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Old 03-04-2012, 05:35 PM   #1
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Cooking Oil...

One thing I haven't been able to find an answer for is this: When we use oil to cook with, it's generally 120 calories per tablespoon (+/-). I've been adding that number to the rest of the calories in the dish, but wonder whether it cooks off and I don't need to add them, or am I doing it the 'right' way as a part of the total calories? Seems to be a lot of calories for something that may be 'gone' before the dish is consumed!
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:36 PM   #2
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I add them. I don't think they burn off. If you want a lower calorie option, try cooking spray on down days and real oil or butter on up days. HTH.
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I always cook with olive oil. I measure it. If I cook two filets of tilapia in two TBLSP oil, I count one TBLSP per filet. IMO most of the oil gets absorbed into the fish or eggs or whatever I'm cooking. I always use a non stick pan so I don't need too much oil.
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:57 PM   #4
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Yeah, I think I knew that would be the case but in my heart of hearts I REALLY wanted to have a different answer!!! And I really should start using cooking spray... I don't know why I haven't! Thanks!
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Oils & fats don't *cook off*, so if the oil is incorporated into the food you are making, you have to add all those calories in. However, if half of the oil would be left in the pan when you remove your cooked food, and you won't be eating that remaining oil left in the pan, than just try to estimate.. like probably half of the oil left in the pan.

But, spray Pam type oils can save you a lot of cals.

Also, if you only do that type of cooking on your UDs, where the oil/fat calories will fit in better, and choose food preparation methods that don't call for extra oil on DDs, that will help you work fats into your food plan easily. We certainly need our fats. Just not a whole lot on DDs.
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Why can't someone come up with a water-based oil that steams away when it's done it's job??!!!

We don't use a lot of oil, but it's just the 120 cals (or more!) that's upsetting. But it does make the food cook and taste better, especially when we use the garlic-infused oil. It works great in the cabbage dish, adding just a bit more flavor. I just wish it didn't use 1/5 of my calorie bank for the day!! (Does anyone else talk about calories in monetary terms?? I'm always referring to how much a certain food item 'costs' meaning how many calories it has!)
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I always "budget" my calories.
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I eat 1T of coconut oil everyday and I don't count it. If I use more than that I do. Because of the way coconut oil is s lot of people don't count up to 3T. I have read about it before but its been awhile. I stopped using it on DDs for awhile and then added it back and got down to msintanance. I lose better when I eat coconut oil everyday. Other than that tho I count it all and I usually use the olive oil spray to cook with.
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I use chicken broth to cook my food on down days. The one I get from Costco is 0 cal for one cup.
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I eat 1T of coconut oil everyday and I don't count it. If I use more than that I do. Because of the way coconut oil is s lot of people don't count up to 3T. I have read about it before but its been awhile. I stopped using it on DDs for awhile and then added it back and got down to msintanance. I lose better when I eat coconut oil everyday. Other than that tho I count it all and I usually use the olive oil spray to cook with.
What is it about coconut oil that you don't count it?? I have heard this, could you explain it to me?
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I eat 1T of coconut oil everyday and I don't count it. If I use more than that I do. Because of the way coconut oil is s lot of people don't count up to 3T. I have read about it before but its been awhile. I stopped using it on DDs for awhile and then added it back and got down to msintanance. I lose better when I eat coconut oil everyday. Other than that tho I count it all and I usually use the olive oil spray to cook with.
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What is it about coconut oil that you don't count it?? I have heard this, could you explain it to me?
I would like to know this answer, too. A calorie is a calorie and they just don't "disappear". Sure, I sometimes don't count a pickle for 5 calories but to not count a TBS of coconut oil that is 120 calorie? How can this many calories not be counted?
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I've heard it before, but don't believe it.


Here's one explanation, from Miracle Skinny Drop's coconut oil page (won't link because it has ads)

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The coconut oil can be used every day. You don’t need to count the calories in coconut oil. The oil is used for energy in our bodies and not stored as fat. Most notice a loss in inches but some do see a loss in fat as well.

