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Old 09-03-2012, 05:12 AM   #1
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How are you all doing with this maintance thing?? I found i still must count calories, one month I did not and it took me 2 months to get those 3 extra pounds off again, do not want to have to do that again. I gain my weight in the tummy

Have a super great Labor Day All!

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Old 09-03-2012, 11:13 AM   #2
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Leona-you could be describing me!
I'm counting all my calories again. I'm 3lbs up from where I want to be. For me, maintance is harded than WL. Always trying to figure this out.
I tried eating LC/HF and I just can't feel 'full'. I can't stay at my UD number eating that way. So I'm eating what I know fills me the most. Oatmeal, veggies and fruit along with protein and fat.
I stayed at my UD number yesterday and I'm at 131 this morning.
Thank goodness JUDDD works so well!
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I agree that Main is a bit harder then WL I too eat oatmeal

I so wanted to not diet and count calories, but now find it is a must! For me I notice I like bread too much So try to not eat that so much.

Today we are having hot weather, up around 90 now, so cannot do any walking out side at the moment, but maybe towards evening I can. I feel walking is a help to get my tummy a bit flatter

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I stayed the same from Aug 1 to Aug 31 but there was a week and a half in there when my weight went down to 117 and stayed below 119. But now I'm back up to the top of my range. Amazing how much difference a few pounds makes when you are lighter. I'd like to get it back down so I'll be watching calories more closely. I've been pretty much having 'free' weekends, 3 good DDs during the week (with one being a total fast), and 2 good UDs at WLM. So looks like I need to cut the 'free' weekends at least a few times to see a drop. Vacation is 8 weeks away and I want to start low. LOL
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Looks like there are a few of us watching the calories again. It sure helps to come here and chat with people going through the same thing!
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Old 09-06-2012, 09:14 AM   #6
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Struggling a little because of all the lovely social events in my life. But highs of 127 and lows of 124 still look pretty amazing to me.

Looking forward to a clean week or two of good rotations, but as I am taking my DD and her DH (they have learning difficulties) to visit my sister for a week I don't see that happening yet.

My Sister is on Dukan Maintenance so if I eat pretty much along with her I should do fine.
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Cindy, you look amazing. I am a long way from maintanence but thought I would get a preview of what is at the other end of the journey.

Are all of you who are talking about having to count calories still doing UDDD? I expect to do this the rest of my life but figured the weight loss would just taper off at some point.
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Cindy, you look amazing. I am a long way from maintanence but thought I would get a preview of what is at the other end of the journey.

Are all of you who are talking about having to count calories still doing UDDD? I expect to do this the rest of my life but figured the weight loss would just taper off at some point.
I started getting too carried away on UDs. I'm counting again to get back to the lower end of the wt range I want to be.
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I'm back under 130!
I want my average to be 125-126 with 130 the highest.
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I think I asked this in the wrong thread but what are your various calorie targets in maintenance? I am afraid that my maintenance UDs will be like 1500 when I can get down to 140ish and that will def feel like a diet to me.
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Trying, I hear you, and I panicked about that for the longest time.
All I can offer is that it may not feel so restrictive by the time you get there. 3000 felt restrictive to me when I started Juddd. Really. Now 1550 seems reasonable.
Also, once you get there, you may do well enough on more.
My vote is to cross bridges as we get to them and not before. We have enough to contend with right now, don't we?
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Wise words from Kristin there.

I am less likely to count on my UDs now, but I do if I feel that things are going a little 'wrong'. I certainly use a higher number than the Dr gives, I prefer lower DDs and higher UDs as a rule.

DD counting is necessary forever I fear unless you eat ready meals all the time.
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Thanks JoyJoy and Kissa - I will take the advice of two such experts and hope that one day (soon) I get to cross that bridge.
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Thanks, ladies. Logging the food is really easy to do and probably enough to keep me from going too far off course. Plus by the time I get to goal, food will probably not be as important to me as it is now.

I am trying to find ways to tighten the skin as I lose. Already have a little apron from the first 50+ I lost a few years ago with at least that far to go to goal. I will be 60 this month so not a spring chicken any more. Going to start with coconut oil.
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Old 09-06-2012, 03:58 PM   #15
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First, I would never say this is how it's done....I just know it has worked for me.
When I decided to maintain for a while, I went to online calculators that give us daily calories according to our current weight.

