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Old 05-10-2012, 02:39 PM   #1
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INSOMNIA 2 NIGHTS IN A ROW

Hi all! I just started JUDDD this week and have experienced insomna two nights in a row, not common for me.

The first night, although exhausted and ready for sleep, I had trouble falling asleep. I laid down about 10p but didn't actually fall asleep until 11:30 or so. Very frustrating.

Last night, I fell asleep around 10:30p (normal) and slept great until 3:45a (I normally wake up a few times during the night and even occasionally get up for water or bathroom but ALWAYS fall right back asleep) and was wide awake until 5ish. I had just managed to fall back asleep around that time only for my alarm to go off. UGH!!

Has anyone else experienced this, or could this just be coincidental?
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:44 PM   #2
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Hi PG, !

The insomnia could be from starting JUDDD.

A couple questions:
Are you hungry when you go to bed?
Are you feeling lots of energy during the day (possibly even the DD glow?)
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My answer would be, NO, to the first question (although that may change this evening, I will be sure to pay attention to this tonight).

I would say that I have notice a slight increase in energy throughout the day. I have also started exercising and can say that, physically, I am tired by bedtime.

My first bought of insomnia was on a DD and the second (the worst) was after UD.
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Welcome!

I've had the exact opposite experience, but I want to say that I read another post where someone had the same thing happen in just the past few days....

Hopefully it resolves quickly for you!
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Welcome!

I've had the exact opposite experience, but I want to say that I read another post where someone had the same thing happen in just the past few days....

Hopefully it resolves quickly for you!

Thanks! Me too!
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My answer would be, NO, to the first question (although that may change this evening, I will be sure to pay attention to this tonight).

I would say that I have notice a slight increase in energy throughout the day. I have also started exercising and can say that, physically, I am tired by bedtime.

My first bought of insomnia was on a DD and the second (the worst) was after UD.
I'm no expert on these matters, but a couple thoughts, and then hopefully some others will come along soon.

Since you just started both JUDDD and exercising this week, it is a lot for the system all at once. I've read where some others also had trouble sleeping when starting JUDDD, and I think it was mostly on the DDs. They had a lot of energy that didn't just turn off at night.

You may adjust to this over time and it won't be a problem anymore, or there are tweaks that could be made in the meantime.

If it were me, one thing I'd start with is to make sure not to go to bed on an empty stomach, even if I wasn't feeling particularly empty. I don't know if you are able to save a lot of calories for later in the day or not.

Some things that wouldn't eat too many calories would be some of that thin-sliced deli turkey rolled up around Laughing Cow cheese (if I was eating dairy) or rolled around some thin apple slices or something. Or perhaps a whole or half a Pure Protein Chocolate Deluxe bar with a cup of decaf tea. If carbs would work better (and for some people they might help induce sleepiness) maybe some sandwich filling (whatever you like - veggies, deli meat, PB2, etc.) wrapped in 1 or 2 slices low cal bread. Or small bowl of oatmeal, something like that.

What are your DD calories like? If they are extremely low, this might be putting you into an extreme "stress-response" too, with heightened alertness.
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:49 PM   #7
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I'm normally a early to bed, early to rise kinda girl. 4:00 is the average time I wake up. When I started JUDDD I had a hard time falling asleep sometimes. I remember one time I woke at 2:30 and couldn't go back to sleep. I just got up. The weird thing was that I was fine during the day. Enough, sometimes a lot of energy. It's a lot better now. I do sleep better after UDs usually. I would just say that it does get better.
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:28 PM   #8
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I've had the exact opposite problem this week......sleeping soundly 8, 9, and even TEN hours!!!! And taking a nap in the afternoons. Very unlike me. But there are nights I have insomnia too. I should start keeping track to see if I can find a pattern connected with my eating. Hope you figure your out!
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Yep, it's one of the things that I don't like about JUDDD....lots of insomnia & disturbing dreams. Not just weird or scary; sickening.

Sometimes I only get about 4 hours of sleep & others, 10. Those 4-hour nights make it really difficult to budget calories, esp on DDs!!!

I had gotten it under control with a supplement, but the last week or so has been off. I've woken up at 4:30am several times & been unable to get back to sleep til 7 or 8am, then sleep til 10:30 or 11:30.

I hope things get better for you soon.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:12 AM   #10
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I'm using melatonin at the moment to ensure an unbroken night's sleep. It works a treat. Supposed to be good for lots of other things including weight loss too. I'm 50 something so my natural levels are probably down anyway.

