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Old 06-05-2012, 04:39 AM   #1
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Dr J and rotation sched

Does Dr. J care if we switch the rotation schedule? Am not sure if he has a preference or he just advocates rotations no matter what happens...

I had my first blown dd yesterday. turrned into a AAAWD. Today I can either resume as a UPDay or start a new rotation as a DD. I was worried if I do a DD today it might screw up the Sirtin enzymes cycle. What do you all recommend I do?
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:09 AM   #2
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Hey Cuttie, Dr J, and experience, shows sticking to the rotation as closely as possible is best. But don't panic about a first DD shake-up. It happens to some of us.

If you chose your rotation to ensure an important, upcoming day is a UD, just stick to the rotation. Keep today's UD calories at or near your calculated allotment.

The your planned rotation can be easily change....How up, up, and away did you eat? If you ate almost to, or above, UD calories then make today a DD. If you ate less than UD cals (especially if you came in around 1/2 UD calories), make today an UD as planned.

Life happens. Adjusting to the rotation can be - ahem - interesting. The important thing is to look over what happened on your first DD and decide if there are any adjustments you need to make to ensure your next DD comes right.
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:13 AM   #3
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I'm smiling because I'm not completely sure of all that AAAWD stands for, but I'm thinking you ate enough yesterday to consider it an UD? In that case, I would have a DD today.

Dr. Johnson warns not to have 2 DDs in a row, but consecutive UDs happen to everyone sometimes. Yes, in general the constant rotation is recommended. Several of us make one day a week following an UD into an MD to stay on a weekly schedule (after the first two weeks of JUDDD), which is also mentioned in Dr. Johnson's book.

The SIRT1 gene was designed to protect cells during periods when having enough food was sporadic and unpredictable. Consistent every-other-day is something to strive for, but we don't have to create exact off/on conditions to keep the gene activated.

So, my opinion is, "It's all good!" You haven't ruined anything, just pushed your next dd back a bit.
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:44 AM   #4
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Hey Cuttie, Dr J, and experience, shows sticking to the rotation as closely as possible is best. But don't panic about a first DD shake-up. It happens to some of us.

If you chose your rotation to ensure an important, upcoming day is a UD, just stick to the rotation. Keep today's UD calories at or near your calculated allotment.

The your planned rotation can be easily change....How up, up, and away did you eat? If you ate almost to, or above, UD calories then make today a DD. If you ate less than UD cals (especially if you came in around 1/2 UD calories), make today an UD as planned.

Life happens. Adjusting to the rotation can be - ahem - interesting. The important thing is to look over what happened on your first DD and decide if there are any adjustments you need to make to ensure your next DD comes right.
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Beautiful new avi gotsomeold! Love it. But I didn't 'recognize' you. LOL

Agreed--if you hit UD cals, today is a DD. MD or below level of calories, today should be an UD. If you got close but not quite, you'll just have to pick what feels best and go on. Nothing is ruined. You just took a little detour, and it happens to ALL of us.

I did just want to mention that if you throw in a planned MD to change your rotation for an event, it should come after a DD, before an UD (Whitlin', if it works for you after an UD, no worries). So it would be DD-MD-UD (small, medium, large). Doing a MD after an UD means you would be going into a DD not fully fueled, and it might make that day harder than it would need to be. Just fyi.
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:47 AM   #6
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That's an interesting point, Tina. I think of it as making sure of quick recuperation from low calorie days, with the MD just building on the previous UD's calories for a greater stockpile of fuel. But it also keeps the calories immediately preceding a DD from being abundant. So if MWF are the desired DDs, a Saturday MD is probably more prudent.
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thanks for all the advice!! I will make today a DD and go from there. i just wasn't sure if the rotation was more important or keeping my "original "rotation schedule was more important. it looks like we just have to restart where we finish...

