Sleeping issues~~~~

SICCHI · 10-04-2012, 08:34 PM

Ok, so I've been JUDDING for about 5 weeks now, with little results. I started at about 149 at the start of September. Then started October at 148 after a huge weekend but I'm around 146-147 today. I'm not overweight but my BMI is around 24 and I am 5ft5. So apart from the very, very slow loss, I had found sleeping on DD nights incredibly difficult. I would get to sleep at 10 - wake at 12 - fall asleep again around 2 - then in and out till 6 (when I have to wake for work).
Anyhoo, this week I have seriously struggled with my DD's (eating 700-800

). I don't know if this is because of the massive w/e, or TOM coming next week, whatever. But.... I have been sleeping again!!

Does anybody eat more than their recommended DD cal? Mine are meant to be 400, but ya know, I love my sleep. I am worried my weight loss will never happen eating this much on the DD. Would 700/1700 work as well as 400/2000?? Anyone??

stepinthyme · 10-05-2012, 04:27 AM

Hi SICCHI,
I try to stick to 500 calories or less on my DD's. However, sometimes I can tell about an hour before bedtime that I'm not going to be able to sleep. When that happens, I have a 100 calorie snack--for me, it's usually a spoonful of peanut butter or cream cheese, and that really seems to do the trick for me. You'll have to experiment and see what works best for you. I suspect other JB's will jump in with more ideas, as I think many of us have run into this before...

gotsomeold · 10-05-2012, 04:49 AM

I started with a recommended DD of 387. I started at 500 cal/DD and pretty much stayed there. If I was uncomfortably hungry late in the day I went over by 50 or 100 (pb rocks!). If I wasn't hungry, I didn't eat. From 175 to 137 that worked just fine. From 137 to 128 I found I needed to keep at least two DDs a week at or under 400 (the third could be 5006 - 600).

I never had trouble falling asleep.

Some metabolisms actually seem to need more cals on DD or they stall. Since weight loss is so

for you, and since by not sleeping your body is signalling it is under stress, I encourage you to try 500 - 600 cal/DDs for a few weeks.

sterlinggirl · 10-05-2012, 08:32 AM

Well one of the important parts of weight loss in any woe i have been reading up on is SLEEP! There is a "magic" window of time in which the body is in repair mode while we sleep and if we dont get that much needed sleep we can see it result as no loss on the scale or even a small gain..I dont know all the techncal stuff on this subject, im sure YAM YAM or even Nancy here knows what i am reffering to.. SO i would make sure that if lack of food for you is causing your sleep issues i would do my best to save some of those caloires for when you need it most, or even up them like the girls said with a 100 cal choice to get you into the sleep mode ~

Dakini · 10-05-2012, 10:27 AM

Sicchi, I'm not sure what to suggest in terms of calories to help you sleep, but there are some yogic tricks that can help.

Relax your tongue. Usually, you'll find your tongue is pressed to the roof of your mouth, let it rest along the floor of your mouth. By relaxing your tongue, you'll help quiet the internal dialog in your mind that sometimes chatters so much that you can't sleep.

Prolong your exhalations. Let your exhalations become twice as long as your inhalations. Once you can do that comfortably, let your exhalation become three times as long. This triggers an automatic relaxation response to your body and should help your drift off to sleep.

10-04-2012, 08:34 PM	#1
SICCHI Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: MELBORNE, AUS Posts: 341 Gallery: SICCHI Stats: 68KG/63.9/59 WOE: JUDDDD Start Date: 29/8/12	Sleeping issues~~~~ Ok, so I've been JUDDING for about 5 weeks now, with little results. I started at about 149 at the start of September. Then started October at 148 after a huge weekend but I'm around 146-147 today. I'm not overweight but my BMI is around 24 and I am 5ft5. So apart from the very, very slow loss, I had found sleeping on DD nights incredibly difficult. I would get to sleep at 10 - wake at 12 - fall asleep again around 2 - then in and out till 6 (when I have to wake for work). Anyhoo, this week I have seriously struggled with my DD's (eating 700-800 ). I don't know if this is because of the massive w/e, or TOM coming next week, whatever. But.... I have been sleeping again!! Does anybody eat more than their recommended DD cal? Mine are meant to be 400, but ya know, I love my sleep. I am worried my weight loss will never happen eating this much on the DD. Would 700/1700 work as well as 400/2000?? Anyone?? Last edited by SICCHI; 10-04-2012 at 08:36 PM..

