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Old 02-03-2012, 01:44 PM   #1
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3500 calories equal 1 pound

I was just thinking when I did lc it was about carbs and not so much calories so you kept your carbs low in hopes of losing weight. You knew if you went to high you could have a big gain. It did not mater if you exercised or not if you had to many carbs this would result in a gain most of the time. Now Juddd we are calorie cycling so does exercise have anything to do with this since 3500 calories equal a pound and since I am cutting calories and exercising should that put you in a deficeit(sp)? How does the Juddd woe work in regards to this? Inquiring minds like minds want to know.

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Old 02-03-2012, 02:19 PM   #2
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not sure! I'm still not a huge fan of the calories in calories out formula! Even though it seems to be working!!!

I think that there is something about good quality calories and also that not all calories are created equal!

However, re exercise - with cal in/cal out plans I imagine that any exercise you do, will and can help - not hinder.

The only problem I can see is that if you don't truly exercise at a high level - if you allow exercise to allow you to have an increase in calories - you won't lose weight as fast.

I may not be answering your question correctly here - sorry.

I think that a lot comes down to your choice - if you exercise more - the theory is you can eat more - if that helps you and you can continue to lose weight - do it!

Aaaagh- this doesn't really make much sense - sorry, brain not working right!
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:23 PM   #3
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The weeks where I exercise (and note I do NOT eat back my exercise calories) I lose a little better. I do think it helps to create a bigger deficit.
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:31 PM   #4
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I don't allow myself to eat more after exercise even though I am in maintenance. If I were a serious runner I might change that, but 3 or so aerobic/weight classes a week is not a reason to up calories. Sadly.
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Exercise helps make the body more efficient, in increases the number of mitochondria ( energy making cells) so that you can burn your fuel more efficiently, meaning you need less fuel eventually. weight exercises stress your muscles to repair and rebuild, more muscle means more tissue to burn the fuel you take in and making that muscle efficient means you need less fuel.

So yes, exercise helps, but it's not a direct relationship with how many calories you burn today, but how much you make your body more efficient at burning those calories. A dude was eating twice his daily calories for 2 months and doing NO exercise but his body built more muscle so his body was able to burn off almost all of the extra calories as heat and he didn't gain much weight at all. 3500calories in his case did NOT equal a pound, because his body built muscle and burned it. That's just from building more muscles naturally , so if we can build more muscles through muscle building activities, it would surely help in making it so you can eat less fuel to work your body.
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:48 PM   #6
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Hey Metqa, good to see you. Going to pop in and take a look at your journal, it helped my so much when I first started JUDDDing.
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I don't eat back my calories anymore but I did the first two weeks of JUDDDing. It was the only way I felt like I could make it work for me and it worked well.
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Hey Kissa, I just posted today, started reducing plan today. Hope I don't disappoint. I need to get back to my exercises as well.
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Lol, Metqa, at least there was today's post...
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I never eat back what I burn off I find that for me it would be a waste of time . I was trying to figure out how juddd works. Example......if my dd is 500 and I burn off 700 should I expect to loose the next day?
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Old 02-03-2012, 04:05 PM   #11
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I think you'll lose more, but it won't necessarily be the next day. There are a lot of factors at play. When I exercise, I end up retaining water for a day or two if I work hard enough to make my muscles sore, so I won't generally see a loss for a few days.
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:31 PM   #12
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With JUDDD you should never "expect" to lose the next day after a Down Day, It's not that cut and dry plain and simple. Many people get upset because their weight fluctuations are a day or two behind what they suppose they should be. A difference of 200 calories on one day is not going to translate to instant losses the next, it's an average over time. You will eventually lose more by incorporating exercise, but you won't be able to tell until the fluctuations move more downward in your favor over a period of time, cause there is no control to compare to.

Your weight will go up and down, up and down, sometimes higher than you think it should and sometimes satisfying lows, but for me and others we would get a gain after an down day and a loss after an up day, and sometimes the scale stands still, so you can't really rely on the specific calorie deficit giving specific results in a specific amount of time.

It's more go with the flow, like watching a rubber ball bounce down the stairs in a zigzag pattern generally down.

Also I've heard people suggest exercising on updays to take advantage of the extra calories for the activity and also to burn up some of them as well.
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Old 02-04-2012, 04:19 AM   #13
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I was just trying to figure out how Juddd works in comparison to the other diets I have been on being it lc, low calorie and lowfat. It sounds like far as the scale it is all the same. When I was speaking I wasn't speaking as one who was expecting a loss or one who was exercising to eat more I was just thinking how does the woe work in correlation of calories in calories out. This is my 3rd week and in the first 2 weeks I lost 9.5 lbs and now I'm not expecting to keep losing at that rate maybe 2 pounds a week(my goal for now 180) or maybe none knowing my body make take time to get use the the fast weightloss. Not looking for fast weightloss but love that all the bounces did not happen to me in my first 2 weeks of Juddd since I was coming off of lc. I will continue to exercise b/c I love to do that especially Zumba not just for weightloss but for mental wellbeing and how it makes you look good in your clothes by toning you up. I had never heard of JUDDD and was trying to get more info on how it works.

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Old 02-04-2012, 05:22 AM   #14
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I don't pretend to understand it but it is certainly interesting,

As for Zumba, it rocks. I love it too.
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Old 02-04-2012, 06:43 AM   #15
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Well, I'm glad you got a great response to JUDDD coming directly from LC.
I think you have the right idea about the exercise. Though I don't believe 3500=1lb, I do know that exercise does make the body better so it can't hurt and we know it will help.

I understand that feeling, your just 'want' to exercise, just to move, it feels right and good. I wish I were energetic enough for Zumba, it looks like fun, but not my style.
I like bellydance and freestyle interpretive. I like music like daftpunk too, so that is energetic dance music for me.

I hope you keep getting the losses you like, even 2lb a week would be nice.
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Old 02-04-2012, 09:00 AM   #16
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Well, if it was just calories in/calories out, and 3500=1, then I should have lost 3.5 pounds my first 3 weeks on JUDDD (based on my average intake and comparing it to maintenance to get a total calorie deficit). And I've only lost 2.

I haven't lost any more calorie cycling that I would have expected to lose when I was strictly paleo (and I'm not getting to enjoy carbs, so it isn't just water weight either).

I AM glad it's working so well for you though. Enjoy!
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