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Old 06-20-2013, 03:57 PM   #841
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So yesterday's DD I was not half as tired as I had been on previous ones. I guess I need to continue to eat throughout the day and not try to "save" my calories on a DD. I guess I feel there is a better risk of going over my 352 if I start too early in the day. But more energy is more important!

I took 50 mg Jarrow ptero at 3:30 pm yesterday. It didn't keep me from sleeping - as I have heard others say it could. I fell asleep easily, although I am an EXCELLENT sleeper - always have been. Even going through menopause, my sleeping was not disturbed too much by night sweats - they would wake me up, but I easily went back to sleep. I am blessed in the sleeping department for sure.

Today I didn't take any ptero. I seem to have gotten out of the routine.
I could have sworn I had written this. I had a great DD today and forgot to take the ptero this morning. I have always done better eating breakfast on DD's. I can sleep anywhere anyhow. Never have had a problem sleeping.
I have had energy this week. Come to think of it, I quit doing the potato DD's and my energy appears to be back. Hmmm. WHo knows? I am just glad not to be dragging around. I am just ignoring the scale as long as my size 8's fit I am good.
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Adi, here's a personal question. Ignore at your leisure. You had one birth, or more? I had 3 and the last was late enough in life to raise some eyebrows. When you step into your size 8s, do you have a flat-ish stomach amd wear most off-the-rack with altering? I'm approx. your height and toying with reducing my goal weight.

How long were you potato-ing your dds? It's my personal opinion from my own experience that that might have been a reason for the dragging. That's how I felt at least. One meal of potatoes seemed a big help on dds, especially for supper, but more seemed to sap energy, ptero or not.

Were the potato dds valuable enough to you to put up with them - at least most of the time? Would you do it again? How much of the final losses did you attribute to them or was that all just maintenance?

(I know your dds also had eggs.)

The ptero is staying in your system, btw, and forgetting a day at this point probably won't mean much. I'm sure you know that. It's built up. I don't know how long that would last, though.
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Old 06-21-2013, 11:36 AM   #843
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I took my first 150mg Ptero this morning on an empty stomach, and so far no headache! I'm so relieved. If it can help with appetite, I'm thrilled. If it helps slow down aging skin, I'll be double thrilled!
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Adi, here's a personal question. Ignore at your leisure. You had one birth, or more? I had 3 and the last was late enough in life to raise some eyebrows. When you step into your size 8s, do you have a flat-ish stomach amd wear most off-the-rack with altering? I'm approx. your height and toying with reducing my goal weight.

How long were you potato-ing your dds? It's my personal opinion from my own experience that that might have been a reason for the dragging. That's how I felt at least. One meal of potatoes seemed a big help on dds, especially for supper, but more seemed to sap energy, ptero or not.

Were the potato dds valuable enough to you to put up with them - at least most of the time? Would you do it again? How much of the final losses did you attribute to them or was that all just maintenance?

(I know your dds also had eggs.)

The ptero is staying in your system, btw, and forgetting a day at this point probably won't mean much. I'm sure you know that. It's built up. I don't know how long that would last, though.
I had one child when I was 40 so he is 23 now. Can't believe that but my size 8's this week are getting baggy again. BUT I NEVER had a flat stomach even when I weighed 120 pounds. Just the way I am built. I have a short torso and long legs so there isn't a lot of room for my internal organs apparently. I am a pear shape but not the kind that has big thighs. Just smaller upper half with relatively narrow shoulders. I am probably a six upper body and an 8 lower and that is a loose 8 right now.

I am doing potato DD's this week again. I kind of alternate around. I did eggs only for awhile and then eggs and garden veggies for dinner but I find potatoes for lunch and dinner to be so easy when I have a zillion things to do rather than cook or plan food. I actually like potato DD's. If I wanted to lose some more I would do the egg DD's since I was still losing with them but I think I lost too much so I gained 5 pounds back but lost one of those this week. 139 is where I am right now.
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Thanks Whitlin for saying the ptero stays in our bodies and builds up. I knew it, but had forgotten. I tend to do that a lot lately. I figure it's age.