an UUAAD is "up up and away day" meaning too many cals like I have no idea.... I think yesterday the combo of it being a monday and the rainy weaher just made me over eat. I don't regret it or feel guilty. It was one of those things "I had to do" type of thing. Weirod I know.... But today I already went for my walk and am back on track. I think I am starting to also feel diet fatigue!!! Maybe will consider maintenance. Unfortunately I have a vaction coming up next week so I will have to do something for my potential wt gain when I get back. Hopefully don't gain too much!!! lol
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:47 AM   #8
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I'm guility of the same Turned by DD into a UUAD carb fest. I was doing well up till 4pm then it was a non stop food frenzi till 8 pm Scale showed a 4 pound bounce. So today instead of a UD I'm making it a DD. Its only 10:30 am and I'm starving
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:55 AM   #9
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Sorry to hear that Curvesgal. I hate feeling so bloated. My face gets the worse of it. Its interesting because I dont recall eating a alot of salt but I sure did a doozy on the carbs. I have chipmunk cheeks now!! The good news tomorrow I will be better. I wish there was a way to finally get rid of this carb bloat. Before I started low carbing and hcg I never recalled feeling this reaction. I guess its the side effect of doing those types of diet. If anyone has found the magic wand that makes "carb bloat " go away or even sodium bloat... please share! lol
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If anyone has found the magic wand that makes "carb bloat " go away or even sodium bloat... please share! lol
I have for a long type suffered with the sodium water retention issue. I did a lot of reading and decided to increase my salt intake ALL the time rather than hitting it with big doses every once in awhile. I add sea salt to my lemon water every bottle I drink and after a month my ankles are no longer swollen. Strange but adding salt seemed to have stopped my salt induced water retention. Sounds backwards but it is working for me.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:09 AM   #11
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Adi, interesting tip. I have seen you talk about drinking salt water, never knew why.
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Cuttie- I had gotten into the habit of not adding salt to anything I ate and the only salt I was getting was what occurred naturally in foods. Then when I would eat something salty that I had not cooked, I would puff up all over and my feet and ankles were the worst. Drinking salty water has stopped that problem. I keep a bottle of sea salt on my desk at work to add to my water as well as at home. It is so nice to see my ankles again.
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Know what's a drag? Even the fake sugars puff my eyes up! Does that happen to anyone? Do I need to add fake sugars to every water bottle?
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Know what's a drag? Even the fake sugars puff my eyes up! Does that happen to anyone? Do I need to add fake sugars to every water bottle?
Oh and I also ELIMINATED the fake sugars. I am just getting so healthy it is sad. Maybe it was no AS in combination with the salt. Whatever it is I am loving it.
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I eat carbs every day. unfortunately its not helping the additional puffiness. lol I hope maybe one day my body remembers carbs and don't attack them! they say we are puffy because our bodies are reacting to somehting that might be irritating it. I guess too many carbs irritate me some how.
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Old 06-06-2012, 07:21 AM   #16
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Heres my update... did a dd yesterday of 700 cals. Usually try for 500. I lost 3.5 lbs!!! the most ever! unbeleiveable!! woo hoo. will aim for 700 going forward. Today I am very hungry, drinking water and trying to tame my hunger monster lol. my edema went down too. Thanks all!
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That's great! You wouldn't be the first to find you needed to eat more to lose.

Adi, I tried your salty lemon water and couldn't choke it down. But I do liberally salt my foods (I have low bp, so salt is recommended for that), so I'm going to just pass on that little tip. LOL
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Tina,
I can't even taste the salt I put in the lemon water. I guess I have gotten used to it since I never salt food even when cooking. Plain water is kind of blah now that I have gotten used to the taste of salty water.
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Adi have you ever tried Himalayan pink salt? It has lots of minerals in it, more than regular salt. And it is delicious.
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I've wondered about the Himalayan pink salt. Does it still taste like salt though? How does it compare to course sea salt? I don't have a sweet tooth, but what I lack there, I more than make up for in salty cravings.
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I use pink Himalayan salt all the time in my cooking, and it tastes plenty salty to me, but way better than table salt, like...salt with multi-dimensional taste? I can't go back to regular salt either. It doesn't hit the spot for me.
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Same here. It's delicious.
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I blame Venus going across the sun. I overate yesterday.
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Dawn, the Himalayan Pink Salt is just as salty as regular salt. It comes in different textures like very coarse, coarse, fine. I could never go back to regular salt again either. I've been using it for several years now. Also it's really pretty. It has more dimensions flavor wise than regular salt.. I recently bought flower pepper at Trader Joes which is delicious, just thought I'd mention it since they go so well together lol. It's literally pepper with flowers in it like lavender and calendula and a couple of others that are dried. I'm definitely going back for more. Yum, I'm glad it's an UD for me today!
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Ooo, I may make it to TJ's tomorrow (road trip!). I will look for flower pepper!

I bought my first pink Himalayan salt a few months ago and was hooked from the first shake. Yes, it is salty. But the trace minerals create a depth of flavor, kind of like when you add something unexpected to food to enhance and broaden the existing flavor without actually adding a new taste. For example, adding a small amount deeply browned caramel to stew does this (if you don't add too much and end up having to go out for dinner).

I want to try black and grey and other salts. Have to remember that at TJ's.
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