Thinking of JUDDD, need advice!

cartersmommy · 04-03-2012, 08:19 AM

Hi everyone, I've been on Atkins since the end of January. My weight loss has been fairly steady (27 lbs gone), but I'm considering JUDDD because it seems like a more realistic WOE. My husband and I are both getting bored with Atkins. My question is, if I start with the JUDDD WOE, should I continue to restrict my carbs on UDs? Should I merge Phase 2 of Atkins (gradual increase carbs through veggies and other 'healthier' carbs) on the UDs in JUDDD? If I don't, and I eat considerably more healthy carbs on UDs (not fries and pies! :-)) should I expect a temporary plateau or weight gain as my body transitions? I've been at or below 20 net grams of carbs per day for so long, I'm afraid of gaining when I make the switch. Any advice is appreciated!

Hazelsmrf · 04-03-2012, 08:26 AM

That is completely and totally up to you if you want to keep restricting your carbs or not. You don't have to but you can. If you do add in carbs you will gain some water back. This is not you putting on weight in the sense that your body is rebelling or that you're stalling, but when you restrict carbs your body retains less water. Carbohydrate attaches to water so if you're eating 20 grams of carbs or 200 grams of carbs, there's a big difference in the amount of water that your body will hold on to. But that's considered lean body mass and is really unimportant other than the psychological issues when facing a rising number on the scale.

Beeb · 04-03-2012, 09:01 AM

Want To Know LOTS About JUDDD?

And also search for threads about LC and JUDDD. You will find lots of good posts and info.

Hope to see you join our JUDDD family soon!

DD80 · 04-03-2012, 09:46 AM

to JUDDD!!

Nice to have you!

I agree that it's up to you how you introduce carbs. Most people on here recommed that you start slowly if you've been on low carb for awhile because that initial water weight gain can freak people out. Either way, my opinion is that if you decide to do JUDDD, then make a commitment to stick with it for awhile. The scale bounces, but there are so many people on here that "would have given up" if they relied on the scale and then went on to drop 30 lbs after that. Let your body adjust to this WOE!

I can't wait to hear about your progress!

cartersmommy · 04-03-2012, 12:33 PM

Thanks! My family is going on a cruise this Saturday

Going to be surrounded by food. I think I will wait until I get home to begin JUDDD... either way it's going to be a jolt to my system as I'm sure not going to be able to resist some things. I look forward to joining the JUDDD family!

gotsomeold · 04-03-2012, 01:20 PM

CartersMommy

I totally agree a cruise is probably not the most advantageous place to begin JUDDDing. Have a wonderful time and come to the dark side when you get back.

cartersmommy · 04-03-2012, 02:32 PM

Thank you we are excited it's our first family trip (on a plane/ship)!!

I am curious, why is JUDDD referred to as "the dark side"??

Luna Loca · 04-03-2012, 02:37 PM

Because it's like we're the Evil Empire of weight loss. We tempt low-carbers with promises of cookies AND losing weight. We use our Jedi-like powers to lose weight despite eating all kinds of carbs and formerly forbidden foods.

mykidsteacher · 04-03-2012, 02:44 PM

Enjoy your cruise, and then come home and start JUDDD. If you have carbs on the cruise (and really, how can you not?), you'll have the water weight regain already taken care of and you can just start your rotations eating how you want. Of course, for daily consumption, the healthy carbs are better to focus on, rather than lots of refined sugars/starches. But it's nice to be able to have the treats occasionally as well.

Welcome!

KeirasMom · 04-03-2012, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luna Loca

Because it's like we're the Evil Empire of weight loss. We tempt low-carbers with promises of cookies AND losing weight. We use our Jedi-like powers to lose weight despite eating all kinds of carbs and formerly forbidden foods.

Beeb · 04-03-2012, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luna Loca

Because it's like we're the Evil Empire of weight loss. We tempt low-carbers with promises of cookies AND losing weight. We use our Jedi-like powers to lose weight despite eating all kinds of carbs and formerly forbidden foods.

I LOVE THIS! I can see this fast becoming our JUDDD trademark!!!!

:shake

sophiethecat · 04-03-2012, 05:53 PM

To the Dark Side, welcome, Cartersmommy!

Here will we be when you return from your cruise. Eat what you want on juddd, you can. Allowed, carbs are. Complete food freedom on juddd, you have. With you, the sirtuins will be. Hmmmmmm.

Luna Loca · 04-03-2012, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sophiethecat

To the Dark Side, welcome, Cartersmommy!

Here will we be when you return from your cruise. Eat what you want on juddd, you can. Allowed, carbs are. Complete food freedom on juddd, you have. With you, the sirtuins will be. Hmmmmmm.

shipoo · 04-03-2012, 06:17 PM

I just wanted to add another question on this if someone could answer? I am also thinking of trying JUDD but wondered what to do if I had family get togethers/dinners over the next month or so. The days just don't coincide with 1 up and 1 down based on when the dinners are. Did any of you experience this and how did you manage it when you first started?

heyjupiter · 04-03-2012, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luna Loca

Because it's like we're the Evil Empire of weight loss. We tempt low-carbers with promises of cookies AND losing weight. We use our Jedi-like powers to lose weight despite eating all kinds of carbs and formerly forbidden foods.

