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Old 06-20-2012, 10:07 AM   #1
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Thoughts???

My son is 13 and he is 5'8" tall and I am sure he weighs at least 200 pounds. He has always been a big kid but active. Well things happened this year and baseball ended for him in early June. He does walk our dog daily and he has now started counting calories. I know he would love to lose a little weight and I would LOVE to help him.

He has watched as DH and I have lost good on JUDDD. Do you think it is a plan for Teens? I was thinking of having him do 1000 c on a down day. I know 500 or LESS is out of the question for him. THere is no way he could function but I think 1000 might be doable.

The calculator for his stats shows 40% weight loss to be 2500 Up days and 1000 down days. I think the 2500 seems high. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

DH has lost 28 pounds in 9 weeks. I know my son would be thrilled to have 20 off by end of summer. I am not sure how he would react to us speaking to him regarding this, but if he is interested I wanted to offer up the calorie suggestions so he would be ready to go!
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:17 AM   #2
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I wouldn't go lower than 1000 on DDs and 2000 on UDs. Probably start out at the 2500 UD (he is a growing boy after all) and see what happens, if he's interested and wants to try it. The biggest issue I see with teens and dieting is the self-esteem thing. It can be really damaging to push our WOE on them, and I'm pleased to see you're letting him make his own mind up about it.

Keira's not at all overweight (and she's only 7), but she always puts on a little chub before a growth spurt. She's got her chub thing happening now, so I'm encouraging more outdoor activities, even if this means I have to do them too.
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:17 AM   #3
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Maybe he would be interested in reading the book or reading some on line info about how it works? You could just ask him if he is interested in doing what you and his Dad are doing and go from there.

If he has already started counting calories, it's a short hop to doing something like this. Make sure you give him lots of lean protein and lots of veggies and low cal things with volume on Dds to keep him full. He will love UDs! No doubt.

I don't think it will hurt him at all, but to be safe, you could check with your pediatrician and ask if it's ok to put him on a diet? Just my thoughts.
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:23 AM   #4
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One more thought on a personal note:

When I had just turned 15 years old my older brother asked me if I wanted to live with him and his wife and kids for the summer. He and his wife were going to try a new diet called "Dr. Stillman's Quick Weight Loss Diet". The book had just come out. He knew I needed to lose weight and carefully asked me if I wanted to give it a try with them.

I ended up being very successful and lost 55 pounds in a little over 3 months. It changed my life for the better almost immediately. I had so much more energy. I rode my bike every day, walked a lot, and my brother had us doing nightly Army boot camp workouts.

It certainly did not hurt my health. And, it put me on a track that kept me thin for most of my life. (until menopause, darn it!)
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:22 AM   #5
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OH I would put it totally up to him to decide. I have a horrible history of dieting from a very early age. My Mom, when I was my son's age, put me on a diet that consisted of 3 oreos and milk for breakfast, 2 long rectangular club crackers with an apple for lunch and then whatever she made for dinner. I did lose 20 pounds, but I was a mess. My bloodsugar was crashing all the time and I begged friends for food everyday at lunch time. I know that is NOT the way to go. I thought, since he enjoys numbers and such, he might be interested. He has often asked us out JUDDD and is pretty knowledgable of the plan just from us.

I think JUDDD is a good nutritious plan. I know I have eaten more fruit and veggies in the past 9 weeks then I have in YEARS! I know he would NOT want to do LC, but I think maybe JUDDD he could do.

Dawn, funny you mention 1000/2000 because that was exactly what DH and I discussed!

I will let you know how he reacts to the discussion tonight.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:11 PM   #6
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I think its a great idea 1000/2000 sounds perfect. My son is 13 and well aware of DH and I dieting, suddenly the ice creams gone, LOL He is only 5'4 and 100lbs though, skinny lil monster. Juddd is a great plan for everyone and just taking away a bit of the junk food,soda etc usually makes a huge difference in kids.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:47 PM   #7
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I agree. Problem is, he honestly doesn't eat that much junk. Heck, we just don't have it at the house. I will fine tune things for him....
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:05 PM   #8
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Best of luck with what ever you chose.. I think that if he "Wants" to and truly sees that "he" feels chubby .. then by all means help him... My children on a personal note here.. they have watched there mom diet her way up and down for years, and the sad thing is.. they now seam to have an issue with the way they view there own bodys,, and i think i did that to them.. My son who is 6 feet tall ,21 years old weighs every day and today he was up a pound putting him at 196 and he felt so fat and awfull.. I wish i had never exposed them to my world of feeling fat, looking fat and so on.. So best of luck to you..
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:16 PM   #9
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I would like to make this suggestion...I make it every time somebody brings up p̶u̶t̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶ ̶k̶i̶d̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶a̶ ̶d̶i̶e̶t̶ helping a kid with their food choices

Have your son journal his food for a week--
WITHOUT changing his habits,
WITHOUT calculating calories.

Just to help him become aware of what/how much/how often he is eating, without making him feel guilty or self-conscious.
And to develop the habit for when he does start "dieting".

Then either retroactively figure the calories, or do another week of not changing amounts but figuring calories.

Then you could use those numbers to figure out his DD (rather than any calculator, which are usually not for people under 18). Perhaps he could continue to eat what he currently does on UDs, and just cut back on DDs at first. For men/boys, that is often enough!!! /

And he could see his patterns & make at least some of his own choices about where to cut calories--if he snacks, or drinks some of his calories, or likes to eat chips with a sandwich...he could save those things for UDs.
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Old 06-20-2012, 04:55 PM   #10
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The only thing I wanted to chime in with is that the 2,500 may be closer to accurate than you think. He's already 5'8". He's heading into the bottomless-pit years of eating you out of house and home even while sleeping longer hours (and needing them) than anyone else in the house. The next growth spurt could mean skipping shoe sizes - ask me how I know this. So just don't be surprised if the 2,000 needs to be upped.

You and your husband are good role models.
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:25 AM   #11
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Jenny very good sound advice and that is basically what DH said to him yesterday. He is interested in losing a little weight and wants to more accurately track what he is eating. He was very receptive to cutting back every other day! He seemed pleased to speak about calories and such.

Whitlin, thanks. I agree. If we rid the house of the crap, then there's minimal damage that can be done.

As I stated, the talk went well and he was very receptive and interested. Tomorrow will be his first "DD". We are having him start higher and work his way down.
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Old 06-22-2012, 05:20 AM   #12
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Well I am happy to report my son is actually very excited about this WOE. Yesterday he researched the internet to find some low cal recipes to try for DD's. Today will be his first real DD and I believe he plans to eat at 1000c. I think a lot of his problem is mindless eating. WHile watching TV or playing his video games.

His starting weight is 199. I think even 10 pounds he would feel much better!
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:40 AM   #13
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Oh, good, Monica.

Hoping it goes very well for him and he sees some change soon so he'll stick with it. Yes, 10 pounds would be a success, especially when you think he may actually gain some height this summer, too. Most of us don't have that possibility!
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:59 AM   #14
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Well my son completed his first DD and it went really well. He actually is enjoying it. He will weigh in weekly with us.
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:33 AM   #15
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:39 AM   #16
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