Most fats are made up of fatty acids linked together in relatively long chains and are stored in our bodies for energy later. (Fat is basically stored energy in our bodies) So, most oils are fat stored in our bodies. Coconut Oil on the other hand is a shorter molecule known as a medium chained molecule. It is immediately burned as energy and does not store as fat in our bodies.
Here's another explanation, from Coconut Connections: Weight Loss using Virgin Coconut Oil, information, research and results

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When people go on diets to lose weight, the foods that are restricted most are those which contain the most fat. Why is fat singled out? We know it is high in calories, but there is also another reason. Because of the way it is digested and utilized in our bodies, it contributes the most to body fat. The fat we eat is the fat we wear – literally.

When we eat fat, the fat is broken down into individual fatty acids and repackaged into small bundles of fat and protein called lipoproteins. These lipoproteins are sent into the bloodstream where the fatty acids are deposited directly into our fat cells. Other nutrients such as carbohydrate and protein are broken down and used immediately for energy or tissue building. Only when we eat too much is the excess carbohydrate and protein converted into fat. As long as we eat enough to satisfy energy needs, fat in our food always ends up as fat in our cells. Only between meals when physical activity outpaces energy reserves is fat removed from storage and burned for fuel.

MCFA, however, are digested and utilized differently. They are not packaged into lipoproteins and do not circulate in the bloodstream like other fats, but are sent directly to the liver where they are immediately converted into energy – just like a carbohydrate. So when you eat coconut oil, the body uses it immediately to make energy rather than store it as body fat. As a consequence, you can eat much more coconut oil than you can other oils before the excess is converted into fat. It has been well documented in numerous studies using both animals and humans that replacing LCFA with MCFA results in a decrease in body weight gain and a reduction in fat deposition.
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Synger: Thanks for those quotes. I have heard Dr. Oz talk a lot lately about Virgin Coconut oil on his show lately. He has really switched his position, as he used to say it was bad for you and now he says it's good for you and good for weight loss.

And, he also says that coconut oil is not stored as fat at all.

I try to have one teaspoon per day. I use Nestle's 20 calorie fat free hot chocolate and stir the co into it. However, I DO count it. There are 4 teaspoons in a tablespoon, so I figure out the calories that way. It's a good buy. I find that it kills my appetite.

One thing I also read about CO is that it is thermogenic. That means it raises the heat in our bodies and burns more calories after we consume it. I noticed when I first started using it that I got really, really warm soon after having it. And, I feel more energy for a long time after. It perks me up!

IMO it's a pretty good buy calorie wise. Just don't go overboard. Oh, and eggs or chicken or fish taste awesome when you cook with it.

BTW: I read that you should not heat it in the microwave as it destroys some of the health related properties of the oil.
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I've heard it before, but don't believe it.
Yea, I'm of the same mind here. I can just see me thinking those coconut oil don't count, using them freely like I would, and gaining weight!

No thanks, I'll stick to these good oils; olive oil, coconut oil, butter, in moderation on my UDs and keep using my cooking spray on the DDs. I have even found a coconut oil cooking spray but was too pricey for me!
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I don't count only the first T and I actually lose and maintain better when I have it. Synger thank you for posting the links. I'm always on my kindle so its hard to post things like that but I totally believe in it after experimenting not using on DDs and using it and not counting it. It has not made me gain at all. On DDs I put it in my protein shake and drink half in the morning and half in the afternoon. On UDs I either make a OMM for breakfast and use it on that or put it in my coffee. I can understand not believing but try it and sr. How it affects you. I wont go without it now.
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My belief about coconut oil is that it's a good and healthful medium-chain fat, and of good benefit to our bodies in reasonable and moderate amounts.

And it may (or may not) be completely used for energy and not stored as fat. I won't comment on that.

But, if you eat much of it, I think it would be a real mistake to just dismiss the calories you are taking in from it, because while IT may not be stored as fat, it will still count as calories, and if you're eating too many calories, something is going to get stored as fat. It just pushes the dirty job of being designated *the calories to be turned into fat* onto some other food.

If you've still got a lot of room for extra calories, you won't have any worries, but if you're close to your limits and adding this oil in much quantity and not counting it at all, it may really slow weight loss down for you.

I occasionally use it too, and I like it. Mostly I use it as a fat in cooking. But I count the calories in it.

But JMO here.
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I think there are only 3 tsps per Tbs
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I think there are only 3 tsps per Tbs
Agreed.

Thank you all for the info on coconut oil. I use it for oil pulling every morning. I am going to try 1 tsp of it in the morning as well and see how that works for me. I will count the 40 calories. But I allow myself UP TO 600 on DD's. So it should fit in fine, I usually don't go above 500
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