I LOVE IT!

Who knew that upping my overall calorie level and allowing myself to eat whatever I want would push me through a weight loss "pause" and bring me to my lowest weight in years? Sometimes I wonder at what point my family is going to wonder what's going on as I'm losing weight and appear to eat a lot (well, at least in front of them!)

KeirasMom · 04-04-2012, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shipoo

I just wanted to add another question on this if someone could answer? I am also thinking of trying JUDD but wondered what to do if I had family get togethers/dinners over the next month or so. The days just don't coincide with 1 up and 1 down based on when the dinners are. Did any of you experience this and how did you manage it when you first started?

You can rearrange your schedule by adding a MD (Medium or Mid-Day) into the rotation. The recommended order would be DD, MD, UD then continue the DD/UD pattern thereafter. A MD is the average of your UD/DD calories, so add DD + UD and divide by 2.

It's not recommended to use these very often, especially within the first 2 weeks to a month, when you're building up SIRT1.

gotsomeold · 04-04-2012, 04:29 AM

I use MDs to rearrange my rotation if family/friend things pop up with some lead time. But I find MDs do slow my weight loss. So, at some family events that fall on DDs, I eat a salad and just-say-no.

sunday · 04-04-2012, 04:36 AM

I agree on the slow losses, I threw in 3 MD in the last 3 weeks and my losses slowed down quite a bit. On every MD, it was a surprise get together or dinner that I really had no more than a day's notice. The idea that I can do this, when something arises makes JUDDD so much more easy to stay with than previous WLP.

04-03-2012, 08:19 AM	#1
cartersmommy Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: on the farm in beautiful Canada Posts: 60 Gallery: cartersmommy Stats: 230/194/180 5'10" WOE: Atkins, started JUDDD April 14/12 Start Date: May 30, 2005/restart Jan 29, 2012	Thinking of JUDDD, need advice! Hi everyone, I've been on Atkins since the end of January. My weight loss has been fairly steady (27 lbs gone), but I'm considering JUDDD because it seems like a more realistic WOE. My husband and I are both getting bored with Atkins. My question is, if I start with the JUDDD WOE, should I continue to restrict my carbs on UDs? Should I merge Phase 2 of Atkins (gradual increase carbs through veggies and other 'healthier' carbs) on the UDs in JUDDD? If I don't, and I eat considerably more healthy carbs on UDs (not fries and pies! :-)) should I expect a temporary plateau or weight gain as my body transitions? I've been at or below 20 net grams of carbs per day for so long, I'm afraid of gaining when I make the switch. Any advice is appreciated! __________________ Christine 36 pounds and 22 inches lost since Feb 1/12

04-03-2012, 08:26 AM	#2
Hazelsmrf Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Montreal, QC Posts: 3,611 Gallery: Hazelsmrf Stats: 303/209/150 WOE: VSG surgery Start Date: November 8th 2012	That is completely and totally up to you if you want to keep restricting your carbs or not. You don't have to but you can. If you do add in carbs you will gain some water back. This is not you putting on weight in the sense that your body is rebelling or that you're stalling, but when you restrict carbs your body retains less water. Carbohydrate attaches to water so if you're eating 20 grams of carbs or 200 grams of carbs, there's a big difference in the amount of water that your body will hold on to. But that's considered lean body mass and is really unimportant other than the psychological issues when facing a rising number on the scale. __________________ -Julie

04-03-2012, 09:46 AM	#4
DD80 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Desert Southwest Posts: 1,164 Gallery: DD80 Stats: 188/165.0/145 5'10" WOE: Zoneish, Organic, GrassFed Start Date: 1/10/12 Medi, 2/9/12 First UD, 1/1/13 New Plan	to JUDDD!! Nice to have you! I agree that it's up to you how you introduce carbs. Most people on here recommed that you start slowly if you've been on low carb for awhile because that initial water weight gain can freak people out. Either way, my opinion is that if you decide to do JUDDD, then make a commitment to stick with it for awhile. The scale bounces, but there are so many people on here that "would have given up" if they relied on the scale and then went on to drop 30 lbs after that. Let your body adjust to this WOE! I can't wait to hear about your progress! __________________ “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and it may become necessary from time to time to give a stupid or misinformed beholder a black eye." - Miss Piggy

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04-03-2012, 09:01 AM	#3
Beeb Why wait, just do it NOW! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where Super Storm Sandy Wiped Out All My Childhood Memories!! Posts: 11,758 Gallery: Beeb Stats: 152 WOE: Thintuition - Intuitive Eating	Want To Know LOTS About JUDDD? And also search for threads about LC and JUDDD. You will find lots of good posts and info. Hope to see you join our JUDDD family soon!

