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Old 10-04-2012, 09:08 AM   #1
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13 Weeks on JUDDD -- And I'm Chill ;)

Today I weighed in at 265 for a total of 0 lbs lost this week, but 21 lbs on JUDDD and 25 lbs lost overall at a pace of 1.6 lbs a week.

So how do I feel about having lost 0 lbs this week? I FEEL GREAT! Do you know why? Because not only am I still at a lower weight than the day I got married almost two decades ago, I was also pretty much off plan all week. I had five nights of social engagements in a row, only one of which could be wrestled into a maintenance level Down Day. They were pretty much all Up Days.

And I gained nothing. MUHAHAHA.

So, for those of you considering JUDDD, here are the upsides and downsides.

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Most Flexible Diet Ever. This week, I was a panelist at the Baltimore Book Festival. In fact, I served on eight different panels over the course of three days. I was surrounded by delicious food. Spiced cinnamon almonds, sesame noodles, fried dough, fruit smoothies, steak on a stick, etc. And even if I held out against the carnival feast, I had dinners scheduled each night at restaurants where there was nary a salad to be found. On Weight Watchers, I'd have had no idea what to eat and felt guilty and miserable the whole time. On Low Carb, I'd have never been able to use my willpower against rice and na'an bread at an Indian restaurant. Pretty much, I would have failed. And that failure would have turned into a cycle of recrimination and guilt. Which would have turned into more eating and more weight gain. None of that happened. In fact, I didn't even worry it would happen. I knew I would work my rotations if I could and not worry about it if I couldn't. I've said this before, but it feels true in a way it never has before: I am losing weight while living my life! And on JUDDD that does not mean having to convince myself that food, feasting and festivities are not some of the best things about living life. I've never felt this way on any WOE before. It's so amazing, I think I might cry.

Easy to Get Back On the Wagon. So I fell off plan for a few days. The moment life was back in my control, I did a great Down Day. No stressing. No guilt. No recriminations. And weirdly, no fear. I had complete confidence that I could live my life and JUDDD would be there for me.

Big Changes. Down days are suddenly not just easier, but much easier. It is starting to become the norm that I start the day with bulletproof coffee and need nothing else. Now, before you new JUDDDers roll your eyes at me and think I'm nothing like you, please realize that I did nothing but ***** and moan about hunger for the first few weeks on JUDDD. In fact, I even had to defend myself against those who did not believe I was having hunger pains. I was. So I am the poster child for never believing that DDs were going to get easier. Now, hunger still registers, but it's an entirely different animal. I used to either be in pain on DDs or very fragile. Whatever raging hormones in my body used to make hunger cramp my stomach and ache and burn....those are gone. But now, even when my stomach grumbles, I feel very calm and strong. Not fragile at all. I have even considered whether or not I might be capable of two DDs in a row. I might crash and burn, of course, if I were to try such a thing. But never in my life before did I ever suspect I had it in me. I'm starting to like the challenge of pushing myself--and I find this bewildering. I'm like a super heroine!!! (Wonder Woman, to be exact, for those who enjoyed my latest romance novel.)

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Insomnia. What the heck is going on? Is this evidence of that mysterious skinny gene thing kicking in? I wanted energetic Down Days but not at 4am!!! I don't know if it's just that I've been working so hard lately and I'm an obsessive. Certainly, I have messed up my sleep schedule. But lately, not even melatonin is turning my brain off at night. (Is this the part of those JUDDD studies where the female mice got smarter but stopped sleeping? I'm not sure if I'm any smarter, but I must have sleep.)

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Old 10-04-2012, 09:15 AM   #2
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Those are all wonderful upsides! I'm so happy for you!

The insomnia thing: I have no idea if it's JUDDD related or not. I actually sleep better on JUDDD than I ever did before. I still have insomnia, but it's much less frequent and doesn't go on for nights on end. I hope you figure yours out. I cheat and take Benadryl every night, then read for a bit, and it helps.
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A very positive motivating post! As for the insomnia, I have not experienced that, thank heaven. I hope it goes away!

You are doing great and I am so happy you have found the lifetime plan that works for you!
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Most Flexible Diet Ever. Writers spend half of our time in the writing cave and the other half traveling and doing all sorts of social things to promote our work. This week, I was a panelist at the Baltimore Book Festival. In fact, I served on eight different panels over the course of three days. I was surrounded by delicious food. Spiced cinnamon almonds, sesame noodles, fried dough, fruit smoothies, steak on a stick, etc. And even if I held out against the carnival feast, I had dinners scheduled each night at restaurants where there was nary a salad to be found. On Weight Watchers, I'd have had no idea what to eat and felt guilty and miserable the whole time. On Low Carb, I'd have never been able to use my willpower against rice and na'an bread at an Indian restaurant. Pretty much, I would have failed. And that failure would have turned into a cycle of recrimination and guilt. Which would have turned into more eating and more weight gain. None of that happened. In fact, I didn't even worry it would happen. I knew I would work my rotations if I could and not worry about it if I couldn't. I've said this before, but it feels true in a way it never has before: I am losing weight while living my life! And on JUDDD that does not mean having to convince myself that food, feasting and festivities are not some of the best things about living life. I've never felt this way on any WOE before. It's so amazing, I think I might cry.
THIS. This is my life, pretty much. And I had the very same issues with WW and Lowcarb. . . over and over and over.