Because they all differ some, I used 6 diff ones.Then took an average of the 6. I also always put "sedentary" to be extra "safe" and came up with roughly 1500 calories.

Knowing that a down day followed by an up day keeps our metabolism confused, and like Pat "So Happy" says, burning hotter, I figured out what those days needed to be to average my 1500 calories!

So, with my DDs set at about 800-900, and my UDs about 1850-1900, I easily maintained my weight because the average of my DD+UD divided by 2 is 1400 (or less depending on exact numbers) I also used a medium day on the weekend. Here is an example of a typical week.

M-870-DD
T-1870-UD
W-960-DD
T-1808-UD {Calories for the week:9,747 divided by 7 days= 1,392 calories!}
F-860-DD
S-1419-MD
S-1960-UD

All I can say is that these numbers seemed heavenly to me after much lower numbers in WLM.......and I maintained easily for 5 months. My plan was to always to get back in WLM again, which I have just begun!

I will say that it's a little harder this time because my calories are lower than in WLM the 1st time, cause I'm 30 lbs. lighter!!! Plus, I got "spoiled" to those higher maintenance numbers!

Also want to add that I am one that feels the need to always "count" because I know how easily I would "let" my calories creep up along with the pounds!!! It is worth it to me and a very small price to pay.

Hopefully this makes sense to anyone interested in one happy happy JUDDD BUDD that experienced 5 months of maintenance and will look so forward to being there again soon!!!

Will also be exercising more and more to as my health allows....so all the better for WLM or MAINTENANCE!!!!!!

Love you all!!Phyl
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:11 PM   #16
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Just wanted to add that , as you can see, the avg. which is lower than 1500, would allow some "higher" days now and then, when, you know, "life" happened!!! I swear... this way of life is maaaaavelous!!!!!

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Phyl-great suggestion for maintaining. I figured my average should be around 1650. For some reason I always want to add the extra calories to my UDs. So maybe 300-400 DDs and around 2900 on UDs.
First I want to see 125 on the scale.
Hit 128 this morning so I'm getting there.
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Wow JBINME those are great maintenance numbers. I would be thrilled to get to that place and still stay trim. I think I would also go for the low DDs so I can feast on UDs and also get the max Sirt1 benefits. I hope I get there one day. At my turtle rate of loss (less than a pound a week) it's looking like Fall 2013 before I hit maintenance. I hope I can stay strong that long!
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I am finding this all too hard

Back in June I was at 114, then by August it was 117!

Then on Sept. 7 it was 113.5, today it is 115!

I find the scale to be so depressing! I was feeling ever so fat one morning, then put on a pair of jeans I had not worn all summer and they fit so nice, even felt my flat tummy in them, but the scale numbers are still depressing for me!

Sure wish I was not such a whimp about the bounce

Any suggestions for me would be appreciated

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Leona can I ask are you on weight loss rotations or maintenance?
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I find the scale to be so depressing! I was feeling ever so fat one morning, then put on a pair of jeans I had not worn all summer and they fit so nice, even felt my flat tummy in them, but the scale numbers are still depressing for me!

Sure wish I was not such a whimp about the bounce

Any suggestions for me would be appreciated

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Since the numbers depress you (you skinny thing), stop looking at the numbers.

Really. Stop weighing.

Get a pair of pants, t-shirt, and shoes that fit exactly the way you want to be. Put them on daily. Don't actually wear them, that will stretch them. Just try them on daily. If they fit, then you are good to go. If they get tight it is time concentrate on your rotations.
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I stayed the same from Aug 1 to Aug 31 but there was a week and a half in there when my weight went down to 117 and stayed below 119. But now I'm back up to the top of my range. Amazing how much difference a few pounds makes when you are lighter. I'd like to get it back down so I'll be watching calories more closely. I've been pretty much having 'free' weekends, 3 good DDs during the week (with one being a total fast), and 2 good UDs at WLM. So looks like I need to cut the 'free' weekends at least a few times to see a drop. Vacation is 8 weeks away and I want to start low. LOL
Kathy, I like how you have a range for maintenance. I chose a maint weight to take the pressure off since I seem to have 140 as a wall which I hit almost every year and then regain. So I have been hovering 141-144 for about a month or so now. It is truly amazing to me that I really feel puffy at 144 and so much better at 141-142. How can that be? But what I really love is that I am paying attention to how I feel. In the past I would go on binges that would last weeks it seems and I would ignore how I felt physically until all of a sudden (yeah-right) I was 10 pounds heavier, needing to start all over again. I feel more in tune with my body now, and I actually want to watch what I eat so I feel really great. Well, most of the time anyway. I am loving the changes I see in myself with this woe. I feel as though I am getting my sanity back in the weight loss/maint realm.
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I am finding this all too hard

Back in June I was at 114, then by August it was 117!

