UD number.. do we reduce as we lose?

sterlinggirl · 03-04-2012, 04:36 AM

I went to the dr.j site put in my age 45 and 211.6 with little or no activity at 5.9 and it says to eat 2027 up and 405 dd.. so heres my question.. as we lose ( which in 4 days ive lost 3.6 pds) do we go back and input the new weight and re-calculate?

SoHappy · 03-04-2012, 05:22 AM

Most only do that if and when they have to. And you'll know when that time comes if you've been losing weight pretty decently, and then finally you reach a time when loss slows and is threatening to stop. LOL

If you have a lot of weight to lose, you may have to lower your calories a time or two, but don't rush into it. And you may lose all the way to goal weight just fine at the calorie number your start at. It's nice not to go any lower than you have to.

sterlinggirl · 03-04-2012, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SoHappy

Most only do that if and when they have to. And you'll know when that time comes if you've been losing weight pretty decently, and then finally you reach a time when loss slows and is threatening to stop. LOL

If you have a lot of weight to lose, you may have to lower your calories a time or two, but don't rush into it. And you may lose all the way to goal weight just fine at the calorie number your start at. It's nice not to go any lower than you have to.

Thanks Pat.. i noticed that you always have great ideas or information on this diet / life style.. how long may i ask have you been doing this? and what have you lost doing so?

Hazelsmrf · 03-04-2012, 09:08 AM

I've just reduced mine after losing 25 pounds. I wouldn't bother with doing it for 3 pounds though!

KeirasMom · 03-04-2012, 09:25 AM

I've reduced mine twice, and only when weight loss slowed a little bit. I think it was at around the one and two month marks. But I have a LOT to lose, so I'm a little OCD about my numbers.

sterlinggirl · 03-05-2012, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KeirasMom

I've reduced mine twice, and only when weight loss slowed a little bit. I think it was at around the one and two month marks. But I have a LOT to lose, so I'm a little OCD about my numbers.

Thanks julie.. and Dawn.. i think i will be OCD about my number as well.. i have alredy tryed to experiment with an UD to see what the scale will do, and now after this DD i will try to do my next UD a lil differnt and see if that pattern works.. after the first UD i did not gain.. but with yeterdays i will call a cheat.. cuz im still doing LC with it.. i did gain 1.6 pounds.. so i cant wait for the next UD to see if can control the gains.. might not be able to.. but its fun to try and crunch the numbers and see what i can control

thomasina838 · 03-05-2012, 01:32 PM

i would expect that recalculating every 10 lbs or so would be enough.

sterlinggirl · 03-07-2012, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by thomasina838

i would expect that recalculating every 10 lbs or so would be enough.

thanks.. i think i will try to stick with what i have at least till that 10 pound mark,, see how i feel and how long does it take for a 10 pound loss to happen.. hope its soon!!

MintQ8 · 03-07-2012, 04:37 AM

I'm doing my utmost to not reduce my calories until I have to. I have probably 'officially' dropped a couple of 100 cals (I have a lot to lose too). But I don't worry if I go back up on occasion.

I'll only really review the cals, if I stop losing weight!

sterlinggirl · 03-07-2012, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MintQ8

I'm doing my utmost to not reduce my calories until I have to. I have probably 'officially' dropped a couple of 100 cals (I have a lot to lose too). But I don't worry if I go back up on occasion.

I'll only really review the cals, if I stop losing weight!

good to know.. ive just start this plan 6 days ago, and it maybe a quirk but i noticed that the scale maintained a loss after an up with lower calories, so im am currently experimenting with using that number to see if can keep it losing and not bouncing up so much.. seeing as im a daily scale jumper.lol.. so far the reduced cals. only reusulted in a half pound gain from one day to the next.. i look forward to tomorw to see how much i lose after todays DD.. keep ya all posted.. so far in 6 days lost 4 pounds on this way of eating.. i think i may be able to reach a new goal of 200 by end of month.. a where before that goal would have been put out to end of april at the rate i was goin.. im so excited

gotsomeold · 03-07-2012, 05:27 AM

Experiment as you will my friend. Just remember if you stall think UP not DOWN.

synger · 03-07-2012, 06:03 AM

At 260, it tells me my UD calories should be 2200
When I plug in 150 (my goal) it says 1660.

I currently aim between 1800 and 2000, and lose pretty steadily when I stay on-plan. I'm not too worried about lowering the number, and probably won't worry about it until I see Onederland.

Beeb · 03-07-2012, 07:44 PM

Well, I guess I'm the exception to the "rule" because I never lowered my calories, ever. As a matter of fact I upped my calories to stop losing weight when I reached 11 pounds below my goal.

I really just never thought to do it, so I didn't!

