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b_lou_who 04-20-2012 09:10 AM

Body weight set points give me rage issues
 
SERIOUSLY
Almost three weeks ago I got to that new low under my worst set point of 170. Stayed in the 160s for nine whole days still losing. Then TOM came along and I bounced up badly. Been fighting for almost two weeks now to get back under that stupid set point. I know bodies have them. I know I hate them.
Guess I am just fishing for encouragement here. I am grateful for IF, because in the past I have hit that 170ish set point and then rebounded up up and up instead of being able to come back down as I am.
Frustrated and really want to get far far away from that number.
Sharing, because I cannot possibly be the only woman here with a weight point that is so difficult to deal with. At least I hope I'm not alone. But two weeks of fighting a few lousy pounds I had already lost is just so unfair and cruel.

KeirasMom 04-20-2012 09:17 AM

I think 250 was mine. I'd get up to 280, lose to 250, gain it back, rinse & repeat! It was so frustrating.

With JUDDD, I blew right past it. It think my next set point's going to be right at the brink of Onederland. I was there, briefly, when I got married 9 years ago (next week!), got pregnant a year later, and haven't been below 250 since then - until now!

I hope I breeze past that one too.

I sure sympathize though, and have absolute faith that you'll get past this hurdle and show that set point who's the boss!! :hugs:

Yam-Yam 04-20-2012 09:28 AM

I'm right there with you, Lou!!!:hugs: I know exactly what you mean and it's so irritating to me. I have hit several points on the way down where I just got stuck. I remember 210 being a real biggie. Finally the scale started moving down and I was thrilled. Then it would bounce back up to the 210. It did it again at 205 and 201. Seems like it took me forever to get to the 193ish zone. Under 195, yay! But then I started working out again and that seems to be a trigger for the scale numbers to go up and they don't want to go down.

Granted, I just had a 6 day vacation thrown in there where I was not perfect in the eating. I didn't go hog wild or anything, I just couldn't stick to my rotations. So now I'm over 195 AGAIN and I'm trying hard not to be bummed. But, seriously, I'm bummed.

I want to be at 180 soooooooooo bad. And, it's taking me forever to get there.

Funny thing is, I don't feel like giving up!! On LC when this would happen, I would get tired of the fight and give in and go back to my old poor eating habits. I'm impatient, but I'm not "tired of the fight" because I really don't feel like it's too bad of a fight. This WOE is not the long suffering kind of diet I've experienced on Weight Watchers or VLC.

So, I'm going to keep exercising, keep weighing every day and charting my weight on my graph, keep accepting that my WL has slowed down and while JUDD is not a quick weight loss plan for me at my age, the line on my chart is trending south. Hopefully this time next year I will look back at my WL chart and be thrilled at the progress and be where I want to be.

Let's hang in there together!!!:hugs:

Beeb 04-20-2012 09:40 AM

Me too! I would :love: to be 133/134 again but it's just a "dream number" it seems lately. I hit 136 and can't seem to go down any further now, been weeks.

Hang in there! :console: My theory is it will move when my body is ready for it to move as long as I keep doing what I'm doing on my WOE! :up:

b_lou_who 04-20-2012 09:47 AM

Thanks girls!
Beeb look at your tiny tiny waist!

I'm not in a give up or binge mode - thank god! Annoyed, because I'm not deviating from the rotation, not eating anything horrible since the unmentionable cadbury creme egg incident, I'm even avoiding fruit to be sure my sugars stay low.
I had a PCOS email update this week that reminded me about the perils of sugars to the horribly insulin resistant with other hormone problems. I'm gently exercising. I'm not taking a break or caving to cravings (yesterday I could have eaten an entire pan of carrot cake protein bars. I left them where I couldn't get them and gave hubby strict orders to take them to work with him today). That psychological hunger must mean I am ready to drop a bunch of lbs right?

Lianora Mosswood 04-20-2012 09:47 AM

I feel the same way. I've had a few set points along the way, where I stay within 3 pounds or so of a weight, never going below and sometimes it's like that for a month or more. It's very discouraging, but I have been determined to stay the course after looking at any possible thing I was inadvertently doing. Eventually, I'll hit a new low, lose for a bit, then stick again.

I am 7 lbs from goal and for the first time, not really willing to settle for almost getting there. If it takes another 7 months, so be it.

Yam-Yam 04-20-2012 10:02 AM

:goodpost:
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Originally Posted by Lianora Mosswood (Post 15596444)
I feel the same way. I've had a few set points along the way, where I stay within 3 pounds or so of a weight, never going below and sometimes it's like that for a month or more. It's very discouraging, but I have been determined to stay the course after looking at any possible thing I was inadvertently doing. Eventually, I'll hit a new low, lose for a bit, then stick again.

I am 7 lbs from goal and for the first time, not really willing to settle for almost getting there. If it takes another 7 months, so be it.

:goodpost: Lianora: Loved reading your post. Very motivating!! Look at you!! So close to goal. I have to keep reminding myself that I don't have any race to win or set date when I feel like I have to be down by a certain amount. If it takes me a year to lose 15 pounds, so what??? Losing slowly and not gaining is the important thing for me as my pattern for the past few years has been to lose and gain and lose and gain, rinse repeat!

This time, the weight is not coming back! It's going to stay off and keep going down.

I also have to remind myself that I've gone from a size 18 to a size 10 and the losing of inches and fitting into smaller clothes is way more important than the number on the scale. :sing:

krow134 04-20-2012 11:47 AM

:hugs: It will drop again!!!! I have faith!!! :hugs:

Kissa 04-20-2012 11:48 AM

Fight the good fight. Use that rage!

kimberino 04-20-2012 11:54 AM

200 was it for me - sat there for almost 2 months. I stuck with it, although I was madder than a hornet's nest. When I finally did break through, I was so proud of myself for finally sticking with something and not giving up. I LOVE your attitude...hang in there and I just KNOW you will have success!

vanilla_latte 04-20-2012 01:35 PM

Good Lord, if that's the case, my body has been at this set point, give or take 15 lbs., for 30 years. I'm beginning to think I'll never, ever lose this weight! :annoyed:

Showcats 04-20-2012 03:12 PM

180 for me. I was that weight for 18 months and no matter what I did, I was within 2 pounds of 180. Exercise, diet, no diet - no matter, still back to 180. I am hoping with JUDDD I can get down to 150 and be able to maintain it.

Luna Loca 04-20-2012 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b_lou_who (Post 15596317)
SERIOUSLY
Almost three weeks ago I got to that new low under my worst set point of 170. Stayed in the 160s for nine whole days still losing. Then TOM came along and I bounced up badly. Been fighting for almost two weeks now to get back under that stupid set point. I know bodies have them. I know I hate them.
Guess I am just fishing for encouragement here. I am grateful for IF, because in the past I have hit that 170ish set point and then rebounded up up and up instead of being able to come back down as I am.
Frustrated and really want to get far far away from that number.
Sharing, because I cannot possibly be the only woman here with a weight point that is so difficult to deal with. At least I hope I'm not alone. But two weeks of fighting a few lousy pounds I had already lost is just so unfair and cruel.

:hugs: a thousand times. I can feel your frustration.

I don't have any advice, just these :hugs:

b_lou_who 04-21-2012 12:29 PM

Dropped today to just under 170 with a good down day yesterday. Now I am terrified to eat. I need to only be able to see that stupid 170 in the rearview mirror. Not sure I can stand another month of bouncing back to this set point. I know that IF works, why is this so freaking hard in my mind right now? ack
Thanks for all the companionship in the journey! :console:

Luna Loca 04-21-2012 12:36 PM

You gotta eat, sweetie.

I lose as often after up days as after down. It's as though my body needs reassurance that I will feed it for it to release the weight. Eating on our up days is what fuels the engine. Without that we just slip into starvation mode.

Have you considered hiding the scale for a couple weeks? It might help you relax into your rotations without considering the mind games the scale seems to be playing with you.

I had to have DH hide the scale from me for about two months early on in my weight loss journey. It helped, really! Might be something to consider.

b_lou_who 04-21-2012 12:53 PM

I know ^^^ I am often up after a dd and down after an ud, I just have loads and loads of fear today! gah. I need the encouragement! going to grill some pastured pork rib eyes this afternoon and have a good salad and maybe some wine (although wine was a scale traitor last weekend. jerk)

Luna Loca 04-21-2012 01:07 PM

Okay, this is me encouraging you to eat. Eat clean if you need to, but wine is good for you as long as it doesn't make you want to over eat.

All the way up to your up day calories, missy! You need to feed yourself in order to keep your metabolism up.

:friends:

Muffabuff 04-21-2012 07:09 PM

Really, have your DH hide your scale for 2-4weeks and stop torturing yourself for a bit. Be kinder to yourself. :heart:Just do this woe and have faith, :aprayer:take bubble baths, give yourself a pedicure and put on a mud masque. You will feel happier and before you know it. You will blow past your set point ( whatever that is?) and be on your way to a new low on the scale.:jumpjoy: I know you can do this:high5:.
Vanessa

mykidsteacher 04-21-2012 09:03 PM

I think I agree with having dh hide the scale for a week or 2. With as much as this is torturing you, I wonder if it might be best just to not look for awhile?

vanilla_latte 04-23-2012 08:56 AM

I'm a little late, but I encourage to eat to your UD calories, too. I thought I was but once I began tracking, I was far below. Since trying to eat more on my UD's, I'm finally beginning to lose (inches, too).

