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Old 07-19-2012, 03:46 AM   #1
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Kissa's JoyBark Experiment

After years of not being able to stomach Coconut Oil because of its scent I have found on that I can eat a new brand of Oil I have found. I really want to experience the many benefits I have read about here.

With the help of this recipe, from Kristin (and, she says, someone before her) I am now eating around 3 Tbs of Coconut Bark/Crack. I call it JoyBark because I love it so much and because Kritin is known as JoyJoy.

JoyBark:

Melt 1/2 cup CO in a 2 cup measuring cup.
Stir in 2-3 tsp instant coffee.
Stir in a bit of sweetener. I use one packet Splenda and a bit of erythrotol.
Add 6-7 Tb cocoa.
Add a dash of salt and then a dash of cayenne or dried chili flakes.
Pour into a container (mine is roughly 9x13) lined completely with parchment paper.
Let it partially set in the fridge for about 2-3 minutes.
Then sprinkle a bit of good quality salt across the surface.

Set again till hard and crack into large, delicious pieces.

I started this 4 days ago and I am hoping not to have to count the calories on either UDs or DDs. I decided I would start this thread for a few weeks to see how, if at all, my weight is affected.

124.4
125.8
124.4
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Old 07-19-2012, 05:01 AM   #2
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My experiment with coconut oil failed. I HAVE to count the calories it seems. Now I am trying to lose the weight I gained during my coconut bark week.
Hope you have good results.
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Old 07-19-2012, 05:29 AM   #3
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Mine failed too, sadly. While I didn't gain, I was eating WLM calories and maintained the whole week.
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My experiment with coconut oil failed. I HAVE to count the calories it seems. Now I am trying to lose the weight I gained during my coconut bark week.
Hope you have good results.
I have to count the calories in this fat too!!! I use it, and enjoy it in some cooking, not so much in other cooking, and occasionally I'll eat a teaspoon of it just plain, but every calorie of it affects my weight for certain, so I count it as 120 calories per tablespoon. When I use it, I have to count the calories, absolutely. For myself, at least, I don't believe the current claim that the calories in coconut oil don't count, etc. And since I have to watch my calories, at least somewhat casually, I don't intentionally add in the dense calories of this oil just for the sake of eating it, in addition to using it in cooking.

So since I don't try to get coconut oil in as a diet aid at all, I don't make coconut bark as a sweet treat. For sweet treats, I just eat sweets. But that's only occasionally. LOL

I hope this is something that works out well for you, Kissa!!! If it doesn't affect you as added calories, like it does for me, this will be nice.
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I can get away with not counting it on both UD's and DD's. Hope you are the same Kissa. I haven't tried this particular recipe, but I'm thinking about it. Not sure about the coffee/chili combo. LOL

I typically put 1 T in my morning smoothie, and eat up to 2 T more in coco crack. I've actually been maintaining 1 pound lower since starting it than I was prior.
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Isn't it interesting how some can consume an additional almost 400 calories from coconut oil and not gain and others (like me) cannot or we start the rapid climb in weight? When I started getting the gag reflex when trying to drink it in my morning coffee, my body must have been warning me. I still cook m y eggs in CO though. That is about the only thing I fry.
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Glad you're enjoying your bark and maintaining well, Kissa. I wish we could do polls on the forum (some forums have the function where it lets you ask questions and tallies the results for you) because this would be one of those topics that would be interesting to see it laid out like that. Example, For those who use coconut oil, does it affect your weight? Helps me lose... don't lose but don't gain... gain... I don't know. That kind of thing.

Anyway, when I was using it a while back, I didn't count the calories and I didn't gain any.
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Glad you're enjoying your bark and maintaining well, Kissa. I wish we could do polls on the forum (some forums have the function where it lets you ask questions and tallies the results for you) because this would be one of those topics that would be interesting to see it laid out like that. Example, For those who use coconut oil, does it affect your weight? Helps me lose... don't lose but don't gain... gain... I don't know. That kind of thing.

Anyway, when I was using it a while back, I didn't count the calories and I didn't gain any.
That would be interesting. The recipe posted is somewhere in the 1100 - 1200 calories per batch area, and I know I wouldn't just nibble that finished batch slowly over the days! For me, that additional thousand-plus calories would doom me. I have to count it.

I hate it in fried eggs, and GAK at it making an oil slick on coffee, but I love it in a stir fry of ham and chicken breast chunks, pineapple and green pepper and onion chunks... yummy! I am currently using the Spectrum Organic Virgin oil, in modest amounts.
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Sounds like an interesting recipe! I'm one of the lucky folks who loses faster when I add extra calories in the form of CO (1/2 to 1 tablespoon a day, though, not 3).
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It is interesting how we all have such different metabolisms/reactions isn't it?

Lovely to have your input Pat, always a joy to have you around.
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Looking forward to following your experiment! I do count the calories when I eat CO. I don't have it every single day. Just whenever I feel like it. And it's usually a teaspoon at a time.

I'm wondering if "fast oxidizers" are the ones who do not have to count it? We talked about the whole fast - slow - normal oxidizers on a thread a while back. Seems like if it's processed quickly, maybe there is no time to store any of it as fat. Don't know. Just thinking.
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Looking forward to following your experiment! I do count the calories when I eat CO. I don't have it every single day. Just whenever I feel like it. And it's usually a teaspoon at a time.