You do get strong dreams but I like that.
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I've had that on and off as well. Sometimes I've slept like the dead for longer than I normally would, other times I've had trouble dropping off and trouble staying asleep.

However, I'm not looking tired or feeling tired, so I think it's just my body going its own way and doing whatever it likes, schedule be damned.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:51 AM   #12
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Not sure how old you ladies are but once oestrogen starts declining you can kiss goodbye to a proper night's sleep. I do BHRT. Sleep like a baby, even without the Melatonin. I just got fed up of waking up to pee once a night. The Melatonin helps you sleep deeper. It also keeps you cheerful.

I am a firm believer in keeping your hormones topped up. JUDDD is great for HGH levels, as is resistance training on an empty stomach.
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:22 AM   #13
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Thus far, 3+ weeks in for me, I am actually sleeping better on JUDDD! Not sure how/why.
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What are your DD calories like? If they are extremely low, this might be putting you into an extreme "stress-response" too, with heightened alertness.
First of all thanks for the tips!

I've only had two DDs. The first one I did 447 and yesterday I did 382. Dr. Johnson's calculator said I should be doing 395 DDs. I was NOT hungry the rest of the afternoon and evening (yay) but I paid closer attention to my energy level and I was EXTREMELY fidgety yesterday. I noticed my feet and legs constantly moving and shaking while reading in my kindle. I went outside to burn some energy, playing catch with my boys. No other exercise. I fell asleep around 10:30 and slept like a baby last night!!

I just couldn't help myself, I stepped on the scale this morning and I am down 2 lbs from Monday!
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I'm using melatonin at the moment to ensure an unbroken night's sleep. It works a treat. Supposed to be good for lots of other things including weight loss too. I'm 50 something so my natural levels are probably down anyway.

You do get strong dreams but I like that.
Yes, I am familiar with Melatonin as my son had to take it for a little while. I've always been a wild and adventurous dreamer so that wouldn't be anything different for me. Hopefully, it doesn't come to this.

I slept very well last night so maybe it's resolved on it's own.
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First of all thanks for the tips!

I've only had two DDs. The first one I did 447 and yesterday I did 382. Dr. Johnson's calculator said I should be doing 395 DDs. I was NOT hungry the rest of the afternoon and evening (yay) but I paid closer attention to my energy level and I was EXTREMELY fidgety yesterday. I noticed my feet and legs constantly moving and shaking while reading in my kindle. I went outside to burn some energy, playing catch with my boys. No other exercise. I fell asleep around 10:30 and slept like a baby last night!!

I just couldn't help myself, I stepped on the scale this morning and I am down 2 lbs from Monday!
Yayyyy on the loss and the sleep! JUDDD is quite a change-up for our bodies - really throws em for a loop Looks like yours is starting to enjoy the chaos. KUTGW and let us know how it's going, my JUDDD bud.
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Yayyyy on the loss and the sleep! JUDDD is quite a change-up for our bodies - really throws em for a loop Looks like yours is starting to enjoy the chaos. KUTGW and let us know how it's going, my JUDDD bud.
Thanks I most certainly will!! My son was poking fun at me yesterday because I was blogging. He said, "OMG my mom's a blogger now, using words like threads."
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Fortunately for me since being on JUDDD I have been sleeping great. I had problems whilst on Low Carb...However, I agree with previous poster. Don't know how old you are but there is a point in your life when the hormones change and for some people unfortunately insomnia is a BIGGEE!!. I know cos I suffered for years and it usually starts with the 3am wake up call and progressively gets worse.

However, they do say to have a small carb snack before bed if you calories allow it. Good luck and hope that you get some zzz.s soon.
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Fortunately for me since being on JUDDD I have been sleeping great. I had problems whilst on Low Carb...However, I agree with previous poster. Don't know how old you are but there is a point in your life when the hormones change and for some people unfortunately insomnia is a BIGGEE!!. I know cos I suffered for years and it usually starts with the 3am wake up call and progressively gets worse.

However, they do say to have a small carb snack before bed if you calories allow it. Good luck and hope that you get some zzz.s soon.
Thanks! I am 34, hopefully no hormone changes are in store just yet. I know my mom suffers from chronic insomnia; she is 64.

I slept great last night though so maybe it was just a 2-night occurrence!
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Yeah at 34 I am sure that you can discount that one...hopefully just a blip.
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