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Old 03-13-2012, 04:46 AM   #1
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Is it really that easy?

Because of medical reasons, I've gained back 20 of the 66 I lost. I've been LC'ing for a week and I'm down maybe a pound (haven't weighed yet) as you can imagine, I'm very frustrated.

I was considering doing HCG, but took a side trip into this forum to see what JUDDD is all about.

Is it really that simple? 1 day at 25%to 30% of your calories then 1 day at normal calorie levels?

I'm going to see if I can find the book I saw mentioned here somewhere, but is that basically it?

I'm sure eating at that low of calories isn't "simple" so please don't take it that way.

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Old 03-13-2012, 05:08 AM   #2
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Just thought I'd add, I just weighed & it's the same as last Tuesday
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Yep, it's basically that simple. Google Johnson Up Down Day Diet and you will find the website with some basic info and the calculator to determine your caloric needs. Generally the first two weeks you stay at or below 500 cals for your down day (it's not even hard after the first one) and then eat up to your up day numbers. Most of us try to get close to the up day numbers w/o going over. GL!
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Old 03-13-2012, 05:29 AM   #4
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I was just reading. My 2 week DD's should be just under 500 calories. The page also recommends meal replacement shakes for the DD's for the first 2 weeks. I can do that.

Off to read some more, this is really interesting!
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Old 03-13-2012, 05:35 AM   #5
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The website recommends shakes/bars for ease of transition and calorie counting. It's not necessary and most people on this site didn't do it. I just went straight to my regular LC stuff, which normally does include an atkins bar. So don't feel like you must eat shakes/bars.
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Old 03-13-2012, 05:38 AM   #6
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Is it really that easy?

For most of us, yep.

Check out the website - it explains a lot of the what/how (including how JUDDD has some amazing health benefits)

The book gets into the science. I find it fascinating. There is some real & strong science behind this simple plan.
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You don't need to do the shakes - most of us didn't/don't - unless they're convenient.

I personally would rather get more bang for my buck and eat real food!!!

There's some great threads on the board - have a good read!!

and good luck with whatever plan you need to do!
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:23 AM   #8
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I was one that did induction with the shakes. The reasoning behind the shakes is that you don't have to worry about counting calories. You are supposed to sip the shakes all days long instead of drinking them all at once. It was not hard and not having to be concerned with what each food contained calorie wise was a good thing.

But no you don't have to use shakes. He really says shakes in the actual diet portion of the book. He mentiions bars in passing earlier in the book so I only used shakes. I used Atkins shakes and made some at home with protein powder I had on hand.

And I do find JUDDD to be that easy. There is a sticky with the calculators so they are easy to find.
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:54 AM   #9
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I just started a few days ago. I've done two down days and I'm finding it surprisingly easy. I'm not hungry on the down days which I find nice but weird. I'm hungrier on the up days. I was scared to start but am really glad I did. I'm enjoying it so far.
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Old 03-13-2012, 10:06 AM   #10
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I am also a newbie, doing my second DD today - enjoyed a delicious bowl of cream of wheat, and will be incorporating a shake and an Atkins bar through the rest of my day, along with an orange for my evening snack. I didn't even finish my breakfast until noontime, and yesterday's UD was so full of food that I think my body is still trying to digest it!! I am really enjoying this WOE; I can indulge in foods that were so off-limits when I did LC, so hopefully you will do great with this WOE also!
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Old 03-13-2012, 10:10 AM   #11
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Hi Momto2 - to JUDDD Yes, you have the gist of it down to its bare-bones, and it's all quite simple. Unlike many other diet plans, you don't have to buy any special products, you don't have a forbidden food list. No fee to join the plan. It's very simple and very freeing, and for some that makes it bewildering almost, and a little scary sometimes because there is so much freedom. Nobody telling you what to eat and how much, only yourself to look to in that regard. That's one reason why JUDDD is so wonderful. You get to choose what you eat, whether Twinkies, Big Macs, whale blubber, vegetables, or tofu - JUDDD is only concerned that you cycle your calories, wherever they are coming from.

You basically eat normally one day, eat a lot less the next and repeat.

This simple woe has helped me lose the last 5# to goal weight and then go on to lose an additional 10# in maintenance. It has helped me look and feel better.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:13 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by Momto2boysNJ View Post
Because of medical reasons, I've gained back 20 of the 66 I lost. I've been LC'ing for a week and I'm down maybe a pound (haven't weighed yet) as you can imagine, I'm very frustrated.

I was considering doing HCG, but took a side trip into this forum to see what JUDDD is all about.

Is it really that simple? 1 day at 25%to 30% of your calories then 1 day at normal calorie levels?

I'm going to see if I can find the book I saw mentioned here somewhere, but is that basically it?

I'm sure eating at that low of calories isn't "simple" so please don't take it that way.

Thanks!
yes, that easy but figuring out the UP day cals is not so easy. Dr. J. says when using the calculator pick one level less of exercise than what you really do since most people overestimate their activity levels. that doesnt help if you pick sedentary to start with. i was stuffing way too much food the first few weeks. and no, it wasnt fun. now i am targeting exactly the cal level i know i need for stabilization; maybe a little over. and about 400 on the down days.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:30 AM   #13
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Well i do walk in the beach, not fast as I'm usually taking photos or looking for beach glass. I told that at least 3 times a week so I picked the one above no exercise.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:33 AM   #14
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And thank you everyone! I started this today. I figured out my lower carb lunch (22 carbs) is about 600 calories! (low carb wrap quesadilla) I did not realize butter has 100 calories a tablespoon!

today is an up day and tomorrow after my doc appt I will go find some shakes or something. I'm worried about coffee because I use half and half in it.

What do you do about coffee on down days? I was thinking maybe I'll skip the coffee and go right for the 5 hour energy drink instead!
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:57 AM   #15
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I drink coffee with HWC every morning. I just enter the calories. Coffee 5 calories, HWC 120 calories since my cream is 60 calories per T and I do measure it into my cup with a measuring spoon.
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Old 03-13-2012, 01:17 PM   #16
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YUP, for me "it REALLY is that easy". LC was hard, JUDDD is a piece of cake (literally sometimes )

Here is a thread with several threads that may help!!

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Old 03-13-2012, 03:38 PM   #17
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I buy the Premier Nutrition premade shakes at Costco. I'm usually a make it yourself kinda gal, but these are quick and easy for those days that I don't want to bother.

They are 160 cals and the vanilla ones have 3 g fat, 3 g carb, (1g sugar), and 30 g protein. HIghest protein I've seen in a premade shake. Taste good too...a little like marshmellows to me.
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Old 03-13-2012, 03:58 PM   #18
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On DD's when I am somewhere away from home or work (like a livestock show) I take Atkins Shakes with me so I can remain low calorie without having to worry about finding something to eat. Worked great when I was at a show a couple of weeks ago. In fact, I only drank one and weater and diet coke the rest of the time until I got home.
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Old 03-13-2012, 04:02 PM   #19
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when doing LC I would get the protein powder from walmart & make it with half and half. I also used Almond Milk... maybe I'll go get some of that... But I definitely will be checking my costco for those shakes DD, thanks!
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Old 03-13-2012, 04:03 PM   #20
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yeah I do craft shows. I'll have to make sure I have shakes for those days if it's a DD day.
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