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Old 02-01-2012, 10:25 AM   #1
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Calculator question and I need a hug!

Ok first - calculator question - I see that on the Dr. J site, they have percentages that go up to 45% "weight loss/maintenance" mode - so would that be the very highest percentage we could do if we're trying to lose weight, or should we stick to 35% or less? Just asking because it could mean the difference of an 800 DD and a 630 DD!

Second - I don't know why I even stupidly decided to make February "no-sugar" month. Who am I kidding? I could maybe survive that if I was still doing LC. Everyone keeps talking about getting ice cream b/c it's so nice outside. I want to cry....
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Old 02-01-2012, 10:35 AM   #2
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Old 02-01-2012, 10:41 AM   #3
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If you're really wanting to lose weight and see results quickly, I'd definitely recommend staying at 35% or below. I believe the "weight loss/maintenance" numbers are geared for people whose metabolism is really kicking - as in, this is the borderline between maintenance and weight loss, where most will maintain but some JUDDDers will still lose. If you want to definitely lose, stick with the numbers that are specifically for weight loss.

And consider yourself thoroughly hugged!! If you do want to sneak in sugar, I've found that UD late mornings are the best - if I do any goodies then, and then eat protein for the rest of the day, I don't seem to get any sugar spikes, crashes, or intense hunger on the following down day. HTH!
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Why don't you wait until later to try the no sugar month? Here's a hug for you.
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Old 02-01-2012, 10:58 AM   #5
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Katie: Dr J (not the basketball player ) recommends actual fasting on DD's, so I'd imagine for the "fastest" loss, he would recommend the lower number.
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Old 02-01-2012, 12:29 PM   #8
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Why don't you wait until later to try the no sugar month? