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Old 10-08-2012, 06:50 AM   #1
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Advice Please

I haven't lost any weight since 9/11. I always stay below my 500 calories on down days and do my best to count on up days also. My up day calorie limit is 2450. I'm sure I have gone over this number on occasion, but in general I stay way below it. I always keep track of my calories...if I go to a restaurant, I look up the nutritional information and with packaged foods, it's right there. Anything I make at home, I try to figure the calorie count of the recipe. Most of the time, however, I average 1700-2000 calories on up days. I've been JUDDDing since 6/26.

So I haven't lost anything in 4 weeks. No, I haven't been measuring. I've done it before and I find it difficult to measure myself consistently without assistance.

Am I eating too many calories or too few calories on up days? What do I do? Lower the up days, raise the up days...what? I'm getting very frustrated here with this constant bounce around the 300 lb. mark.

Thanks for any advice!
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Old 10-08-2012, 07:22 AM   #2
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I haven't lost any weight since 9/11. I always stay below my 500 calories on down days and do my best to count on up days also. My up day calorie limit is 2450. I'm sure I have gone over this number on occasion, but in general I stay way below it. I always keep track of my calories...if I go to a restaurant, I look up the nutritional information and with packaged foods, it's right there. Anything I make at home, I try to figure the calorie count of the recipe. Most of the time, however, I average 1700-2000 calories on up days. I've been JUDDDing since 6/26.

So I haven't lost anything in 4 weeks. No, I haven't been measuring. I've done it before and I find it difficult to measure myself consistently without assistance.

Am I eating too many calories or too few calories on up days? What do I do? Lower the up days, raise the up days...what? I'm getting very frustrated here with this constant bounce around the 300 lb. mark.

Thanks for any advice!
I think you should stick to the numbers on the calculator, religiously, for a month and see what happens. You're eating less on average than I do, and you have more to lose. It could be as simple as you aren't getting enough to get out of stress response. When I started, I ate exactly what the calculator gave me, somewhere around 2400 if I remember correctly. I counted both UDs and DDs and got as close as I could to both numbers, without going over.
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Old 10-08-2012, 07:24 AM   #3
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I think you should stick to the numbers on the calculator, religiously, for a month and see what happens. You're eating less on average than I do, and you have more to lose. It could be as simple as you aren't getting enough to get out of stress response. When I started, I ate exactly what the calculator gave me, somewhere around 2400 if I remember correctly. I counted both UDs and DDs and got as close as I could to both numbers, without going over.
Thank you Dawn...I will try that!

Also, congratulations on your awesome loss...you have done FANTASTIC!
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Old 10-08-2012, 08:53 AM   #4
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Yes, a surprising number of folks find they really have to eat up to their UD calories. Not everyone I admit, but more than you might think.

As for the DDs, the lower numbers are hard I know. But give it another month if you can, just as Dawn suggests, before you shake things up too much. Although, changing some of your food choices is often a good idea too, just to give your body a little surprise.

You are doing great and I know how frustrated you must feel. Keep on keeping on,and why not allow yourself a little pampering to remind you how well you have done.
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:24 AM   #5
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You're getting good advice from the pros here, in Dawn and Kissa. I agree that it's important to eat up to your UD calories. It seems to be the secret.

Hang in there! When your body finally releases the weight, watch out. It might be dramatic. And then you'll be
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I agree with Dawn. Give it a month. I find measuring tricky too, especially since now I have a bunch of loose skin, but I always have a pair of pants that are snug as a way to help measure inches lost. As we say around here the pants don't lie. I offen go down sizes when the scale isn't moving. Today the scale showed a big bounce up, but I'm wearing my smallest pants
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Thanks so much for the advice.

2500 calories is really a LOT of food...lol. I think that I don't intentionally try to stay below that number, it just sort of works out that way. I mean I could eat Big Macs 3 times a day and get to that number easily, but I don't want to do that. So I am really going to focus on getting all those calories in, even if it hurts...lol.
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I think you should stick to the numbers on the calculator, religiously, for a month and see what happens. You're eating less on average than I do, and you have more to lose. It could be as simple as you aren't getting enough to get out of stress response. When I started, I ate exactly what the calculator gave me, somewhere around 2400 if I remember correctly. I counted both UDs and DDs and got as close as I could to both numbers, without going over.
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Thanks so much for the advice.

2500 calories is really a LOT of food...lol. I think that I don't intentionally try to stay below that number, it just sort of works out that way. I mean I could eat Big Macs 3 times a day and get to that number easily, but I don't want to do that. So I am really going to focus on getting all those calories in, even if it hurts...lol.
Consider a low carb ice cream sundae to top off your evening. With nuts. And peanut butter. And whipped cream. And maybe mascarpone. You can get 800 healthy fat calories into you pretty easily that way.
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A nice slice of cheesecake will get you 600-800 calories in no time flat.
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I agree eating that much on UD is a tough job. But really, you may need to do it. I stalled for almost two months because I couldn't remember to eat 1600 cals/UD

AND, if that does not break the stall, your next step is even more counter-intuitive: try raising your DD calories to 600 at least two DDs/week. Some of us seem to need more calories to lose. I did not have to drop below 500/DD until I dropped below 135.

JUDDD kind of throws common knowledge about weight loss out the window, doesn't it?
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:45 AM   #12
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JUDDD kind of throws common knowledge about weight loss out the window, doesn't it?
This sentence is gold!
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Thanks for all the great advice. Starting this past Monday, I am working toward getting in all those UD calories...it's not easy! So far, no real change in weight. I hope it doesn't take a month to see some results!
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Karen, come to my house. I'll show you how to get'em in by 11am.
Have you guys never eaten salami? Brie? Steak? Peanut butter? Pistachios? Smoked salmon and cream cheese? Butter?
In my next life, I will be one of you people, you I-can't-seem-to-get-the-calories-in people.
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I'm working on it...lol. Almonds for snack, I also have Pepperoni for a snack.

I don't like Avocado but I wish I did.
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Karen, come to my house. I'll show you how to get'em in by 11am.
Have you guys never eaten salami? Brie? Steak? Peanut butter? Pistachios? Smoked salmon and cream cheese? Butter?
In my next life, I will be one of you people, you I-can't-seem-to-get-the-calories-in people.
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And after Kristin's house, come to mine. Between the two of us, we can show you the ropes. I am not trying to minimize the problem that people have with getting in their calories, I just cannot conceptualize it.

I do agree with the other wise sages on here about staying as close as you can to your up day numbers. Good luck!
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Getting in the calories gets pretty easy once you get over the diet mentality. I'm starting to have to watch it and it used to be hard.
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Honey Roasted Cashews - I could eat thousands of calories of those, no problem!
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So I've been trying mightily to get all my UD calories in since Monday...I know this is only Thursday, but I'm down from 300.4 to 298.8 today. Is it too soon to think this might be working??
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Claim it! You may still bounce around before it settles but just keep working the rotations and you will get past it and keep on going.
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Karen, I agree. Claim it.
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I like this! Definitely claim it...
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That's great Karen!
I'm on a DD and all those lovely UD suggestions are driving me nuts

NUTS - aaaargh, now I torture myself!
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How could I have forgotten about CASHEWS??? I didn't eat them on low carb because of their carb count but now...look out.
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297 today...3rd UD today of getting all those UD calories.
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