I'm wondering if "fast oxidizers" are the ones who do not have to count it? We talked about the whole fast - slow - normal oxidizers on a thread a while back. Seems like if it's processed quickly, maybe there is no time to store any of it as fat. Don't know. Just thinking.
That actually makes a lot of sense to me. I'm a mixed oxidizer, and I maintained while using it.
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Thanks for starting this thread Cindy, i'll be watching developments with interest, at the moment i'm counting CO cals but will see how it goes
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How do I know if I am fast/mixed or slow?

Just had a quick look on line and I must be mixed...

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Looking forward to following your experiment! I do count the calories when I eat CO. I don't have it every single day. Just whenever I feel like it. And it's usually a teaspoon at a time.

I'm wondering if "fast oxidizers" are the ones who do not have to count it? We talked about the whole fast - slow - normal oxidizers on a thread a while back. Seems like if it's processed quickly, maybe there is no time to store any of it as fat. Don't know. Just thinking.
Hmmm, could be something! I'm a balanced oxidizer and as said I maintained on it without counting it.
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Made this again today, second time this week! I am getting to like it now that I added some maple flavoring and the salt. I used 1/4 cup of CO and eat 1/4 of this a day, so have enough for 4 days in the freezer. Which should be about 1 tablespoon a day!

I find I "go" more often and more better

Anyone else going to the bathroom more often? Is that why some are losing with it?

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Nice number today didn't have more that 2 T yesterday.

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First time I have see the 3 number in around 2 months.
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How do you find out what type of oxidizer you are? Is there a thread on this or have I missed something somewhere?
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Nice number today didn't have more that 2 T yesterday.

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125.8
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123.2

First time I have see the 3 number in around 2 months.
Woo Hoo! Maybe you're going to be one who finds a great physical response to coconut oil, and it will help you remain slim and trim in your maintenance! This is exciting, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this is a great aid for you, because it would certainly be a nice thing to be able to eat a chocolate-candy-treat every evening and find it promotes weight loss or easy maintenance!
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I'd like to know about the oxidizer thing as well.

I'm still having 2 or more T daily. And hit a new low today (117 even). Yesterday I ate a frozen T before dinner, then used at least a T to smear on my portobello mushroom, cook my scrambled egg in, and 'butter' my toast with.
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How do you find out what type of oxidizer you are? Is there a thread on this or have I missed something somewhere?
I can't remember the thread it was in, but if you google Jillian Michaels Oxidizer Test, it will come up.
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I'm a 'balanced oxidizer'. Though I can't say the questionnaire could be a good indicator, at least for me. Too many of the questions I really didn't have an answer for.
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I'll be weighing int in the morning but am then away for 3 days and won't have my Bark with me either, so this will be on hold.
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I found an interesting Oxidizer Test that gave me a different answer than JM's.

I say "interesting" because it asks very specific questions about whether you like raw onions, or grapefruit, or bacon...

I too didn't have answers for some of the questions...I don't think I've ever eaten liver in my life, so I have no idea if I'd prefer it with onions?!?

I like a lot of the "slow oxidizer" foods but I have a very unpleasant "fast oxidizer" reaction to niacin.

I Googled "oxidizer test -jillian -michaels" because I just kept getting linked back to that one website, and I wanted some different info.

This test ended up being a little frustrating/confusing, because the answers aren't numbered but then you need the numbers to evaluate yourself!!! I recommend only doing it if you can print it out or have a lot of spare time to copy stuff down. Still, as I said, pretty interesting...
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I find this absolutely fascinating. I wonder if this is why dd's are easier for some people than others!? Apparently I'm a slow burner, and I could fast most of a dd and not feel my tummy rumble. It also explains why LC doesn't work for everyone. I quit low carb and I'm on my second dd today; I haven't gained any water weight from the carbs because it looks like that is what my body prefers. Fascinating!!
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Good number this morning after my UD. 124

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I found an interesting Oxidizer Test that gave me a different answer than JM's.

I say "interesting" because it asks very specific questions about whether you like raw onions, or grapefruit, or bacon...

I too didn't have answers for some of the questions...I don't think I've ever eaten liver in my life, so I have no idea if I'd prefer it with onions?!?

I like a lot of the "slow oxidizer" foods but I have a very unpleasant "fast oxidizer" reaction to niacin.

I Googled "oxidizer test -jillian -michaels" because I just kept getting linked back to that one website, and I wanted some different info.

This test ended up being a little frustrating/confusing, because the answers aren't numbered but then you need the numbers to evaluate yourself!!! I recommend only doing it if you can print it out or have a lot of spare time to copy stuff down. Still, as I said, pretty interesting...
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OK I did this last night. I am not a fast oxidizer, nor a slow oxidizer, nor a normal ozidizer. No wonder I have digestive problems when I fast for 40 hours. My body doesn't know what to do and just runs in circles. Same for the coconut oil fiasco.
Thanks PJ for the link. I spent a lot of time doing that survey so I feel it is an accurate reflection of me.
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I now have a great picture in my mind of Adi and her kids running in circles...
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I'll spoil the inside joke and whisper to newbies, " you have to look at adi's photo to get it."

Cindy, I must be genuinely interested in your experiment, because I noticed you had posted and I couldn't wait to pop in to see - excellent bitsy little pop up after an UD.
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