Question about DD's

melisa82 · 04-01-2012, 12:49 PM

Is it better to eat up to your alloted calories, or eat little to nothing on DD's?

Depending on what % I chose I can have from 435-870 calories. I've been eating less than 300... is that OK?

Stitch · 04-01-2012, 01:06 PM

I think it's better to fast if you can but I'd like to see what someone with experience has to say. I also want to throw in another question.

If you fast on your DD's, does that have any effect on your UP cals?

babykinz · 04-01-2012, 01:07 PM

No expert here but from what I read on these boards ( my book still hasnt gotten here ) being below on your DD is okay, its your UD that you should really try and get as close to that number as possible, or alittle more.

I would shoot for the lower of your DD and use the 20% from the calculator.

gotsomeold · 04-01-2012, 01:18 PM

As less food is eaten, most bodies produce more sirtuin enzymes - which is what we want.

Some people can fast, feel great, and lose weight.

However, some people lose better eating their DD calories (or below or even a bit above) than they lose when fasting. Each metabolism is different. And - joy of joys - this is an opportunity to learn what is best for YOU.

MintQ8 · 04-01-2012, 02:49 PM

Agree with Nancy!!

gharkness · 04-01-2012, 05:14 PM

Yeah, I am not going to completely fast on my DD (though I understand that those who do are just fine and it might work for you, too). My DD 's are when I know that every calorie I eat has plenty of nutrition, because I'm not gonna waste a single calorie on a DD.

On UD's I can be found eating a lot of things that aren't necessarily all that great for me, though I am getting WAY better at that, and I still have an eye for nutrition.

So, in answer to your question, I would start with making sure my UD calories were on target, and THEN eat between zero and your DD allotment on alternate days. See how your body handles that, and go from there. There's just nothing about this that is super-restrictive, and you learn as you go along.

melisa82 · 04-01-2012, 05:22 PM

I always eat my UD calories. It's usually a struggle as the "magic" kicked in and I'm not very hungry. I'm also doing JUDDD low-carb, so I always eat "clean". I was just wondering if I ate no calories or sum calories, if it would hurt or help my progress.

gharkness · 04-01-2012, 05:27 PM

Give it a try and see! We're all different.

And let us know how it works as you go along!

b_lou_who · 04-01-2012, 05:48 PM

Juddd is just a recommendation for intermittent fasting.if I recall the number correctly Dr Johnson is referencing the discovery that on fast days we can eat up to 35% of up day (normal eating) and still get the benefit of sirt1 gene activation for health benefits. The lower you are the closer you are to true fasting but that shouldn't matter once the gene is on and sirtuin enzymes continue to get produced. So if you are feeling a true fast day go ahead but don't stress to get there.
It is the combo of a full normal up day plus a fast/down day that makes it work.

Yam-Yam · 04-01-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by melisa82

I always eat my UD calories. It's usually a struggle as the "magic" kicked in and I'm not very hungry. I'm also doing JUDDD low-carb, so I always eat "clean". I was just wondering if I ate no calories or sum calories, if it would hurt or help my progress.

If you can eat no calories on DDs it will HELP. Dr. J only gave the percentages because he knew most people are not able to fast completely. But fasting is best on DDs. I can do it every now and then, but only if I've had a really nutritious UD the day before where I ate all of my UD calories. Then I'm fine. HTH!

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04-01-2012, 01:06 PM	#2
Stitch Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 137 Gallery: Stitch Stats: 141/123.2/105 WOE: Very low carb switched to JUDDD Start Date: 2nd February '12	I think it's better to fast if you can but I'd like to see what someone with experience has to say. I also want to throw in another question. If you fast on your DD's, does that have any effect on your UP cals?

04-01-2012, 01:07 PM	#3
babykinz Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pensacola FL Posts: 1,711 Gallery: babykinz Stats: 244/212/145--5'2 49yo WOE: JUDDD Start Date: 2/28/12-----Name ~Pia~	No expert here but from what I read on these boards ( my book still hasnt gotten here ) being below on your DD is okay, its your UD that you should really try and get as close to that number as possible, or alittle more. I would shoot for the lower of your DD and use the 20% from the calculator.

04-01-2012, 01:18 PM	#4
gotsomeold Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Asheville, NC / Marietta, Ga Posts: 3,287 Gallery: gotsomeold Stats: 175/127.6/GOAL at 128, size six fits! 5'4, 60yo WOE: JUDDD, PHD Start Date: LC/EFGT - 9/15/11, JUDDD - 1/1/12	As less food is eaten, most bodies produce more sirtuin enzymes - which is what we want. Some people can fast, feel great, and lose weight. However, some people lose better eating their DD calories (or below or even a bit above) than they lose when fasting. Each metabolism is different. And - joy of joys - this is an opportunity to learn what is best for YOU.

04-01-2012, 02:49 PM	#5
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04-01-2012, 05:14 PM	#6
gharkness Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 1,679 Gallery: gharkness WOE: RNY Gastric Bypass 02-02-2007	Yeah, I am not going to completely fast on my DD (though I understand that those who do are just fine and it might work for you, too). My DD 's are when I know that every calorie I eat has plenty of nutrition, because I'm not gonna waste a single calorie on a DD. On UD's I can be found eating a lot of things that aren't necessarily all that great for me, though I am getting WAY better at that, and I still have an eye for nutrition. So, in answer to your question, I would start with making sure my UD calories were on target, and THEN eat between zero and your DD allotment on alternate days. See how your body handles that, and go from there. There's just nothing about this that is super-restrictive, and you learn as you go along.

04-01-2012, 05:22 PM	#7
melisa82 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Seattle Area Posts: 897 Gallery: melisa82 Stats: 5'6" SW 244 CW Too Much GW 160 WOE: LC Start Date: 3/27/12	I always eat my UD calories. It's usually a struggle as the "magic" kicked in and I'm not very hungry. I'm also doing JUDDD low-carb, so I always eat "clean". I was just wondering if I ate no calories or sum calories, if it would hurt or help my progress.

04-01-2012, 05:27 PM	#8
gharkness Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 1,679 Gallery: gharkness WOE: RNY Gastric Bypass 02-02-2007	Give it a try and see! We're all different. And let us know how it works as you go along!