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Old 06-14-2013, 03:53 PM   #811
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Thanks, Carly... I did a little googling and found where someone mentioned a study that was done on mice where they were given over 1000mg a day for a while and they didn't have any adverse effects. Hopefully the poster knew what they were talking about, but it made me feel a little better if those little guys could handle a high dose. I also took it late in the day, so hopefully it won't keep me up all night! I remember reading where you have been getting great results with appetite suppression on 150mg... did you have to take it a while before you noticed a hunger decrease?
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Thanks, Carly... I did a little googling and found where someone mentioned a study that was done on mice where they were given over 1000mg a day for a while and they didn't have any adverse effects. Hopefully the poster knew what they were talking about, but it made me feel a little better if those little guys could handle a high dose. I also took it late in the day, so hopefully it won't keep me up all night! I remember reading where you have been getting great results with appetite suppression on 150mg... did you have to take it a while before you noticed a hunger decrease?
I got a major increase in energy, but I never had a large appetite so I'm not so sure about it suppressing my appetite that much. Juddd had already given me as much AS as I needed, but the energy has been great.

I took 150mg of Jarrow today and did not notice any difference than 150mg of the Doctor's Vitamin brand. I have a touch of a headache now, but I think I just need a cup of coffee.

So for me there is no difference between the brands other than a huge $$$$ difference.
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I just received my Doctor Vitamin Ptero today and accidently took 3 150mg caps... total 450mg! I was taking another brand where I took 3 caps for 150mg total and wasn't thinking when I took them. Do you think there is any danger to taking too much??? Btw, they came very fast... ordered Tues. and received Friday!
oops! sounds like something I would do ...

If this were me, I'd simply watch how I felt throughout the day ... I looked on the web Clinical trial reveals pterostilbene reduces blood pressure in adults and one clinical study gave participants 250mg/day for the length of the study.

I bet you'll have some really strong appetite suppressant for a bit
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Carly, Good to know you didn't notice a difference in brands.

Bonnie, I think I'll be okay... I only took it a couple of hours ago and I'm still alive! Hoping for appetite suppression since my weight has been up the past couple of days... even after a DD of less than 500 calories! It was either from miracle noodles or cabbage. So sweet of you to check on the dosage for me. xo
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I have tried taking 3 of the 50mg Jarrow and I have much better appetite suppression with one of the 150 Dr. Vitamin capsules. In fact I had no noticeable anything with the 50 mg jarrow so I was surprised when I took the 150 and no hunger all day.
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I forgot to take any ptero over the weekend. Had a MD on Saturday and didn't count calories yesterday just ate this and that at a church picnic. Today is a DD and I took 150 mg. of Jarrow brand with coffee for breakfast. I'm hoping I have AS all day, but have a 100 calorie cabbage meal available if I want.

Dee - any news on your blood sugar with the Jarrow?
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So far nothing has changed, but thinking back to when I originally started taking the Jarrow, I didn't notice any help to my blood sugar numbers until it was in my system for a while, probably about a week or more. So I'm holding out hope that it starts to kick in again soon!
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My Ptero from Vitamin Doctor came today. I'm anxious to try it, but sorta nervous too, after hearing so many talk about headaches. Tomorrow's a DD, so would it be better to start with an UD so I can have some food on my stomach? Or does that seem to matter?
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I would start on an UD although I was one that had the headaches and it didn't matter which day I still had them. Not now so it is an odd side effect but then I also have a history of migraines so that could be a factor in my case.
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I have always taken it on an empty stomach and it never really bothered me.
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I had a headache for the first two days and then they stopped. For me it wasn't a bad headache, but lasted the whole two days.

I didn't take my ptero today. It's an UD for me. I'm so low on energy lately I need to "change" something. My DDs feel like all I do is pray for 8 pm so I can climb into bed. I don't like that feeling every other day, and I don't seem to have a lot of energy on my UDs either. The energy thing has been hit or miss since I began JUDDD, but lately it's a lot worse.

I took 150 mg of Jarrow brand yesterday with coffee for breakfast and by 11:30 am I wanted something - it was more a stomach rumbling thing, my HEAD didn't necessarily want to eat. I only had broth with me, so had a cup of that and then a dinner of veggies and an egg. My total calories were 250 yesterday. I went to bed feeling physically hungry, but again my "head" didn't care if I ate or not. I think partly because I was so tired - too tired to eat.
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I didn't take my ptero today. It's an UD for me. I'm so low on energy lately I need to "change" something. My DDs feel like all I do is pray for 8 pm so I can climb into bed. I don't like that feeling every other day, and I don't seem to have a lot of energy on my UDs either. The energy thing has been hit or miss since I began JUDDD, but lately it's a lot worse.
I'm so sorry to hear that Goner. Do you think there is something else going on? Do you have thyroid issues by any chance? I really hope you get this sorted out, it sounds terrible.
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Thanks for the info and advice. I will start on an UD. Probably Friday because tomorrow I have things I need to do and be clear-headed and not dealing with a headache.