10-05-2012, 04:27 AM	#2
stepinthyme Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 176 Gallery: stepinthyme Stats: 289/238.6/190 - 5'8" WOE: Low Carb/Counting Calories Start Date: Restart Sept 2012	Hi SICCHI, I try to stick to 500 calories or less on my DD's. However, sometimes I can tell about an hour before bedtime that I'm not going to be able to sleep. When that happens, I have a 100 calorie snack--for me, it's usually a spoonful of peanut butter or cream cheese, and that really seems to do the trick for me. You'll have to experiment and see what works best for you. I suspect other JB's will jump in with more ideas, as I think many of us have run into this before... Last edited by stepinthyme; 10-05-2012 at 04:28 AM.. Reason: Clarification

10-05-2012, 04:49 AM	#3
gotsomeold Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Asheville, NC / Marietta, Ga Posts: 3,287 Gallery: gotsomeold Stats: 175/127.6/GOAL at 128, size six fits! 5'4, 60yo WOE: JUDDD, PHD Start Date: LC/EFGT - 9/15/11, JUDDD - 1/1/12	I started with a recommended DD of 387. I started at 500 cal/DD and pretty much stayed there. If I was uncomfortably hungry late in the day I went over by 50 or 100 (pb rocks!). If I wasn't hungry, I didn't eat. From 175 to 137 that worked just fine. From 137 to 128 I found I needed to keep at least two DDs a week at or under 400 (the third could be 5006 - 600). I never had trouble falling asleep. Some metabolisms actually seem to need more cals on DD or they stall. Since weight loss is so for you, and since by not sleeping your body is signalling it is under stress, I encourage you to try 500 - 600 cal/DDs for a few weeks. __________________ - Nancy GOAL 10/3/12 Still at goal 2/6/13 JUDDD cares about calories. JUDDD does not care what you eat. Your body probably does. Combining JUDDD rotations with PHD foods got me to goal with greatly improved health (and a drive to boogie-boogie-boogie all night long).

10-05-2012, 08:32 AM	#4
sterlinggirl Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Midland. Michigan Posts: 1,911 Gallery: sterlinggirl Stats: 225/166.8 5'9 46 age 155 End WOE: 4-2013 Searching for new WOE/JUDDD Start Date: Jan 2012. Name Kimberly	Well one of the important parts of weight loss in any woe i have been reading up on is SLEEP! There is a "magic" window of time in which the body is in repair mode while we sleep and if we dont get that much needed sleep we can see it result as no loss on the scale or even a small gain..I dont know all the techncal stuff on this subject, im sure YAM YAM or even Nancy here knows what i am reffering to.. SO i would make sure that if lack of food for you is causing your sleep issues i would do my best to save some of those caloires for when you need it most, or even up them like the girls said with a 100 cal choice to get you into the sleep mode ~ __________________ Kimberly 60# Gone .. Searching for how i will lose the last 10 vanity pounds and keep it off ~

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10-05-2012, 10:27 AM	#5
Dakini Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,694 Gallery: Dakini	Sicchi, I'm not sure what to suggest in terms of calories to help you sleep, but there are some yogic tricks that can help. Relax your tongue. Usually, you'll find your tongue is pressed to the roof of your mouth, let it rest along the floor of your mouth. By relaxing your tongue, you'll help quiet the internal dialog in your mind that sometimes chatters so much that you can't sleep. Prolong your exhalations. Let your exhalations become twice as long as your inhalations. Once you can do that comfortably, let your exhalation become three times as long. This triggers an automatic relaxation response to your body and should help your drift off to sleep.