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Old 08-21-2012, 11:20 PM   #1
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coping with hunger

Hi , just started the juddd diet Monday with a dd. been trying to low carb past month but not lost any weight. So managed monday just about, felt quite queasy and very hungry..yesterday tuesday was my up day but realised I best keep track of calories..well I was amazed at the amount of cals in certain foods I had been eating ..anyway ate about 2100 kals yesterday but still hungry an hour after my last meal. so anyway its dd day today and its only 6 in the morning and sooooo hungry..any tips on surviving today.? I think I know what I did wrong yesterday..many of the calories I ate were not bulky enough ..and not enough protein..so will try a new approach tomorrow but today , dont know if I will make it on 500 today..what to do? is it quite normal to feel this bad first few days... I imagine it is ..p.s great site Ive learnt so much in just a couple of days
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:59 AM   #2
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On down days I find it easier to get out of the house and just keep busy. Just try to distract yourself from thinking about food and being hungry. It really does get easier!
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Hi! I'm new here too, and this is my 2nd down day....I agree with Vikki with keeping yourself occupied with other things helping to get through the day. My first down day I spent a lot of time on here reading. It also helped to split up my food and eat it as slow as possible. a chicken breast lasted me almost 45 minutes because I chased every bite down with a cup of water. I also threw a packet of Crystal Light into a 32 oz bottle of water and sipped that throughout the day.
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Old 08-22-2012, 04:45 AM   #4
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I have tried DD's in all manners. Fasting until dinner, fasting 100% and what works for me might not work for you. I have three meals mostly protein. In fact, the easiest for me is eggs all day. Coffee with HWC and 2 eggs + 2 egg whites scrambled for B and a HB egg for L and D. A cup of broth thrown in if I need it. I do not eat after dinner and nothing between meals. I follow the Mastering Leptin guidelines for 5-6 hours between meals and 11-12 hours between dinner and breakfast as well as a protein breakfast.

I experimented until I found what works for me and my lifestyle. Good luck on finding the perfect combination for your DD's.
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Susan, first, welcome! It's great to have you here.
It sounds as thought you're learning lots already about what works and what doesn't for you. That takes a little while.

The suggestions above a great, and more will come your way. Keep in mind that you don't need to wreck yourself on DDs. Lots of people start at a higher calorie level, say 600 or 700. If they lose at a happy rate, great. If not, they work that DD number down over time. Just a thought.

We're also meeting hunger face to face. I hadn't done that for years before I got here and it freaked me out at first. Now, it's just a bit of hunger, which is far easier than the frustration and borderline despair I felt about eating and weight before.

It gets easier. Not effortless, maybe, but easier.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:39 AM   #6
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thanks all for the support and ideas..midday and I feel great now..I took some apple cider vinegar that someone had suggested..felt much better and that helped me enough to motivate me to get down to the shops..so have come back with turkey rashers,,50 kals for 2, chicken pieces,,low fat stir fry..bouillon ,, cuppa soups mange tout and sparkling water..picking up little ideas from everyone is great. so i feel energised now and feel I can keep going no problem now.. and yes its definately about trying different eating styles to see what suits best..looking forward to sharing progress and keeping motivated with everyones great success stories.. I think this is one of those woe thats gonna stick..if it works : ) always thought you would slow your metabolism by fasting one day..especially if over indulged sometimes,,which is bound to happen in life.. thats always been the problem with other diets..the feeling of failure when you eat something you shouldnt have..so happy to have found you all ..great site ..Have a great day all x
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I seem to do ok when my DD calories are about 300 or less. But when I go much higher
than that somehow I get hungryier and find it hard to stop.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:15 AM   #8
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as a person who had a break of weeks from really doing IF, I can HIGHLY recommend getting some pterostilbene to take the first few weeks or so while getting your SIRT-1 gene active. I have been taking it since back to IF and have lost more than I did when I first started juddd (in a week) and have had no hunger or adjustment to make. Jarrow 50mg capsules are what I am taking, one first thing, one some time from lunch to late afternoon. I have taken one in the evening twice, but haven't noticed any difference by doing so. Just tried that because the studies on pterostilbene I read were based on 150mg a day or three 50mg doses.
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as a person who had a break of weeks from really doing IF, I can HIGHLY recommend getting some pterostilbene to take the first few weeks or so while getting your SIRT-1 gene active. I have been taking it since back to IF and have lost more than I did when I first started juddd (in a week) and have had no hunger or adjustment to make. Jarrow 50mg capsules are what I am taking, one first thing, one some time from lunch to late afternoon. I have taken one in the evening twice, but haven't noticed any difference by doing so. Just tried that because the studies on pterostilbene I read were based on 150mg a day or three 50mg doses.
I second this. It doesn't seem to work for everyone, but it has helped me with hunger . For me, it didn't work immediately though. It took a couple of days. Worth a try!
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:52 AM   #10
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And another thought from the peanut gallery is Coffee.. Some are not fans of it. but for me.. i live for my coffee And when i get hungry i drink a cup of coffee with creamer and i can go all day with no food. This dont work for all, but does for me. Good luck and
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:35 PM   #11
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First of all, in my experience, the early days of JUDDD are apocalyptically bad. That's actually good news. Because it will get better. There may still be bad days, but it becomes a different animal. Be gentle with yourself now because your body is freaking out.

