts: 15 Gallery: Atira Stats: 257/251.8/150 WOE: Low Carb, trying JUDDD Start Date: 11/17/2012	Thanks for the welcome, everyone. I went ahead last night and downloaded Dr. Johnson's book to my Kindle. Interesting reading. Makes sense. Like every first day of a new WOE, I am pumped. That makes me cautious. LOL. I guess I will see you ladies around the boards. Have a fabulous day!

11-17-2012, 04:09 PM	#86
DesertGurl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 4,839 Gallery: DesertGurl Stats: 257.4/229.4/140 WOE: JUDDD: 243.5; Atkins: 233.2 Start Date: JUDDD:10/28/12; Atkins:3/18/13	Atira, ! You're gonna love it here!! Starting my 4th week myself and so far I can't think of a single reason to ever EVER stop doing this. Good luck to you, you're gonna do great!

11-17-2012, 04:47 PM	#87
KTOWN28081 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NC Posts: 12 Gallery: KTOWN28081 Stats: 222/177/145 WOE: Low Carb/Now on JUDDD Start Date: Low Carb 1/2011, JUDDD 11/2012	Hi everyone, I just finished my 2nd week today. I normally don't eat anything when I get up on my DD's. Then it seems I can just about go all day and be fine. Today, I ate shortly after I got up... That was a BIG mistake. I was hungry all day. Does anyone else do this? I could probably do a fast and be ok with it. On my last DD, I got up at 4:30, drank a cup of coffee (1 pkt of Splenda) and had a lot of water throughout the day.. I ate 2 pieces of low fat ham wrapped around a pickle for lunch and then 1/2 banana sandwich for supper. I felt really energized and in control of food. I just hope and pray my next DD (Monday), I can hold off and eat later in the day.

11-17-2012, 04:52 PM	#88
Kissa Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 16,464 Gallery: Kissa Stats: 184/124/126 5'3" Age 65 WOE: JUDDD/5:2 Start Date: 2001 Atkins -50 2011 JUDDD - 10	Seems lots of folks have this issue. Not all, but lots. I wait a long time before my first meal, often until the evening. On the other hand some JUDDDs eat three or many, little meals and do fine. We are all different....

11-17-2012, 10:09 PM	#89
Atira Junior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Battle Ground, WA Posts: 15 Gallery: Atira Stats: 257/251.8/150 WOE: Low Carb, trying JUDDD Start Date: 11/17/2012	Hi gang. Just finished my first DD with a couple of pickles. Stayed right at 500 cals. I'm not big on shakes and bars so I ate mini meals of turkey, cucumbers, egg whites and so on. Kept a careful food diary. I did get hungry and a couple of times I felt kinda panicky, then I remembered that tomorrow I didn't have to restrict my eating and I regained control. Woo-hoo! Counting ahead, I'm glad to see Thanksgiving happens to fall on an up day, but the day before is my anniversary. I guess hubby and I will go out to eat a different day. Cheers everyone!

11-18-2012, 02:51 AM	#90
Kissa Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 16,464 Gallery: Kissa Stats: 184/124/126 5'3" Age 65 WOE: JUDDD/5:2 Start Date: 2001 Atkins -50 2011 JUDDD - 10	I am delighted that Thanksgiving falls on an UD for you, Dr J says all Holidays are UDs.... Got to love him.