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Old 10-20-2012, 07:33 AM   #1
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Can Someone Help Me?

I have been trying LC the last few days and while I KNOW the blahs do pass, I just cannot afford them. It hit me super hard yesterday and the day before. I tried to push through them but almost broke down crying last night. I just had no energy, my head was fuzzy, my body felt weird, and I just didn't want to do anything at all but sleep. I know it was induction flu. I know it doesn't last long, but like I said..I can't afford to feel this way. I have a job, an 8 year old with ADHD, and a house to keep up. I literally just wanted to sleep all day. When I was working I would catch myself starring off into space because I couldn't focus.

Long story short, I do know that I will lose on a LC diet. Maybe I'm lazy or something, but I just am not able to get through the first stage. I have been reading about JUDDD this morning and I think it might be a good fit for me and my lifestyle. No, I do not have the impression that it will be easy. I know it will take work and dedication. I am ready for that.

My question is: Is there a good day to start? Do you have to start on Monday? Is it UD/DD or can it be DD/UD?

I did the calculation thing on the website so I got my UD goals and my DD, and they seem pretty doable. I'd like to start today but I don't know which day/way to start. I hope that makes sense?
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Old 10-20-2012, 07:45 AM   #2
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You can start any day! Starting with an up day would be a good idea -- especially for you with how you are feeling right now -- because it will give you fuel to go into your first down day. I had a similar physical reaction when I started a low carb diet. It passes, but on JUDDD you only need to worry about calories, not carbs (unless you want to!), so you don't have to experience that at all. I think you'll like it here.
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Old 10-20-2012, 07:49 AM   #4
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Thank you! I've been lurking throughout the morning today and have found so much good info! I appreciate the responses!

So my rotations would go like Saturday-UD, Sunday-DD, Monday-UD, etc etc...Is this correct? This kind of rotation would be perfect!

Also, I do go to the gym with my husband. I don't work out as hard as he does, but I do try to get some cardio (about 40 minutes typically) and some time on the weight machines (focus on upper body mainly) is it recommended to cut that back? I'm sure it's will be a challenge on the DD, but is it possible to continue? Just on my DD ease back some?

Thanks again in advance!
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Whichever day you start on doesn't matter to JUDDD at all. Either way will work and either is fine... but... it may matter to you, from this standpoint: If your tummy isn't full to begin with, having eaten well the day before, a Down Day can be kind of hard to stick to, right at first. Just from that standpoint, we usually suggest that somebody do a good solid Up Day first. That will give them fuel to go into their first DD well nourished.

In the beginning most of us find DDs somewhat hard. Our bodies have been used to eating quite a few calories every day. It takes a bit of re-tuning for our brain/stomach connection to learn the new feeding schedule. But after awhile, our brains/tummies don't signal much hunger on Down Days anymore, making them pretty easy to do. Your body will adapt.

And the Up Days are So..Much..FUN!!!!!

Hope you're going to join us here. This is a great group and JUDDD is a great plan.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:01 AM   #6
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Thank you! I've been lurking throughout the morning today and have found so much good info! I appreciate the responses!

So my rotations would go like Saturday-UD, Sunday-DD, Monday-UD, etc etc...Is this correct? This kind of rotation would be perfect!

Also, I do go to the gym with my husband. I don't work out as hard as he does, but I do try to get some cardio (about 40 minutes typically) and some time on the weight machines (focus on upper body mainly) is it recommended to cut that back? I'm sure it's will be a challenge on the DD, but is it possible to continue? Just on my DD ease back some?

Thanks again in advance!
You don't need to cut back on exercise at all. In fact, studies are now showing us that those workouts *in a fasted state* (that's a DD for us) will be more productive for body fat loss. The only thing I do when I exercise on DDs is to eat a very small portion of protein after. But it's a very small bit of chicken or fish, or maybe a couple of egg whites.

I haven't noticed any difference in my exercise, whether it's on a DD or an UD. (Either day, I'd rather be lying back on the couch, reading a good book. LOL)
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:05 AM   #7
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Again, such a great response! I appreciate it! I am glad to hear that it's possible to keep my exercise up! LOL We just paid for a 2 year membership and I don't wanna let that go to waste! :P

I have a feeling I will be able to stick with this a bit better than strict low carb.

Thank you again for the answers!
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:49 AM   #8
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HIYE! Not much I can add to what some of our experts have told you, but I did want to wish you luck as you start this WOE. You'll really love it once you've gotten used to the rotation and made it through your first few DDs. I didn't have an awful time at all with DDs at first, but it does get even easier as you get used to it. Good luck and hope to hear lots from you!
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I have been trying to plan out my day on an online tracker..and I'm just like shocked! LOL it's an upday today and unless I did something wrong my goal is 3340 calories! I have put an ENORMOUS amount of food in my log and it's only up to about 1400! LOL I'm not sure how I'm gonna do that!
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Hi Hellin, you have it all here already. I would certainly recommend a good UD to help you get you bounce back and then your first 500 calorie DD.

I believe most of us find exercise no issue at all on the DDs or UDs. We have JUDDD buds who run Marathons and, while they may eat differently for while before they race, they do fine.