Sorry you're feeling like that Goner. Could it be the change in weather/season? I always have a week or so of tired/blah when it either heats up or cools down.
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Goner, you are probably already doing some of this, but consider how to supercharge good nutrition to support your DDs and avoid any calories that are not fueling to you. For instance, a brunch or lunch of salmon might be a helpful switch. Read up on foods for energy on the net and see if you find any gaps in your diet.

The B vitamins are very important for keeping up energy during the day. You can get sublingual (under the tongue) tablets that will reach your bloodstream quickly. (I have some - they don't taste too bad! LOL ) Also, a quick burst of activity or two, like a calisthenic you like - jumping jacks or whatever - will snap you out of a nap!
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Thanks for the advice - I appreciate it very much. I do not think I have thyroid issues. I have considered the change in weather. On the east coast we keep going from cool to warm - not consistant. Allergies do not usually bother me in the spring/summer, but rather the fall.

I do think it's more food related and I have been going over my food journal with JUDDD looking to see what I was eating when I felt more energy. I've also tried some deep breathing when I think I'm going to fall asleep at my desk. Get some oxygen going to my brain. I have been wondering if I need to be extra vigilant with my daily vitamins, what with less calories on a DD. Also I think I need to eat breakfast on a DD and plan calories accordingly all day to keep my energy up.

I'll figure it out. Otherwise I'm loving JUDDD. I like the freedom from feeling deprived every day on a "diet." And my loose slacks today are making me even if I am getting impatient to lose quicker!

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Almost a full week back on the Jarrow brand ptero and I think the bg effects are starting to kick in again! I had some cookies/cake things this morning, and then a giant bowl of bran flakes for lunch and an hour after eating my bg is 120, which is much better than it's been lately when I've been eating heavy carbs without protein or fat to balance it out.
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Wow, that's great Deedee. I wonder what the difference is?
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I do too LCG! I do spread out the ptero when I take the Jarrow brand, since I can. I take 100mg in the morning and 50mg in the afternoon. But that's the only difference. And I haven't tried eating anything as carbolicious as a bagel or banana since going back to the Jarrow so my results aren't exactly scientific. I'm having lasagna for dinner (with meat) and pasta usually causes a spike so maybe that'll give me a better sense of whether this is all just in my head or if it's real.
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Well we're hoping it's FOR REAL. I have not spread my dose out over the day yet with the ptero. It's an option.

After feeling so tired yeseterday and the day before that, today I've spread my UD meals out over a few hours and have not felt the tired slump so far today. Will see how I feel this afternoon. When I awoke today I still felt tired and it took effort to get going. I made sure to eat breakfast of sausage and V8 even though I didn't feel hungry. Had a quinoa/cheese bake thing at about 11 am and then veggies (edamame, black beans, carrots and snap peas) with an Activia yogurt at 1 pm. I am not jumping with excess energy, but feel much more normal. I hope tonight I have energy left to attack a mountain of laundry that has been waiting.
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I'm glad to hear that Goner! I hope it's just that you need to eat more continuously throughout the day. If that doesn't work, maybe it can't hurt to get a blood panel done and see if it's a vitamin deficiency?
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I had a headache for the first two days and then they stopped. For me it wasn't a bad headache, but lasted the whole two days.

I didn't take my ptero today. It's an UD for me. I'm so low on energy lately I need to "change" something. My DDs feel like all I do is pray for 8 pm so I can climb into bed. I don't like that feeling every other day, and I don't seem to have a lot of energy on my UDs either. The energy thing has been hit or miss since I began JUDDD, but lately it's a lot worse.