MintQ8 · 03-08-2012, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlinggirl

good to know.. ive just start this plan 6 days ago, and it maybe a quirk but i noticed that the scale maintained a loss after an up with lower calories, so im am currently experimenting with using that number to see if can keep it losing and not bouncing up so much.. seeing as im a daily scale jumper.lol.. so far the reduced cals. only reusulted in a half pound gain from one day to the next.. i look forward to tomorw to see how much i lose after todays DD.. keep ya all posted.. so far in 6 days lost 4 pounds on this way of eating.. i think i may be able to reach a new goal of 200 by end of month.. a where before that goal would have been put out to end of april at the rate i was goin.. im so excited

I think you may be too focused on what the scales say after an UD. It's going to bounce all over the place - accept it - and JUDDD will be a more peaceful journey, fight it and it will drive you crazy.

I say this because you have only been on the diet 6 days. This is like having been on any Low Cal diet at the start - great weight loss (for most).

I wouldn't force the UD cals - but I wouldn't let UD cals and the bounce up on the scales scare you either - it truly is the overall pattern.

In the last 2 days, I have lost the following - and there appears to be no rhyme or rason - 4 lbs after an UD and then a further 1.4lbs after a DD.

Today - because I'm with friends and one of those friends is a wine connoisseur - my UD cals are 900 over my UD 'levels'. I won't be home tomorrow am to weigh - but if I was - of course I would expect a rise - maybe 4lbs??!!! However, after a great DD tomorrow - it'll be gone.

I may not have lost anymore weight - but I've lost so well in the previous days, I wouldn't expect it anyway.

Hopefully, by the end of next week I'll be down more - but some days (normally after an UD) I may see the odd blip. It's OKAY!!

gotsomeold · 03-08-2012, 06:19 AM

Last May, we spent a week in Napa and Sonoma with friends who are fanatical oenophiles. It is so much fun being guided by connoisseurs!

adillenal · 03-08-2012, 06:25 AM

I have actually done the opposite. I lost over 10 pounds and raised my DD and UD calories and I am losing. AND I never pay any attention to the up and down weights although I weigh everyday and write it down on my calendar. It really is true that everyone reacts differently to the calories on UD's and DD's.

sterlinggirl · 03-08-2012, 06:26 AM

Well after reading all of these posts i have decided to take your advise and just leave it be for a while... I am also starting on Sunday to only take a weight once a week.. that way i can be "surprized" lol.. This has been fun i tell ya. and i do realize that at some point the scale is goin to not give me what i would like to see.. i am preparing to wrap my mind around a 1-2 pound loss per week at 1900cal on an up day and 400 or under on a DD.. my quesiton here is .. 1-2 pounds per week.. is that the norm??

carla70 · 03-08-2012, 09:13 AM

sterlinggirl - we started about the same time and are about the same weight. So far I am loving it. I biggest surprise is the amount of calories I get on UP - just went and calculated and it said 2034 and DD 407.

I went a bit over yesterday on DD by 30 calories. Each day is learning and I am surprised how I am not real hungry on DD like I thought I would be.

Good Luck and you are doing GREAT!

sterlinggirl · 03-09-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by carla70

sterlinggirl - we started about the same time and are about the same weight. So far I am loving it. I biggest surprise is the amount of calories I get on UP - just went and calculated and it said 2034 and DD 407.

I went a bit over yesterday on DD by 30 calories. Each day is learning and I am surprised how I am not real hungry on DD like I thought I would be.

Good Luck and you are doing GREAT!

Well that mean then we are twins

..

I tell ya.. i am so exctied that my life long goal will be made possible by finding this WOE>> i will look forward to tracking your sucess seeing as we are in it at the same or close numbers Kimberly~

Kissa · 03-10-2012, 03:20 AM

go you two.

03-04-2012, 04:36 AM	#1
sterlinggirl Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Midland. Michigan Posts: 1,911 Gallery: sterlinggirl Stats: 225/166.8 5'9 46 age 155 End WOE: 4-2013 Searching for new WOE/JUDDD Start Date: Jan 2012. Name Kimberly	UD number.. do we reduce as we lose? I went to the dr.j site put in my age 45 and 211.6 with little or no activity at 5.9 and it says to eat 2027 up and 405 dd.. so heres my question.. as we lose ( which in 4 days ive lost 3.6 pds) do we go back and input the new weight and re-calculate?

03-04-2012, 05:22 AM	#2
SoHappy Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 17,934 Gallery: SoHappy Stats: obese/slimmer WOE: JUDDD!!!	Most only do that if and when they have to. And you'll know when that time comes if you've been losing weight pretty decently, and then finally you reach a time when loss slows and is threatening to stop. LOL If you have a lot of weight to lose, you may have to lower your calories a time or two, but don't rush into it. And you may lose all the way to goal weight just fine at the calorie number your start at. It's nice not to go any lower than you have to. __________________ Best wishes, Pat

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03-04-2012, 09:08 AM	#4
Hazelsmrf Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Montreal, QC Posts: 3,609 Gallery: Hazelsmrf Stats: 303/209/150 WOE: VSG surgery Start Date: November 8th 2012	I've just reduced mine after losing 25 pounds. I wouldn't bother with doing it for 3 pounds though!

