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Old 06-11-2012, 11:14 AM   #1
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JUDDD question [please starting tomorrow

Sorry for asking another question however I need to know how this works for sure.

I used Johnsons calculator and it says 700 cal for me on DD and a little over 2000 on up days. Is that during the 2 week induction?Or Iam I to do 500 on DD and the 2000 on UD?

That was at 35% weight loss.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:33 AM   #2
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Most people try to stick to 500 for at least 2 weeks then switch to maximum weight loss which is 20% but if that scares you, you can try 700 and see how it goes. Good luck!
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Most people try to stick to 500 for at least 2 weeks then switch to maximum weight loss which is 20% but if that scares you, you can try 700 and see how it goes. Good luck!
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But isn't 35% a faster loss? I want this off as quickly as possible.So are you saying 25% is faster loss than 35%? Sorry for the questions but someitmes my mind isn't all there and it takes me awhile to understand things
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I think starting at 35% is smart and a great idea. Many, many JUDDers have done that with great success. In fact, some have found they never have to go lower.

Dr. J suggests the 500 as a good starting point. 35% is definitely low enough to get the SIRT 1 gene activated. After several DD rotations at 700 calories, you may find the appetite suppressant effect of the SIR (Silent Information Regulators) kicking in. Then you can go lower. As low as you want on DDs.

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But isn't 35% a faster loss? I want this off as quickly as possible.So are you saying 25% is faster loss than 35%? Sorry for the questions but someitmes my mind isn't all there and it takes me awhile to understand things
Roberta: What number do you get for DDs when you choose 20% on the calculator? Your UD number will not change. 20% is the fastest weight loss and for you will be less than 500 calories for DDs.

The problem would be if you cannot stick to a very low number at first. I'm saying it's better to start where you can really do it.

Dr. J says FASTING from solid food completely (but drinking lots of lots of water and calorie free drinks) on DDs would get you the fastest and best results. He only came up with the DD calorie calculations because he said that most people would not be able to do a complete fast every other day on a consistent basis.

Some DDs I can do a complete fast. Some DDs i can't. The lower you can go the better. HTH!
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Just wondering: Have you read Dr. Johnson's book? It's called "The Alternate Day Diet" by Dr. Johnson. IMHO it's worth reading! I found him very motivating and down to earth. I loved learning about the sirtuin enzyme/protein effects on longevity and weight loss. Very helpful to me.
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But isn't 35% a faster loss? I want this off as quickly as possible.So are you saying 25% is faster loss than 35%? Sorry for the questions but someitmes my mind isn't all there and it takes me awhile to understand things
This is sooo confusing when people first start--I was just as confused, and my girlfriend who started last month had the same question!

25% is faster than 35%. Reason being: When they say 35% weight loss--it means you are eating 35% of your UD calories on your down days. So, if you are eating 25% of your UD calories on your down days, that is less calories, and it is, therefore, a faster weight loss than 35%. If you go back to the calculator and look at your numbers for different percentages, you will see the DD number going up or down, and the UD number staying the same. The DD calories change depending on what percentage of weight loss you choose.

I hope this helps.
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But isn't 35% a faster loss? I want this off as quickly as possible.So are you saying 25% is faster loss than 35%? Sorry for the questions but someitmes my mind isn't all there and it takes me awhile to understand things
The percentage is the percentage of your daily caloric needs not weight loss. So 35% of your calories is higher than 20% of your calories. I started last week at 20% of my calories which is equal to 496 calories. Going to keep it low as I want the fastest weight loss I can manage but if it gets too hard, I can always raise it. Good Luck!!!
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:52 AM   #9
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I think starting at 35% is smart and a great idea. Many, many JUDDers have done that with great success. In fact, some have found they never have to go lower.

Dr. J suggests the 500 as a good starting point. 35% is definitely low enough to get the SIRT 1 gene activated. After several DD rotations at 700 calories, you may find the appetite suppressant effect of the SIR (Silent Information Regulators) kicking in. Then you can go lower. As low as you want on DDs.

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Just wondering: Have you read Dr. Johnson's book? It's called "The Alternate Day Diet" by Dr. Johnson. IMHO it's worth reading! I found him very motivating and down to earth. I loved learning about the sirtuin enzyme/protein effects on longevity and weight loss. Very helpful to me.
I haven't tried different numbers I thought 35% would be the fastest loss. I am going to our book store today or library and see if I can purchase it.
I haven't read it but I have researcehd the site.

I have went all day w/o eating on HCG CD days.Until evening that is... then I had a steak and tomato or apple. I think I could go most of the day w/o eating except I have diabetes 2 and that isn't good for me to do.I would need to eat an apple with a lttle protein at least 3x - 6 x's a day.