I have enough energy to get thru the day by paying attention to my DD meals. I am going to stick with it for sure. Yesterday was a DD and I had to be an an outdoor event, walking around for 3 1/2 hours and carrying some heavy things. I managed all day on 2 slices of bacon and adequate water for the hot day. I had a decent meal at a restaurant, made good calorie choices and planned for a 35% DD. Today the scale was down 1/2 pound. JUDDD - gotta love it! I had also taken 150 mg ptero in the morning with my coffee.
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Today is a DD and I remembered to take my ptero before breakfast. I am so sporadic with taking it I am surprised it works at all. My plans have been to take it everyday but I manage to skip a few days every week. Trying to do too many things.
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You guys just reminded me to take mine this morning. I was thrilled not to have any sign of a headache yesterday all day after taking it the first time. Now I just need to make it a habit to take it first thing every morning.
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Still can't find ptero in any stores but there are maybe 2 more I have not checked out. I will keep trying! I do not order things online generally so that's not really an option.
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Still can't find ptero in any stores but there are maybe 2 more I have not checked out. I will keep trying! I do not order things online generally so that's not really an option.
I order everything I possibly can. I order all my cat food, stockings, supplements, coffee, not perishable food items, toiletries, anything. It's not because of lack of access since around here I could even walk to almost every where including 3 different grocery stores, Wal-Mart, Target, Whole Foods and 2 malls- all in walking distance, but I can order from the comfort of my home and in 2-3 days a strong guy brings it to my door- it doesn't get better than that! I usually buy clothing and shoes at stores because I typically try everything on first. My sister's building has a door man so if she want to return something she buys on line she just leaves it with the doorman. I have to go to fed-ex or UPS so I only buy things I'm sure about.
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Finally realize ptero does help me with appetite. On a recent DD I was really hungry about 1 pm and took my 150 mg (which I had forgotten in the morning) and could really tell I was not hungry till 6 pm dinner of about 150 calories. I also noticed a small surge of energy, when I was a bit low on that also. I have found that eating a little bit throughout the day on a DD keeps my energy levels much better - and it seems when life forces me into a MD unexpectedly - that is when I see my energy fade in the next day or two until I get back to eod rotations. I'm two months with JUDDD now and figuring out what I need to do to make this my WOE for LIFE!
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I've taken a 2nd 150mg 2 or 3 times now later in the day when my energy was lagging. I also have some 50mg jarrow in my purse and occasionally take an extra 50mg late morning. I think it helps perk me up if I'm tired.
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Yup I am sure it helps. Sometimes I just look at food on a DD and wonder why I should want it? Weird.
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I have one family member (who doesn't take daily readings) who's started ptero to see if eventual A1C might be better (has also recently altered eating habits, so results might not be particularly conclusive).
That was a quote from me in this thread on May 22.

Results on the next A1C came back yesterday and there was significant improvement, from 7.2 to 6.3, over the A1C test done three months before (so ptero would only have been over the final 5 weeks. An A1C test gauges blood sugar over the 3 month period before the test).

As I had said, this is not conclusive because eating habits were better, too. But it seems reasonable to assume the ptero helped some. At 6.3, the doctor doesn't recommend any changes and will see if the level continues to drop. Doctor is looking for a level under 6.0 and that will be considered normal.
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Question for all ptero users... Has anyone noticed an upset stomach at all with the use of ptero on an empty stomach? Took it all last week at 100mg and had no issues but today (first day on 150mg) I am having a persistent stomach ache. I've got a couple of other things going on so it could be related to one of them or completely coincidental but I thought I'd ask.

On the upside, after a week of steady use my fasting blood glucose has dropped from close to 100 to the low 80's. Also could be coincidental but looking positive at this point.
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shelby--No I have not had any stomach upset at all with either brand I have taken. I have the 150 mg Doctor vitamins and I also have the 50 mg Jarrow capsules. Luckily I have not had any issues (headaches or stomach pains) with either of them.
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I've never had a stomach ache either. I always take it on an empty stomach.
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Thanks guys! It's probably pure coincidence. Like I said, I have a few things going on so more likely related to those. I just don't have stomach issues very often so I always try to figure out what's new or causing it when I do.
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I've had no issues either Shelby, also take 150 on an empty stomach. Hope this is just a one off.

Glad to see blood sugar levels dropping, never had mine tested to my knowledge.
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I also take 150 mg on an empty stomach daily, unless I forget. Have not have any stomach issues or headaches.
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No stomach issues for me either. Still taking my 150 mg Doctors brand on DD and 50 mg Jarrow on UD. I've settled into JUDDD - and all is well.
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I finally found it in a store! I went to the vitamin shoppe and they had it. I will try it tomorrow first thing in the morning!
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I'm not seeing a huge difference, but I do believe I can detect a small amount of appetite suppression after taking it for 2 weeks now.