Today is 8 weeks for me, and I'm down 11 lbs. No, it's not speedy, and I can tell TOMs are going to be big slowdowns for me, not to mention travel.

But the big deal is that I have HUNG IN with it for 8 weeks and I'm not ready to stop. Normally, I would have dropped 5-6 lbs, then totally blown the plan after about 3 weeks and gained 10.

Nothing would make me happier than to be so satisfied with this that I'm willing to make it a lifetime commitment.

Congratulations on working your way through the fear!


I know nothing about the sleeplessness. I have work-related anxiety issues and take a small dose of Klonopin every night, so if I'm having sleep problems from the food plan, they're being masked.
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I remembered last week you said this week was going to be food intensive. So, when I saw your weight I cheered.

And I am glad you have wrestled hunger to a stand-still! I consider DD calm to be a huge benefit of JUDDD. Have you reached the stage where, in the midst of gourmet plenty and happy companions, you find yourself wishing tomorrow could be a nice, calm DD? Not for the weight control particularly, but just for the calm and the simple flavors.

Sleep? Nope. If anything JUDDD has improved my sleep. Oh, I still get up early and, where stress lurks so also does insomnia. But overall I sleep like a two-year old or a kitten: play-play-play-zzzzzzzzzzzzz. (My remaining cat, adopted when she was a catlet, used to attack my foot under the covers for a few minutes then fall asleep with my sheet-draped big toe in her mouth. Golly, that was cute!)
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I did not "lose" weight. I evicted it. It is gone and it ain't coming back!

JUDDD cares about calories. JUDDD does not care what you eat. Your body probably does.

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As always it is such a joy to read your weekly update, especially when you have had such a great week.

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I am losing weight while living my life! And on JUDDD that does not mean having to convince myself that food, feasting and festivities are not some of the best things about living life. I've never felt this way on any WOE before. It's so amazing, I think I might cry.
From your lips to God's ears! This is just how I feel about JUDDD too.

No sleep issues for me, so can't really help, though I always suggest a sleeping mask for complete dark.

Nancy, I so agree about the calm JUDDD days, I am enjoying one now.

Keep on keeping on lovely lady.

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Stephanie! Do you have any idea how many people around the world wake up thinking, "It's Thursday! Time for Steph's weekly update!" Do you have any idea how much good kharma surrounds you???
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I am losing weight while living my life! And on JUDDD that does not mean having to convince myself that food, feasting and festivities are not some of the best things about living life. I've never felt this way on any WOE before. It's so amazing, I think I might cry.
This right here is what I love THE MOST! OMG! I feel the same way. Thank you. Wonderful post!!!
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:37 PM   #10
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Bravo!!!!!!!!!
Talk about a woman transformed. Or revealed. Or something.
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We should find all the titles of Stephanie's status reports and put them together as a synopsis.

Linda (Beeb) had some great ones. Her journey in titles was something like:
Does this really work?
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And on that note, i sure do miss Linda~
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Really, yes. But I think she is very happy planning her wedding, it must be any day now.
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Has your insomnia coincided with your bulletproof coffee habit?

I *have* to eat breakfast, with at least 20-25g protein, in order to sleep.
(Fasting can affect cortisol production, which can keep us awake.)
I have done much experimenting, because I *wanted* to skip breakfast, I *wanted* to do IF/Fast 5/JUDDD...but I can't have insomnia. I just can't. It gets worse and worse for me, to the point of only getting 20 minutes of sleep...this can lead to depression and irritability and overeating and falling asleep while driving...!!!

If the trend continues, we have a couple threads going on circadian rhythm and insomnia...if anybody wants the links, let me know.

I hope you sleep well tonight, Steph!
Thanks for the update...I really look forward to it every week!
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Stephanie! Do you have any idea how many people around the world wake up thinking, "It's Thursday! Time for Steph's weekly update!" Do you have any idea how much good kharma surrounds you???
Certainly is true for me! I am glad you enjoyed your week Stephanie.
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I believe Linda's wedding is 10/6 - day after tomorrow. We should have a moment of silence (fingers off the keyboard!) in honor of the occasion.

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Thanks Nancy. I agree we must find a way to celebrate Linda special day.
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Steph I'm so pleased and yes, I remember the early days with hunger pain and fretting about being so hungry. I know it will be any week now when you will start to look forward to the simplicity of DDs that are both full of energy and serene at the same time.
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OMG OMG OMG!

YAY!!! WTG Steph!

1) as usual, I totally get it. You're even inspiring me to try the coffee, even though I'm basically allergic to caffeine... but I still want to try it b/c of YOUR success

2) I agree, i want to get all these together for my DH to read, he had his 3rd DD today (of course, he's just fine. men!)

3) Oh, it's Thursdays? I was actually looking for this for the past 2 days Now at least I'll know.