I took 150 mg of Jarrow brand yesterday with coffee for breakfast and by 11:30 am I wanted something - it was more a stomach rumbling thing, my HEAD didn't necessarily want to eat. I only had broth with me, so had a cup of that and then a dinner of veggies and an egg. My total calories were 250 yesterday. I went to bed feeling physically hungry, but again my "head" didn't care if I ate or not. I think partly because I was so tired - too tired to eat.
I too had been going through the total lack of energy and was dragging myself through each DD.
I decided I looked too thin and intentionally gained 5 pounds back and boy do I feel better. More energy and not dragging. I am thinking I either lost more than I should have or lost too fast this past month. Anyway, I am happy to not be dragging myself around every other day. Plus I added more fat to my diet and more veggies since the garden is starting to produce. Not sure what helped the most.
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The last week or 2 I have been dragging too and I am surely not used to this. Normally at this time of year I'm very energetic. I'm not sure what to attribute it to, but if it continues I may try taking a second 150mg mid day.
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Did not take ptero with breakfast, decided to try it before lunch. Yesterday my energy was better spreading out my calories and being sure to eat breakfast. Not overly energetic, but I managed one load of laundry - but didn't do dishes. The energy level was a toss up which would get done.

Today is a DD and I had 80 calories of uncured bacon for breakfast with one coffee w/half and half at 8 am. I feel ok, not hungry at all and it's 11 am. When I first started JUDDD I had good luck with bacon for breakfast.

I was reading in the "dirt" thread and noticed some people don't count their coconut oil calories on a DD. I think I will make my lunch with some co and also my dinner and not count. See how I feel.
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Interesting that I'm not the only tired person. Adi - it's good you found out what was causing your tiredness. I don't think I'm losing too quickly, or so far too much - I am eating more vegetables also this time of year and less carbs, just because it's the season for lighter foods. If all else fails, I will get my blood work done - I'm almost due anyway and can get it done here at work when the nurses visit once a month.
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I am not sure the ptero or reverstol are doing anything for me? at least nothing noticeable. but I continue taking them.

We will see.. The ptero may suppress my appetite some but its hard to tell due to other medications I am on.
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Thanks for the advice - I appreciate it very much. I do not think I have thyroid issues. I have considered the change in weather. On the east coast we keep going from cool to warm - not consistant. Allergies do not usually bother me in the spring/summer, but rather the fall.

I do think it's more food related and I have been going over my food journal with JUDDD looking to see what I was eating when I felt more energy. I've also tried some deep breathing when I think I'm going to fall asleep at my desk. Get some oxygen going to my brain. I have been wondering if I need to be extra vigilant with my daily vitamins, what with less calories on a DD. Also I think I need to eat breakfast on a DD and plan calories accordingly all day to keep my energy up.

I'll figure it out. Otherwise I'm loving JUDDD. I like the freedom from feeling deprived every day on a "diet." And my loose slacks today are making me even if I am getting impatient to lose quicker!
At my last hormone clinic appointment I brought this up to the doctor. She said that she thought I needed to go gluten free. I am doing everything I can to have more energy and have less. She thinks my diet need an overhaul. I am thyroid meds already, am doing hormones, am taking supplements that supposedly help with energy and nothing, nada, zip, zero. So I hope it turns around real soon.
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My Ptero from Vitamin Doctor came today. I'm anxious to try it, but sorta nervous too, after hearing so many talk about headaches. Tomorrow's a DD, so would it be better to start with an UD so I can have some food on my stomach? Or does that seem to matter?
I was nervous about the headaches also because I am very prone to headaches and have also gotten migraines my entire life. So far though I have dodged the headache side effect. So I don't know? I was positive I would get them though.
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I have never experienced the headaches, happily.

Sorry so many of you are feeling drained. Hugs to all.
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At my last hormone clinic appointment I brought this up to the doctor. She said that she thought I needed to go gluten free. I am doing everything I can to have more energy and have less. She thinks my diet need an overhaul. I am thyroid meds already, am doing hormones, am taking supplements that supposedly help with energy and nothing, nada, zip, zero. So I hope it turns around real soon.
I do hope you can find out what your body needs. Gluten free is all around these days. I hadn't considered it myself though. Are you?
I take no medications. I'm 60+ and in fairly good health. I rarely get sick or need to see a doctor besides check ups. My cholesterol is high, but my HDL is very good - so doctors worry, but I don't.
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So yesterday's DD I was not half as tired as I had been on previous ones. I guess I need to continue to eat throughout the day and not try to "save" my calories on a DD. I guess I feel there is a better risk of going over my 352 if I start too early in the day. But more energy is more important!

I took 50 mg Jarrow ptero at 3:30 pm yesterday. It didn't keep me from sleeping - as I have heard others say it could. I fell asleep easily, although I am an EXCELLENT sleeper - always have been. Even going through menopause, my sleeping was not disturbed too much by night sweats - they would wake me up, but I easily went back to sleep. I am blessed in the sleeping department for sure.

Today I didn't take any ptero. I seem to have gotten out of the routine.
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