I also noticed that a relatively new (couple of months) fine line under my eye has completely disappeared. I'd love to think the ptero is having such an effect so soon, and keeps getting better and better!
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Adi, here's a personal question. Ignore at your leisure. You had one birth, or more? I had 3 and the last was late enough in life to raise some eyebrows. When you step into your size 8s, do you have a flat-ish stomach amd wear most off-the-rack with altering?
I'm not Adi, but I definitely have the non-flat stomach ...

I have 6 kids, aged 43 to 28 - and my youngest was born when I was past 40. About 10 years ago, I had breast-reduction surgery ( I figured I had been a full 12 years either pregnant or nursing - that took care of the large, droopy bust) - but there doesn't seem any easy solution to my belly

Back in my working days, I typically wore support panty hose, and that really helped - now with shorts/sports it's not an option. I have regularly done crunches, etc. (though not lately, guess I'm getting lazy).

If you can figure out how to get rid of a belly, please let me know (btw, I wear size 6 with an occasional 4 or 8 - and I just bought travel dress in size small - looks pretty good except for the belly ...
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I heard about a web site with an exercise to eliminate the mommy tummy - no matter your age. If you google fit2b I think you can find it. I read a bit of the site concerning the exercise to do - and why this poster feels crunches do not work. I plan to try her ideas soon as to the type of exercise. For what it's worth.....

The exercise is called totally-transverse

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Thanks, Goner! (I've also posted this note on another thread)

No more crunches! Just looked at the free video on fit2b (TS - Totally Transverse) - a breathing set of exercises to reduce the belly pooch and tighten core muscles - and it's something I can do (forget downward dog and various other poses, I find them pretty much un-doable).

I find crunches painful to my neck (and not in a good way) - but this hasn't any jerky movements - yet just watching it while seated at my PC and doing some of the breathing and pulling in, my stomach area is sore!

Not sure if it's "legal" to post the website, but here goes: TS – Totally Transverse | Fit2b studio - if it's not I imagine I'll get a note saying I shouldn't have and it'll be removed ...

It says that you'll notice immediate results, and that your belly will tighten within 2 weeks - and it's definitely something I can do while traveling - will let y'all know what my results are!

Anyone else?
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I watched the video and will def add this to my weekly routine. I notice the side bends are exactly the same breathing techniques as I do on the "Callanetics Waist Whittler". (which I used to do faithfully, and have lost the habit)

Just want to warn all Ptero users... I took 3 of the Jarrow this morning, 150 mg, instead of the one 100 mg of PteroPure by BioNutrition plus one 50 mg Jarrow and it way over the top too much for me!
I am buzzing similar to drinking a couple of Monsters and feel a bit of a headache coming on. For some reason, Jarrow is much more effective on my chemistry than other pterostilbene? I will definitely try and space them out during the day from now on.
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Just want to warn all Ptero users... I took 3 of the Jarrow this morning, 150 mg, instead of the one 100 mg of PteroPure by BioNutrition plus one 50 mg Jarrow and it way over the top too much for me!
I am buzzing similar to drinking a couple of Monsters and feel a bit of a headache coming on. For some reason, Jarrow is much more effective on my chemistry than other pterostilbene? I will definitely try and space them out during the day from now on.
I plan to order some of the Jarrow ptero (when we return from Italy at the end of the month) - I also noticed some NOW ptero on the Netrition website, has anyone tried this brand?

I imagine different brands can contain slightly different formulations - plus if it has some sort of testing procedure done you're even more sure of getting as much as you think you are...

Curious of others' reactions to various brands/amounts ...
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Bonnie,

NOW brand is usually good quality. In fact, where supps are concerned the ones that are mostly food based and not using unecessary fillers are generally pretty effective. New Chapter's supplements are mostly food-based, and non-GMO. Jarrow and NOW are well-tested. In general, the supplements you find at health food markets are higher quality than those found at a chain drugstore or chain megastores. It's the filler ingredients and the QUALITY of the herb/vitamin that can make a difference. Some supplements are tested to prove they contain what they claim to contain, but is their quality good? I think that if a person wants to improve their health, besides eating the "right" foods/supplements, they should know their origins, and what else is in/on them before ingesting.
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