04-03-2012, 12:33 PM	#5
cartersmommy Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: on the farm in beautiful Canada Posts: 60 Gallery: cartersmommy Stats: 230/194/180 5'10" WOE: Atkins, started JUDDD April 14/12 Start Date: May 30, 2005/restart Jan 29, 2012	Thanks! My family is going on a cruise this Saturday Going to be surrounded by food. I think I will wait until I get home to begin JUDDD... either way it's going to be a jolt to my system as I'm sure not going to be able to resist some things. I look forward to joining the JUDDD family!

04-03-2012, 01:20 PM	#6
gotsomeold Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Asheville, NC / Marietta, Ga Posts: 3,287 Gallery: gotsomeold Stats: 175/127.6/GOAL at 128, size six fits! 5'4, 60yo WOE: JUDDD, PHD Start Date: LC/EFGT - 9/15/11, JUDDD - 1/1/12	CartersMommy I totally agree a cruise is probably not the most advantageous place to begin JUDDDing. Have a wonderful time and come to the dark side when you get back.

04-03-2012, 02:32 PM	#7
cartersmommy Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: on the farm in beautiful Canada Posts: 60 Gallery: cartersmommy Stats: 230/194/180 5'10" WOE: Atkins, started JUDDD April 14/12 Start Date: May 30, 2005/restart Jan 29, 2012	Thank you we are excited it's our first family trip (on a plane/ship)!! I am curious, why is JUDDD referred to as "the dark side"??

04-03-2012, 02:37 PM	#8
Luna Loca Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Austin Posts: 11,236 Gallery: Luna Loca Stats: 303/159/159 WOE: JUDDD Start Date: 10/17/10 started JUDDD on 1/28/12 at 198	Because it's like we're the Evil Empire of weight loss. We tempt low-carbers with promises of cookies AND losing weight. We use our Jedi-like powers to lose weight despite eating all kinds of carbs and formerly forbidden foods.

04-03-2012, 02:44 PM	#9
mykidsteacher Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,280 Gallery: mykidsteacher Stats: 152/124-126/125 5'4" WOE: Primal as of Aug 2011/JUDDD (started 1/13/12) Start Date: Aug 2011/I've been maintaining since April 2012	Enjoy your cruise, and then come home and start JUDDD. If you have carbs on the cruise (and really, how can you not?), you'll have the water weight regain already taken care of and you can just start your rotations eating how you want. Of course, for daily consumption, the healthy carbs are better to focus on, rather than lots of refined sugars/starches. But it's nice to be able to have the treats occasionally as well. Welcome!

04-03-2012, 05:53 PM	#12
sophiethecat Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maintain Lane Posts: 5,202 Gallery: sophiethecat Stats: 170+/135-138/145 5'6 39y pcos/IR/metformin WOE: WL=LC then JUDDD/IF; Maintenance=IF/75%+ "healthy" Start Date: LC 6/11; JUDDD 10/11; Maintenance 11/11	To the Dark Side, welcome, Cartersmommy! Here will we be when you return from your cruise. Eat what you want on juddd, you can. Allowed, carbs are. Complete food freedom on juddd, you have. With you, the sirtuins will be. Hmmmmmm.

04-03-2012, 06:17 PM	#14
shipoo Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southern Ontario Posts: 210 Gallery: shipoo Stats: 192/178.5/138 WOE: Atkins Start Date: Nov 2012	I just wanted to add another question on this if someone could answer? I am also thinking of trying JUDD but wondered what to do if I had family get togethers/dinners over the next month or so. The days just don't coincide with 1 up and 1 down based on when the dinners are. Did any of you experience this and how did you manage it when you first started?

04-04-2012, 04:29 AM	#17
gotsomeold Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Asheville, NC / Marietta, Ga Posts: 3,287 Gallery: gotsomeold Stats: 175/127.6/GOAL at 128, size six fits! 5'4, 60yo WOE: JUDDD, PHD Start Date: LC/EFGT - 9/15/11, JUDDD - 1/1/12	I use MDs to rearrange my rotation if family/friend things pop up with some lead time. But I find MDs do slow my weight loss. So, at some family events that fall on DDs, I eat a salad and just-say-no.

04-04-2012, 04:36 AM	#18
sunday Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Heartland- smack dab in the middle Posts: 4,525 Gallery: sunday Stats: 225/145/ ... WOE: Perfect Health Diet- 16hr Daily Fast Start Date: JUDDD - 2/01/12 Began at 200, Goal 130	I agree on the slow losses, I threw in 3 MD in the last 3 weeks and my losses slowed down quite a bit. On every MD, it was a surprise get together or dinner that I really had no more than a day's notice. The idea that I can do this, when something arises makes JUDDD so much more easy to stay with than previous WLP.