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Old 09-11-2012, 08:16 PM   #1
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I think I go this but I'm not sure

Thursday is when I have my next UD and after talking to a lot of you it would be best to go by what the calculator said and eat my 2711 UD and my 542 DD. I'm still freaking out 2711 but I trust you guys.

I'm going to tell you how I've been doing this and please tell me if I'm doing something wrong.

Monday was a DD and I did a 20 hour fast so from 8pm Sunday to 5pm Monday

Today is an UD and I fasted from 8pm Monday to 12pm today.

Wednesday is a DD and I'll try to fast for 23 hours (maybe 20) 8pm Tuesday to 7pm Wednesday,

I've heard that you need to fast for 24 hours to make this work but I'm not sure
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:14 PM   #2
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Well, to be honest, I think you are making this more complicated than it has to be with the timing, hours and fasting. This isn't really a part of the JUDDD plan as it is written in the book. May I suggest you eat your DD calories at whatever time works best for you and then do your UD the same. Some people do fasting in intervals in addition to JUDDD; but I am not sure which fasting plan you are trying to combine here. There isn't really any number of hours between meals or a scheduled eating time required for this plan. It would be a lot easier on you to just do your calorie rotations for a few weeks and if you still want to add in some IF do that after you have some experience on plan. Good luck and happy JUDDDing.

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Old 09-11-2012, 11:39 PM   #3
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As we said in the Army....Keep it simple..at least to begin with...then see how your body adapts to this woe...I think you'll like it.
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Old 09-12-2012, 02:23 AM   #4
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I've heard that you need to fast for 24 hours to make this work but I'm not sure
Some metabolisms really need food several times during the day or weight loss rate is slowed/stalls.

As your body adjusts to JUDDD, you may find eating very little or nothing during most of the day begins to feel natural. Or you may not.

I encourage you to experiment with different eating patterns - find out what works best for you. Just stick within the DD calories.
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Old 09-12-2012, 03:55 AM   #5
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Dr. J says to eat normally and for me even 2700 calories would not be normal but I have no idea about your height, weight, age etc. He said in his book that you do not have to eat if you are not hungry (paraphrased).
For JUDDD, fasting includes the very low calorie DD so for me I do not eat after 7pm. So 7pm on UD until 6am the next UD would be considered a fasting period.
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:25 AM   #6
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I agree; keep it simple. Consume your UD calories however/whenever you want on your UD and consume your DD calories however/whenever you want on your DD. It doesn't get much easier than that. If that's what you do, you'll have 36 hours (approximately) of fasting Dr. J style (with your very low DD calories, that's still considered a fast of sorts).
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:39 AM   #7
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Exactly, he uses the terms Up Day and Down Day advisedly. Your low calories on a DD are considered to be a 'fast'.

Making sense yet?
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:43 AM   #8
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Dr. J says to eat normally and for me even 2700 calories would not be normal but I have no idea about your height, weight, age etc. He said in his book that you do not have to eat if you are not hungry (paraphrased).
After reading this conversation, I'm confused. I would *swear* that somewhere, either in Johnson's book or on his website, that I had read the recommendation for UD's was to eat 70-80% of the daily requirement, which for me is around 1700-1900 calories (my daily requirement with no exercise is about 2300).

Now I can't find that anywhere. Is it really true that "eating normally" we're supposed to eat our complete daily requirement on UDs according to the calculator?

And does anyone know where I would have picked up that idea about the UD goal being 70-80% of requirement?
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Old 09-12-2012, 09:21 AM   #9
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After reading this conversation, I'm confused. I would *swear* that somewhere, either in Johnson's book or on his website, that I had read the recommendation for UD's was to eat 70-80% of the daily requirement, which for me is around 1700-1900 calories (my daily requirement with no exercise is about 2300).

Now I can't find that anywhere. Is it really true that "eating normally" we're supposed to eat our complete daily requirement on UDs according to the calculator?

And does anyone know where I would have picked up that idea about the UD goal being 70-80% of requirement?
I'm not sure where the 70-80% came from, and you don't HAVE to eat all your UD calories, though you do need to make sure to eat enough to bring yourself out of stress response so your body knows it's okay to release the fat, if that makes sense. Maybe somewhere there was a mention of eating "at least" 70-80% of your UD calories to ensure you get enough?

I eat ALL of my UD calories, and do very well with it. I did find when I tried to lower UD calories that I actually stalled. Everyone's different though and YMMV.
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Old 09-12-2012, 09:27 AM   #10
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The calculator numbers are not set in stone. Considering the standard deviation % you actually end up with a range that your calories fall into. Some need to err toward the lower number and others like Dawn do well on the mid to higher end.
Someone did a thread on the ranges but not sure what to search for to find it again. Does anyone remember??
Everyone is different. I too did well on the higher end for UD's but that is changing as I get closer and closer to goal. Darn. I gave up GooGoo Clusters a long time ago in the name of weightloss so I am afraid my beloved BlueBell ice cream will be the next vice I have to eliminate. Whine.
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Old 09-12-2012, 10:13 AM   #11
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just bumped it up.....Calculating UD/DD calories.

We need it in the stickies!!! PLEASE!!
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Old 09-12-2012, 10:14 AM   #12
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Exactly, he uses the terms Up Day and Down Day advisedly. Your low calories on a DD are considered to be a 'fast'.

Making sense yet?
Ohhhh ok I got it. What I was going was adding leangains to my UD thinking that I need to do that to make this a fast.
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Old 09-12-2012, 10:32 AM   #13
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I'm not sure where the 70-80% came from, and you don't HAVE to eat all your UD calories, though you do need to make sure to eat enough to bring yourself out of stress response so your body knows it's okay to release the fat, if that makes sense. Maybe somewhere there was a mention of eating "at least" 70-80% of your UD calories to ensure you get enough?
That's possible--it wouldn't be the first time I've read a lot of different stats and extrapolated something that wasn't there. I swear, I can almost visualize the writing on the page.

BUT, if that means I can eat an extra few hundred calories on UDs, I"m not going to argue with it.
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