Then on Sept. 7 it was 113.5, today it is 115!

I find the scale to be so depressing! I was feeling ever so fat one morning, then put on a pair of jeans I had not worn all summer and they fit so nice, even felt my flat tummy in them, but the scale numbers are still depressing for me!

Sure wish I was not such a whimp about the bounce

Any suggestions for me would be appreciated

Leona
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Since the numbers depress you (you skinny thing), stop looking at the numbers.

Really. Stop weighing.

Get a pair of pants, t-shirt, and shoes that fit exactly the way you want to be. Put them on daily. Don't actually wear them, that will stretch them. Just try them on daily. If they fit, then you are good to go. If they get tight it is time concentrate on your rotations.
Nancy--great post and sooooo true! I swear one day I will put this in my sig line...

"If I feel good in my clothes and like how I look in my clothes, do I really care what the scale says??"

...as a reminder to myself to not live and die by that magic number someone else said would be perfect for me.


Truly, Leona, it is time to stop weighing so you can keep your sanity and be at peace with yourself and your body. HUGS to you!!
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Leona can I ask are you on weight loss rotations or maintenance?
I am in maintenance since May 1, but I find it so hard, even more so then in WLM

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Nancy!!

Since the numbers depress you (you skinny thing), stop looking at the numbers.

Really. Stop weighing.

Get a pair of pants, t-shirt, and shoes that fit exactly the way you want to be. Put them on daily. Don't actually wear them, that will stretch them. Just try them on daily. If they fit, then you are good to go. If they get tight it is time concentrate on your rotations.
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I am in maintenance since May 1, but I find it so hard, even more so then in WLM
Leona, I thought if you were still trying to lose that I could understand your disappointment even at such a low weight but in maintenance that is a great achievement. I would be ecstatic! To get to such a low weight and maintain it, well done!
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Leonak--set a maintenance range rather than a maintenance weight. It is completely unrealistic to expect to weigh in at the same weight every day, day after day. Too many things affect the scale that are NOT fat. How much sodium you ate one day, if you didn't drink enough so are a bit dehydrated and holding on to fluid, ovulation/menstruation, not enough sleep one night, a cold coming on, stress, etc, etc. Bouncing 2-4 pounds is simply something you need to expect.

So set a range of 113-116, or whatever you feel is reasonable for you. As long as you are in that, all is cool. If you start to creep up above it, it might be a fluke, or it might be time to give a look to what/how much you are eating. Get strict with rotations for a week and see if you settle back in.

It is amazing how much difference a couple pounds can make when you are thinner. At 124, my muffin top is gone and my tummy feels flat, at 125 I can see some muffin top returning, and at 126, I feel downright flabby. So 126 is the top of my range. If I hit it, I take stock and usually see I've been a little too fast and loose with the nibbles here and there. I found myself there a week or so ago. A week of good rotations and I'm comfortable at 124-125 again.

You are doing great maintaining your loss! Don't be so hard on yourself. Those daily fluctuations just happen. And since you can't change the fact that you are a girl, you are just going to have to allow yourself to accept them. (((hugs))) Maintenance is HARD!

But I can honestly say after being in maint for 5 mos now, it DOES get easier. I feel so much more relaxed about it now than I even did a month ago. Most days, I don't even track anymore. I log on a tracker one dd and 1 ud a week just as a spot check, but I have a pretty good feel for the foods I typically eat, how I feel fullness wise, and how many calories I've taken in. I finally feel I'm in a pretty good place mentally too.

So don't throw in the towel. Just be patient, and soon you will be able to trust your maintenance, that it isn't all going to just go away and the weight come piling back on.
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Tina, what wonderful advice! I hope when or if I hit maintenance I can remember what you have said, excellent.

Congratulations on your success. Can I ask what you do to maintain in regards to DD an UD's and how ofter you do your DD's?
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This is an excellent post Tina. So good to hear from ya!!! Hope all is well with you.

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