I'm fearful of putting the first bit of anything in my mouth on an UD, but eating more is actually beginning to help.

EAT!!!! :jumpjoy:

sterlinggirl 04-23-2012 01:18 PM

I am also late on this post,, and i about fell over when i read .. Hide the scale! OMG i think i would go thru withdrawls! I HAVE to look every day,, if my hubby hid mine(even to help me) i would run right out and buy a new one!! :hyst: Funny how the enemy has become my best friend :o Hang in there girls.. this is lumpy bumpy ride.. but we love it!! :love:

DD80 04-23-2012 01:27 PM

I hate set points too! :annoyed: I'll hate them with you!

I've bounced up and down along these 40 or so pounds for many years, so I have MANY, MANY set points. UGH. :(

b_lou_who 04-23-2012 02:59 PM

set points bite. it isn't really the scale, it is that the body is so freaking determined to stay or go back to such a wretched place. My head is in a better place today even though I am still yoyoing in this stupid zone. Some days are so hard, and others are a joy. It is just life. So glad we are all in this together!

Luna Loca 04-23-2012 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b_lou_who (Post 15604024)
set points bite. it isn't really the scale, it is that the body is so freaking determined to stay or go back to such a wretched place. My head is in a better place today even though I am still yoyoing in this stupid zone. Some days are so hard, and others are a joy. It is just life. So glad we are all in this together!

:hugs: Glad you found your happy place. :hugs:

buttoni 04-23-2012 05:52 PM

Girl, I hear ya! I froze at 170 for TWO YEARS!!!! I was starting to have nightmares about 170!! LOL I was imaginining magnetic scale gnomes pulling that needle back to 170 over, and over and OVER again!!!!!!

But now, after JUDDD for a month I'm down to 160 and it's sticking. But I fear I'm at another set point, because I've been at 160 for TWO WEEKS. On the bright side, two weeks is a lot better lthan two YEARS! :) My body has set point thgs-of-war down to a "fine art". LOL so know that you anguish with lots "set point club members". LOL

Alcestis 04-23-2012 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yam-Yam (Post 15596385)
Funny thing is, I don't feel like giving up!! On LC when this would happen, I would get tired of the fight and give in and go back to my old poor eating habits. I'm impatient, but I'm not "tired of the fight" because I really don't feel like it's too bad of a fight. This WOE is not the long suffering kind of diet I've experienced on Weight Watchers or VLC.

So, I'm going to keep exercising, keep weighing every day and charting my weight on my graph, keep accepting that my WL has slowed down and while JUDD is not a quick weight loss plan for me at my age, the line on my chart is trending south. Hopefully this time next year I will look back at my WL chart and be thrilled at the progress and be where I want to be.

Let's hang in there together!!!:hugs:

:goodpost::goodpost::goodpost:

GREAT post!

stargazer 04-24-2012 03:09 AM

I've not gone below 81.45 on my metric scales for two months now.

Easter was a 10 day up day but I didn't actually go up much. it just won't go lower. Yesterdays DD was a ***** too.

Do you finally get the woosh?

Galveston Gal 04-24-2012 04:07 AM

Still lurking here on JUDDD....bought the book....
....thanks for sharing and letting me lurk!!!:shake:

adillenal 04-24-2012 05:14 AM

I spent the past two months getting through the 160's and my next set point is 155 so I will be fighting a different set point probably for the next two months.
SO I am right there with you on hating set points.

gotsomeold 04-24-2012 06:12 AM

Hey Galveston! We love our lurkers. So many of us non-stop talkers started that way :laugh:

Theory says a setpoint is a weight the body remembers and wants to stop losing and maintain there.

I think the body does remember the weight and recognizes it as a safe place to stop and do needed housekeeping. For weeks or months (or years) before reaching that weight major changes have been happening: hydration patterns change, muscle grows, blood vessels needed to support those changes grow (and others retreat), hormonal regulation modifies, all sorts of things that are constantly happening anyway go into overdrive when we lose weight.

I think setpoint is, effectively, our bodies screaming, "Will you hold on? I need to catch up!"

I truly believe setpoints are a totally frustrating, completely infuriating, absolutely essential component of healthy weight loss.

When they happen I check my calories to make sure I have not drifted too high or too low (Vanilla and I seem to have a gift for forgetting to eat), I go to the website and recalculate my DD/UD cals, then I up my exercise a bit just to keep my body active, and I keep eating at the 'right' calorie levels and I wait. Yep, I usually wait about a month then weight loss begins again.

The only nice part of this is, I usually see new NSVs during these waiting periods.


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