03-04-2012, 09:25 AM	#5
KeirasMom Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 7,319 Gallery: KeirasMom Stats: 277.6/155-159/165, 5'9", 40 y.o., Hypothyroid WOE: In Place of a Roadmap Start Date: Maintenance 1/23/13	I've reduced mine twice, and only when weight loss slowed a little bit. I think it was at around the one and two month marks. But I have a LOT to lose, so I'm a little OCD about my numbers.

03-05-2012, 01:32 PM	#7
thomasina838 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 145 Gallery: thomasina838 WOE: JUDDD & paleo Start Date: 16 Feb 2012	i would expect that recalculating every 10 lbs or so would be enough.

03-07-2012, 04:37 AM	#9
MintQ8 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gold Coast, the Land Down Under Posts: 4,169 Gallery: MintQ8 Stats: 264.6/220.2/140 WOE: Paul McKenna's Hypnotic Gastric Bypass Start Date: 23 February 2013	I'm doing my utmost to not reduce my calories until I have to. I have probably 'officially' dropped a couple of 100 cals (I have a lot to lose too). But I don't worry if I go back up on occasion. I'll only really review the cals, if I stop losing weight!

03-07-2012, 05:27 AM	#11
gotsomeold Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Asheville, NC / Marietta, Ga Posts: 3,287 Gallery: gotsomeold Stats: 175/127.6/GOAL at 128, size six fits! 5'4, 60yo WOE: JUDDD, PHD Start Date: LC/EFGT - 9/15/11, JUDDD - 1/1/12	Experiment as you will my friend. Just remember if you stall think UP not DOWN.

03-07-2012, 06:03 AM	#12
synger Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,227 Gallery: synger Stats: Start: 310 Current: 259 WOE: Calorie and carb counting, IR Diet framework Start Date: IR/PCOS: Dx pre-diabetic 3/2010	At 260, it tells me my UD calories should be 2200 When I plug in 150 (my goal) it says 1660. I currently aim between 1800 and 2000, and lose pretty steadily when I stay on-plan. I'm not too worried about lowering the number, and probably won't worry about it until I see Onederland.

03-07-2012, 07:44 PM	#13
Beeb Why wait, just do it NOW! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where Super Storm Sandy Wiped Out All My Childhood Memories!! Posts: 11,757 Gallery: Beeb Stats: 152 WOE: Thintuition - Intuitive Eating	Well, I guess I'm the exception to the "rule" because I never lowered my calories, ever. As a matter of fact I upped my calories to stop losing weight when I reached 11 pounds below my goal. I really just never thought to do it, so I didn't!

03-08-2012, 06:19 AM	#15
gotsomeold Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Asheville, NC / Marietta, Ga Posts: 3,287 Gallery: gotsomeold Stats: 175/127.6/GOAL at 128, size six fits! 5'4, 60yo WOE: JUDDD, PHD Start Date: LC/EFGT - 9/15/11, JUDDD - 1/1/12	Last May, we spent a week in Napa and Sonoma with friends who are fanatical oenophiles. It is so much fun being guided by connoisseurs!

03-08-2012, 06:25 AM	#16
adillenal Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 7,104 Gallery: adillenal	I have actually done the opposite. I lost over 10 pounds and raised my DD and UD calories and I am losing. AND I never pay any attention to the up and down weights although I weigh everyday and write it down on my calendar. It really is true that everyone reacts differently to the calories on UD's and DD's.

03-08-2012, 06:26 AM	#17
sterlinggirl Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Midland. Michigan Posts: 1,911 Gallery: sterlinggirl Stats: 225/166.8 5'9 46 age 155 End WOE: 4-2013 Searching for new WOE/JUDDD Start Date: Jan 2012. Name Kimberly	Well after reading all of these posts i have decided to take your advise and just leave it be for a while... I am also starting on Sunday to only take a weight once a week.. that way i can be "surprized" lol.. This has been fun i tell ya. and i do realize that at some point the scale is goin to not give me what i would like to see.. i am preparing to wrap my mind around a 1-2 pound loss per week at 1900cal on an up day and 400 or under on a DD.. my quesiton here is .. 1-2 pounds per week.. is that the norm??

03-08-2012, 09:13 AM	#18
carla70 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Northern Minnesota Posts: 1,561 Gallery: carla70 Stats: 215/215/150 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: 03/10/2013	sterlinggirl - we started about the same time and are about the same weight. So far I am loving it. I biggest surprise is the amount of calories I get on UP - just went and calculated and it said 2034 and DD 407. I went a bit over yesterday on DD by 30 calories. Each day is learning and I am surprised how I am not real hungry on DD like I thought I would be. Good Luck and you are doing GREAT!

03-10-2012, 03:20 AM	#20
Kissa Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 16,464 Gallery: Kissa Stats: 184/124/126 5'3" Age 65 WOE: JUDDD/5:2 Start Date: 2001 Atkins -50 2011 JUDDD - 10	go you two.