If you don't have to be working on something else, clean the house. I know this is crazy, but you can get a lot of busy work done while your brain is zoning out from hunger, IMO.
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:17 PM   #12
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Hi there and welcome! You are doing great and have a terrific attitude! It gets easier. Swearsies!

This is great advice here! You will figure out what works for you!

Two things really help me:

1. As Kristin mentioned above, confronting hunger is HUGE! Fully understanding that eating as we are, hunger is not catastrophic, or driven by panic, helps me continue to feel in-control and not set to sea by some overwhelming force. It is mearly a physiological response that doesn't build and build and build. It comes in waves, reaches a peak then recedes.

One thing you are dealing with right now are blood sugar swings, and those swings which may be bigger for you right now, cause us to feel hungry. It helps that I low carb because my blood sugar stays fairly steady whether I'm eating or not eating these days. If I have a very high carb UD, then the next DD is miserable and life is too short to be white knuckling every day.

Also, the longer I do JUDDD, the more routine and easier the DDs become. Many of us report looking forward to DDs because of the break it gives us!

So, knowing that I have control of my body and that hunger can't overwhelm me and continue to build and build, helps me stay calm when hunger pangs hit.

2. Instead of feeding the hunger, I sip on a warm drink. For me, I like warm water. I'm weird but it helps thin out my asthma phlegm stuff and keeps me well-hydrated. Sometimes I will have a bag of decaff herb tea in it or lemon, but mostly nothing. I also drink decaff coffee in the a.m.

Those are what help me get through DDs. Also the thought of being able to eat anything I want the following day helps! I know that by the time I hit dinner of my DD (where I have a normal lc meal that is under 500cals), I am smooth sailing! I can eat from that evening meal onward, as a normal person takes meals. It's a bit of a head game!

Cheers and good luck to you!
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Old 08-22-2012, 02:28 PM   #13
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I second caffeine, but since I don't always like hot drinks, I'm getting mine as iced tea.

I have a couple "special" ones (they're not any magical weight loss tea, just fancy flavors" and I only drink them on DDs b/c I'm a bit sensitive to caffeine.

Today, I'm having mango chili green tea. I make about 4c (1L) of it, then parse it out over the course of the day. I tried going without it a couple of recent DDs, and I was definitely hungrier.
YMMV (your mileage may vary).

and keep busy, and avoid food tv, food talk, food anything. Although, strangely, I did make food for dinner, early (wanted the kitchen clean). So instead of eating lunch, I cooked.
And then I wasn't hungry weird.

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Old 08-22-2012, 04:16 PM   #14
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and keep busy, and avoid food tv, food talk, food anything. Although, strangely, I did make food for dinner, early (wanted the kitchen clean). So instead of eating lunch, I cooked.
And then I wasn't hungry weird.

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Hahaha! So funny how beautifully and wonderously made we all are!!

