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Old 07-22-2012, 04:40 AM   #31
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Now how do all of you know I actaully run in circles with the "kids"? We play. That is my exercise.
And I do find it fascinating about the different type of oxidizers but sure wish I actually fell into, or even close, to a category so I could figure out what to do.
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Old 07-25-2012, 08:56 AM   #32
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I am back after my great break in Durham, such a lovely city.

I ate UDs the whole time and thoroughly ended it. I was 128 this morning, which is what I deserved.

I did a fasting blood test this morning and have so far only had a cup of coffee.

Off to enjoy my first Joybark and head for the supermarket. My freezer in empty, and I mean empty. While we were away last time there was a power cut. everything had to go.

First experiment:

124.4
125.8
124.4
124.8
123.2
124

So starting afresh:

128
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Embrace a little hunger. It is the sign of healing.

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Old 07-26-2012, 02:23 PM   #33
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First experiment:

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125.8
124.4
124.8
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124

So starting afresh:

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Old 07-26-2012, 04:19 PM   #34
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Looks like you got a nice downward whoosh. You are back in the swing and it's working for you for sure!
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Old 07-26-2012, 05:40 PM   #35
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I'm always impressed and inspired by how simple you make things look. A little indulgence followed by a week or so of strait rotations. What could be easier than that. I can't wait to reach maintenance and hopefully I'll be able to follow it with the same grace you do
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Old 07-26-2012, 05:46 PM   #36
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Old 07-26-2012, 07:58 PM   #37
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:51 AM   #38
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Thank you all for that. Occasionally I get that quick moment of panic and think 'I'll never get this off, I don't deserve it eating all this food!'. But I don't allow it to take hold because I know better, JUDDD allows me to trust my body.

For instance on my UD yesterday I wasn't counting cals, as I very rarely do these days. Stared well but had frienDs around for a drink and although I only had a couple of glasses of wine I ate soooo many potato chips, I was having one of those moments.

My first thought was not to eat dinner to compensate. But I pulled myself together and ate my planned meal of corn on the cob followed by a steak and some lovely broccoli.

And some Joybark, which I had nibbled throughout the day.


First experiment:

124.4
125.8
124.4
124.8
123.2
124

So starting afresh:

128
126.4
126.2

Very nice, and proves that panic is not necessary.

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Old 07-27-2012, 06:30 AM   #39
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After a couple of hours I got back on the sales, which I seldom do, 125.4.
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No Cindy, panic is never necessary. And it must have been something in the air yesterday, because I got sucked into a bag of potato chips as well. Not all at once, but it called to me all.day.long. And I didn't resist. Fortunately, the scale was kind and I was only up 1, still in my maint range.

I've actually suspended my CO experiment for the time being--still using it on UD's, but counting it. I'll reinstate after a week or so in order to have a good comparison.

It looks like yours is def going well.
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:32 AM   #41
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Hahaha, I attacked a bag of potato chips after going to sleep for a couple hours then waking up at about 4 this morning!!!

They were SO good and crunchy, though...
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Old 07-27-2012, 09:43 AM   #42
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The Kid asked for potato chips to go with our paninis tonight. I do believe I will be picking up the variety pack with the small bags so I don't fall face-first into the bag!
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:37 AM   #43
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Trigger food, beware! lol
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:08 AM   #44
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First experiment:

124.4
125.8
124.4
124.8
123.2
124

So starting afresh:

128
126.4
126.2
126.4 I am hoping it was salt in the curry!
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:40 AM   #45
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I've been putting co in my coffee for a couple weeks now. I made joy bark a couple days ago. YUMMY!
My weight has stayed between 128-132. I am adjusting a few things with what I'm eating and my exercise so I'm can't really say how the co effects my wt yet.
Kissa-do you notice any other benefits with the co?
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Old 07-29-2012, 08:39 AM   #46
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I made a bowl of oatmeal/psyllium/chia seed* last night and put coconut oil in that.
It was nice because the oatmeal sort of absorbed the oil, so it wasn't greasy & weird.
Anyway...just another way to try CO, if anyone's interested.

*I only used about 1tbsp of each and it made quite a huge bowl!
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:41 AM   #47
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First experiment:

124.4
125.8
124.4
124.8
123.2
124

So starting afresh:

128
126.4
Cindy, I've been meaning to thank you for this series of posts. I did two weeks of holidaying recently,which devolved into three or four consecutive UUADs followed by one half-@@@ed DD followed by four more UUADs. Gained five pounds and felt like a whopping failure.
Normally, this feeling of failure would be enough to seriously suck the life out of any attempts to get back to clean rotations. Happily motivated works for me. Fearfully motivated does not.
Then I read these posts of yours in which you holidayed and then calmly, joyously returned to JUDDDing.
And I realized the five pounds weren't the problem. The pounds have never been the problem. Calling myself a failure was the problem.
Something snapped, in a good way, and thought, omg, this is the way this works! I can do holidays, and put rotations aside, if I choose to (I hadn't changed rotations before this - too afraid of myself, I think), and come back and be FINE.
Anyway, half a week later three of the five pounds are gone. More importantly, I feel happy and relaxed again.
I can't tell you what a huge step this is in internalizing JUDDD as a way of life. I'm so grateful to you this morning.
God, we have such an effect on each other, don't we???
Thanks to the JUDDD buds for posting your thoughts and feelings. You never know which one of us needs to hear it today.
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Kristen, you are absolutely NOT a failure. I'm so happy you're finding some peace. I totally agree that we really do affect each other here, and you are one who helps me to see that maintenance, while still a long way off, is attainable and doable.
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Thanks, Dawn. I had no idea that maintenance would be the big challenge for me. I'm learning, though.
You know the way you're holding the onederland gates open wide for everyone? Well, my goal is to get to a point where I am holding the maintenance gates open wide with peace, humour, love and a crazy level of certainty for anyone following.
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Originally Posted by Joyjoy;15841502 ..........Then I read these posts of yours in which

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you holidayed and then calmly, joyously returned to JUDDDing.[/B]

And I realized the five pounds weren't the problem. The pounds have never been the problem. Calling myself a failure was the problem.
Something snapped, in a good way, and thought, omg, this is the way this works! I can do holidays, and put rotations aside, if I choose to (I hadn't changed rotations before this - too afraid of myself, I think), and come back and be FINE..........
And there you go. Light bulb moment!