Don't be surprised if you see an initial gain as you reintroduce the carbs. It will soon go.
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Old 10-20-2012, 09:17 AM   #11
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Hi there! I just wanted to let you know that 3340 does NOT sound right! Unless you're 6'7", and a 17 year old boy that runs marathons.

The calculator has choices for Male/Female, and then height and weight are choices between cm and inches, and kg and lbs. Make sure you choose the correct choices on everything and see where you come out. Most of us use "little or no exercise" just to be on the conservative side, even if we do work out regularly.

Hope this helps!
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Old 10-20-2012, 09:19 AM   #12
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Hmm not sure what I did wrong but now I'm 2192 for UDs and 438 for DDs. LOL I'm glad you pointed that out because that sounded like a LOT! LOL
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I do go to the gym about 3-5 days a week depending on schedule and like I said before I try to get 40 minutes of cardio and SOME weight training in. So I did use the "moderate" exercise selection.
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Oh I'm glad that helped. You would have had a very full and contented belly at the end of the day, but been kicking yourself for all those extra calories.
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Well spotted LCG! Sometimes people don't enter in pounds or inches as the site is strangely set for metric.

Most of us enter the little or no exercise option. As Pat always says, why would you work so hard to burn off extra calories, only to eat them back right away?

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I appreciate it! I was actually kind of worried my tummy would explode if I ate all those calories! LOL Thank you for catching that!

So 2192 UDs, 438 DDs sounds about right?
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Old 10-20-2012, 09:26 AM   #17
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Well spotted LCG! Sometimes people don't enter in pounds or inches as the site is strangely set for metric.

Most of us enter the little or no exercise option. As Pat always says, why would you work so hard to burn off extra calories, only to eat them back right away?
This makes sense. I didn't think of that.
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I'm not sure. My UD calories are around 2200, but I'm a lot heavier than you are. Do I remember you saying you are in your 30's and 5'0"? I would be surprised if your calories are almost as high as mine, although you are younger.
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You don't need to cut back on exercise at all. In fact, studies are now showing us that those workouts *in a fasted state* (that's a DD for us) will be more productive for body fat loss. The only thing I do when I exercise on DDs is to eat a very small portion of protein after. But it's a very small bit of chicken or fish, or maybe a couple of egg whites.

I haven't noticed any difference in my exercise, whether it's on a DD or an UD. (Either day, I'd rather be lying back on the couch, reading a good book. LOL)
Lol I'm with you on the couch with a book. I was working out last night and my bf was on the couch putting a computer together and I must have gave him a look and he's like "what'd I do" I said its not fair I have to do this and you don't have to do anything! Lol
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Is that couch big enough for one more? Sounds nice. I need to make time to read this weekend. You've given me the bug.
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Maybe she doesn't have the calculator set on 20% im 37. 5'10 and 180 and mines lower than 2000
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Okay after reading all yours posts and suggestions I believe I've finally gotten it! LOL

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I have it set to Little to No Exercise (although that is a fib lol)
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20% Weight Loss Mode...

I think that I can do that!
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Also thank you for your patience with me!
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Good thought, Shanan. Sorry you don't have nearly as many calories to play with, Melissa! But it does sound doable. Lots of us eat up to 500 calories on DDs in the beginning, and can lower later if need be.

And don't worry about your questions! We all have them, all the time! Just glad you've joined us
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That's great Melissa, but remember, for your first 2 weeks you should be fine on 500 cal DDs. This is what DrJ calls the induction phase, it is just to help us get used to eating so much less on a DD.

Some people lose pretty well on the 500 and don't have to drop lower. It is all done to the individual. I am glad we got that sorted though, or we might have seen you gaining rather than losing.
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It sounded good at first but then I got a little freaked out. I don't think even with a binge I could get that many calories in my face! :P So I'm glad it went down to something more doable! LOL
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Thank you! I've been lurking throughout the morning today and have found so much good info! I appreciate the responses!

So my rotations would go like Saturday-UD, Sunday-DD, Monday-UD, etc etc...Is this correct? This kind of rotation would be perfect!

Also, I do go to the gym with my husband. I don't work out as hard as he does, but I do try to get some cardio (about 40 minutes typically) and some time on the weight machines (focus on upper body mainly) is it recommended to cut that back? I'm sure it's will be a challenge on the DD, but is it possible to continue? Just on my DD ease back some?
Thanks again in advance!
As a general rule I have more energy on DDs and frequently feel like doing exercise more, although due to physical limitations my exercise is not intense or vigorous per se. Many here work out just as hard regardless of UD/DD.

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Okay after reading all yours posts and suggestions I believe I've finally gotten it! LOL

UD: 1697
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I have it set to Little to No Exercise (although that is a fib lol)
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20% Weight Loss Mode...

I think that I can do that!
That sounds just right!
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On your early DDs plan some 50 calorie snacks. Then if you find you need more than 500 calories, eat a snack. It took me about four DDs to get down to 500 calories. After which I never looked back. The important point is, you may not have any hunger at all, or the hunger may not be bad - many handle low DDs from the very beginning. BUT if you decide you need more, that is alright. Eat more in small portions...do not lift the pantry and pour it into your mouth!!!
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Eat more in small portions...do not lift the pantry and pour it into your mouth!!!
I used to have those days from time to time before JUDDD. Not anymore though. Love JUDDD!
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