Oh DD, I adore cooking because it allows me to have my interaction with food while not sampling it! It's the best of both worlds! I get to feed Denny delicious food and hear his appreciation while losing weight!
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:16 PM   #15
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thanks all great advice and will try out all the different ideas...never heard of pterosilbine but shall look into it..and also going to look into the reservatrol..Also it helps to understand that its only through the weight loss phase that its bound to be a little tough sometimes but once you hit your goal can increase the cals again on dds..anyways its bedtime here..and yay..looking forward to having porridge in the morning and lots of fruit : )
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For me, DD's on the weekends are the easiest. I don't have to use my "brain" for things. Work and DD's don't always go so well for me. Some are super easy, others I could KILL everyone that comes near me! LOL I have to spread my calories out through the day...I can't fast all day. It wouldn't be safe for me or those around me!
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For me, DD's on the weekends are the easiest. I don't have to use my "brain" for things. Work and DD's don't always go so well for me. Some are super easy, others I could KILL everyone that comes near me! LOL I have to spread my calories out through the day...I can't fast all day. It wouldn't be safe for me or those around me!

Me, too. I would just as soon not have to deal with people at all on DDs if I could help it.
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:38 AM   #18
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The first few months of DDs were tough for me. I used glucomannan powder almost every DD. I also aimed for 700 calories instead of 500.

Now I haven't used gluc powder in months. But I still have it on hand for those extra-hungry DDs.
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:27 PM   #19
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For me it works best when I put off eating for as long as possible, lunchtime or preferably even later and save most of my calories for dinner, and keep the carbs as low as possible, that way my belly is full and lets me sleep! I also drink coffee or iced coffee with almond milk throughout the day, or something bubbly like flavored water fills me up too!
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What helps me the most is staying busy! I have more energy on DD so this usually work out well. I had a lot to do today & I got by until 2:30 on just one cup of coffee. If I'm at home doing nothing I'm starving by 11am.
I've found a few things that work best for me on DD, and I just stick to those. It took me a couple of weeks to find foods that would fill me up and stick with me for a few hours, so now I have basically the same menu every DD, and save the variety for UD.
The worst DD I've had was after an UD when I didn't eat enough. I managed not to turn it into a MD but it was hard!
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I've learned that some foods are really filling. Hard boiled eggs, 70 calorie packets of salmon and cottage cheese stick with me for a longgggg time.
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I've learned that some foods are really filling. Hard boiled eggs, 70 calorie packets of salmon and cottage cheese stick with me for a longgggg time.
I'm going to second the thing about eggs. Deviled Eggs, in particular, seem to really help.
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Try a mug of chicken or beef broth.
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I got this idea from one of my JUDDD Buddds: Diet root beer with a tsp of half and half- like a root beer float.

DDs get easier, actually just plain easy as far as I'm concerned. Staying busy helps!
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This is where this site is just amazing and JUDDD is so accommodating. You can read other people's experiences and pick and choose which aproach might suit you best... and even give yourself a break when it doesn't quite go to plan. I don't know any other diet that allows for so much choice and so little guilt when you miss a 'rule'.

I too started on about 700kcals and thought about when I would be more comfortable eating. But I quickly found that the raised kcals only made me feel more hungry and more deprived - don't ask, it shocked me too!

After 3 weeks of messing around with it I found that I do better eating in the early evening. My main meal between 5 and 6.30 and then a 'minced morsel' as I go to bed. At that point (in February) I fell off the wagon. I am sure I thought I had good reason to but I can't remember what it was now!

So 6 weels ago I read my diary, had a think and started again. During the day I have fruit for the crunch and miso soup - amazing smelling stuff that I got instantly addicted to - as it is only 12kcals there is no harm there.

I also found Chai tea bags which I use as a nighttime drink. That cinnamony hit is very sleep inducing.

Going into week 7 (week 6 was a bit of a lost opportunity but I did not gain anything) I am still finding that I don't really think about food during the day, as long as I know I have something with me. This has meant that I can regularly hit my true 20% 348kcals, which I found utterly scary at first.

Now I am concentrating on better managing my Up Days and adding exercise on UD mornings.

Good luck finding your personal fix for the hunger pangs
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