You put it into words... "This is the way this works!"



On JUDDD, you really do get to have your cake and eat it too.

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Kristen, so glad you had the light bulb moment.

I just proved to myself again that it works. 4 days off rotations, plus 2 pounds. Back home, 1 dd, back to maintenance weight. LOVE!

What's amazing to me is how READY I am for a dd when I get home. I enjoy the feasting, and then it is almost a relief to cut back and get back to it again.

Cindy has been SUCH a motivator to me in learning to do maintenance. I feel like I'm starting to get the hang of it and really believe it will work for me and the weight isn't just hovering around the corner ready to pounce and pile back on me.
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Calling myself a failure was the problem.
That is a really beautiful way to look at it.

I have steadfastedly *tried* not to beat myself up or use negative language with myself during these years of being obese. Yes, getting thin again is a goal; but being emotionally stable is another. And being a kind, patient, compassionate person is far more important. And that should apply to how I treat myself, I believe.

I suffered SEVERE depression for decades. All day long, I had a sort of loop playing inside my head (in my "own" voice; I don't "hear voices") telling me that I was horrible, disgusting, worthless, I should kill myself...this was before I got fat! A lot of people use what strike me as self-shaming techniques for dieting...they lose weight a lot more quickly than me, but I just can't go there!!!

Gosh, this doesn't have anything to do with coconut, does it?!!!
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What's amazing to me is how READY I am for a dd when I get home. I enjoy the feasting, and then it is almost a relief to cut back and get back to it again.

Cindy has been SUCH a motivator to me in learning to do maintenance. I feel like I'm starting to get the hang of it and really believe it will work for me and the weight isn't just hovering around the corner ready to pounce and pile back on me.
Yahhhhh! Yah!
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Yes, getting thin again is a goal; but being emotionally stable is another. And being a kind, patient, compassionate person is far more important. And that should apply to how I treat myself, I believe.

I suffered SEVERE depression for decades. All day long, I had a sort of loop playing inside my head (in my "own" voice; I don't "hear voices") telling me that I was horrible, disgusting, worthless, I should kill myself...this was before I got fat! A lot of people use what strike me as self-shaming techniques for dieting...they lose weight a lot more quickly than me, but I just can't go there!!!

Gosh, this doesn't have anything to do with coconut, does it?!!!
Yahhhhhh! Yah!
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Wow! I was reading this while coming back from the Olympics, on my phone. Then I had to cook a meal for friends, now they have gone, it is 11.06 and I have had a couple of glasses of champagne and wine.

I am so touched Kristin, Tina et al, by your kindness and confidence in my maintenance.

You'll have noticed I've been missing for a day or so from my Joybark experiment. You will all know why. I didn't like the numbers I was seeing so I was waitin until I could report a good number. What are we like? Predictable or what?

I do believe I have broken the fear factor of Maintenance.... Most of the time. But there are still days when I feel the fear. I hate the number I see, even though it is a number to be proud of when I look back over the past year.

I have a lot to add to this, but DH needs me so I'll go help him. Be back tomorrow my lovely friends.
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124.4
125.8
124.4
124.8
123.2
124

So starting afresh:

128
126.4
126.2
126.4 I am hoping it was salt in the curry!
Right honesty numbers:
126.4
127.5
125.2
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124.4
125.8
124.4
124.8
123.2
124

So starting afresh:

128
126.4
126.2
126.4 I am hoping it was salt in the curry!
Right honesty numbers:
126.4
127.5
125.2
127
126.6 hmmm, it was a very good DD maybe I am not going to get away with the Joybark.

I will keep this going a bit longer because, as you say Vicky, I have had visitors until Tuesday, so although I did rotate while they where here my DDs where on the high side.

I am in no rush.
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As long as your fluctuations are in mere fractions, it's really impossible to tell if they are being caused by the CO or simply the normal result of *how we work*. I wouldn't really worry about it until you've spent a pretty good period of time doing your rotations at the maintenance level you had been holding to, and your weight hit the 130 mark anyway. Otherwise it's too hard to tell whether you are experiencing true weight gain from the stuff, or are just experiencing a few bounces. In fact, as we know, those big bounces never signal the regain of any body fat anyway and are always just the result of temporary water.

I'm watching your results with interest.

I get my Medium Chains from dairy, especially lots of butter, and only a little coconut oil, so I have so much less experience with taking this product as a dietary supplement than some here do. It increased my weight when I tried to push it and not count its calories, but I wonder if I would get away without counting if I ate only a teaspoon per day. I think in maintenance we often have room for extra calories, counted or not, before we gain... hmmm...
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This is why I am calling it an experiment Pat. My body is a mystery to me and life has been confused lately too.

I also eat plenty of butter, cheese and cream. As I say, I am in no rush, and the Joybark is delicious, lol.
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