4) WTG on not gaining at your work thing! I've not managed that yet, but I agree about loving the freedom and lack of guilt...

5) and... the ease and confidence of going right into a DD, knowing that you are not depriving yourself FOREVER from something delicious, just for rightnow, but tomorrow, or next week, or on vacation, or whatever-- you can have that one thing.

Finally-- I know that feeling of wanting to do 2 DDs in a row. I'm worried however, about totally blowing it, and then totally blowing everything. Of the mentality-- if a DD is good, 2 DD is better. But I think he says in the book it's not necessary (someone? yes?) so I've not done it yet.
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So happy you stuck with it Steph! Can't wait to see what new "decade" of numbers you jump into next!

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I love reading your updates, Steph. This one stands out because you are so, dare I say, calm. Conquering that set point was huge and now you are on your way to a new decade. Inspirational!
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It only took me 13 weeks to pick up on the 'Thursday' pattern. Okay, okay, last week someone mentioned the pattern and I had my ah-ha moment. There is a pattern?

Dr J says, on the DD, the average metabolism has a 40 hour where fasting/very low cal is productive. Since every metabolism is unique, I am all about trying two DDs in a row (and many other experiments). It might speed up weight loss or it might not.

Because my family emergencies tend to fall on UDs - is that weird or what? - I have unintentionally had 2 DDs in a row several times. I was busy, so the second day was nbd. But, it made no difference in my rate of weight loss - even the time I ate UD - DD - DD - UD - DD - DD - UD -DD - UD - DD - DD I lost 1.5 pounds at the end of the week.

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Thanks Nancy, it gives us all hope.
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WTG Steph! So glad you came through the extra food week feeling confident and in control.

The danger of 2 dd's in a row would be that your body would not come out of the stress response, and rather than releasing weight, would actually want to hold on to it due to the famine it perceived. Best just to keep the rotations going. Although, trying it just to see wouldn't hurt anything long term if you were of a mind to do it.
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Those are all wonderful upsides! I'm so happy for you!

The insomnia thing: I have no idea if it's JUDDD related or not. I actually sleep better on JUDDD than I ever did before. I still have insomnia, but it's much less frequent and doesn't go on for nights on end. I hope you figure yours out.
Thank you! You're such an inspiration, Dawn!
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I had the very same issues with WW and Lowcarb. . . over and over and over.

Today is 8 weeks for me, and I'm down 11 lbs. No, it's not speedy, and I can tell TOMs are going to be big slowdowns for me, not to mention travel.

But the big deal is that I have HUNG IN with it for 8 weeks and I'm not ready to stop. Normally, I would have dropped 5-6 lbs, then totally blown the plan after about 3 weeks and gained 10.
Yep. That sounds exactly like my past. I don't see a problem looming on the horizon for staying with this over the long haul.

I think I always knew I could not change my eating habits to a Weight Watchers way of life, and did not really ever believe that it would be very healthy if I did back when it was a carb fest.

And even though I felt that low carb was much better for me, I had it proved to me, over and over again, that anything requiring absolute compliance was going to be a big fail for me.
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Have you reached the stage where, in the midst of gourmet plenty and happy companions, you find yourself wishing tomorrow could be a nice, calm DD? Not for the weight control particularly, but just for the calm and the simple flavors.
Uh. No.

That does not sound like me at all.

But I guess I won't rule it out, because I'm changing!

For me, Down Days feel more like a Catholic confessional. Whatever I did yesterday, today I get to be forgiven my sins :P
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Has your insomnia coincided with your bulletproof coffee habit?
I'm not sure. I've been doing the bulletproof coffee thing for about a month. The insomnia has only started the past two weeks.

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I *have* to eat breakfast, with at least 20-25g protein, in order to sleep.
(Fasting can affect cortisol production, which can keep us awake.)
Uh oh.

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If the trend continues, we have a couple threads going on circadian rhythm and insomnia...if anybody wants the links, let me know.

I hope you sleep well tonight, Steph!
Thank you! As it happens, I had to pull an all-nighter last night because of a publishing deadline that caught me unawares. In this instance, perhaps the fasting insomnia was a help b/c there is nothing like having to write a love scene in a book at four in the morning to really test whether or not you're made of the right stuff.

If the theory that I've seen on some websites is correct--that female mice become smarter and sleep less when fasting so as to make them better at finding food--maybe that worked to my advantage.

However, today I feel like I have been hit by a bus and then backed over by a bulldozer. I am re-dedicating myself to healthier sleeping habits. I'm going to stop working several hours before bed. I'm going to take a bath to relax and maybe read a book. For fun. One that somebody else wrote. And then I'm going to SLEEEEEEP.
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Stephanie! Do you have any idea how many people around the world wake up thinking, "It's Thursday! Time for Steph's weekly update!" Do you have any idea how much good kharma surrounds you???
OMG, you guys are all going to make me cry.

You just know what a writer loves to hear.

I am totally feeling the love though and sending it back in big batches!

(I write my updates on a Wednesday or Thursday depending which one of them followed a Down Day. I couldn't bear to write them on the morning after an Up Day. Imagine the drama :P)
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