Like today.... here it is one o'clock and I haven't eaten yet


OKAY I got back in time to edit my post
At ...
20% 428 DD
25% 536 DD
30% 643 DD
35% 750 DD

I believe I could stick with the 30% as I only did 500cal a day o PH2 of HCG. But I was hungry alot.But I did loose 20 lbs in 25 daysThere were many days I didn't get 500 calories in though too.

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Being diabetic, I would start with a higher number of calories and see how you do before you move into the lowest rungs. A lot of people find anything around 500 calories causes them to loose quite a bit of weight and going lower doesn't necessarily increase that weight loss. Maybe you could shoot for anywhere between 500-600 calories a day and if you go lower great, but be careful and eat when you feel you need to as diabetes can be a scary disease. In fact maybe you could eat 6 100 calories "meals" a day, which would help your bloodsugar and make sure you don't feel weak or faint.
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Berta!!

I did not understand that calculator either I told you I was not good with those type things. I just used 500 calories as my DD calories because that is what I saw most people do for the first 2 weeks. It works for me I am so glad you asked this question because I cannot figure out that calculator either. Now I think I can. Good to see you over here

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Being diabetic, I would start with a higher number of calories and see how you do before you move into the lowest rungs. A lot of people find anything around 500 calories causes them to loose quite a bit of weight and going lower doesn't necessarily increase that weight loss. Maybe you could shoot for anywhere between 500-600 calories a day and if you go lower great, but be careful and eat when you feel you need to as diabetes can be a scary disease. In fact maybe you could eat 6 100 calories "meals" a day, which would help your bloodsugar and make sure you don't feel weak or faint.
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That is a good idea I may try that.
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Hey Berta: BTW: I love your Avatar! You look like such a fun and cheerful person. Pretty cute, too! That's a good way to get a picture. When I try to take my own picture the camera always is in the way. Never thought of putting it beside my face, looking in the mirror!
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Berta!!

I did not understand that calculator either I told you I was not good with those type things. I just used 500 calories as my DD calories because that is what I saw most people do for the first 2 weeks. It works for me I am so glad you asked this question because I cannot figure out that calculator either. Now I think I can. Good to see you over here

Good luck and best wishes!!
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Thank you sweetie
I am excited as I hope to loose during the rest of PH4
I am going to have to eliminate some of these threads though... keepe me here all day
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Just FYI I have decided to do another round of RX HCG so I will not be doing JUDDD until my next PH3&4. But I will be back.
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Just FYI I have decided to do another round of RX HCG so I will not be doing JUDDD until my next PH3&4. But I will be back.
We will be here waiting to welcome you back! Feel free to stick around on the forum. Keep us updated about how it's going because we care!
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You are just the sweetest person I will stay in touch

I see in your avi you cut your hair.Did you donate it to a clinic for cancer patients for wigs? My daughter had really long and thick hair.The beauty shop she goes too saved it and gave it to someplace that uses hair for wigs for cancer patients. I thought that was really great

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You are just the sweetest person I will stay in touch

I see in your avi you cut your hair.Did you donate it to a clinic for cancer patients for wigs? My daughter had really long and thick hair.The beauty shop she goes too saved it and gave it to someplace that uses hair for wigs for cancer patients. I thought that was really great

I subcribed to this thread.... so I will be back.... BEWARE
Berta: yes. Locks of Love takes human hair that is donated and makes wigs and hair pieces for cancer patients who have lost their hair through chemo treatments. They especially cater to children. I think it's a great charity. You can also donate $$ to it. Just check out their website @ locksoflove.org. Pretty cool, huh? All I had to do was....NOTHING! ha! just let my hair grow, save money by not going to go to a salon to have it cut! Easy.

Funny thing. I got to look at the beautiful braid my daughter had made. I said, WOW! My hair is so thick! And the color is beautiful! You never really get to look at your own hair except in a mirror, right? I got to really appreciate what I have. I have very thick, course, naturally curly hair. and the color...awesome! God was goood to me!
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Berta: yes. Locks of Love takes human hair that is donated and makes wigs and hair pieces for cancer patients who have lost their hair through chemo treatments. They especially cater to children. I think it's a great charity. You can also donate $$ to it. Just check out their website @ locksoflove.org. Pretty cool, huh? All I had to do was....NOTHING! ha! just let my hair grow, save money by not going to go to a salon to have it cut! Easy.

Funny thing. I got to look at the beautiful braid my daughter had made. I said, WOW! My hair is so thick! And the color is beautiful! You never really get to look at your own hair except in a mirror, right? I got to really appreciate what I have. I have very thick, course, naturally curly hair. and the color...awesome! God was goood to me!
I too have natural curly hair but the older I get the looser the curl and thick? not anymore My daughter is naturally curly too.But she gets the thick hair from her dad.

Going to PH2 a bit early.I will be starting on Monday.Looking forward to some losses again( not the way of eating but love those losses)
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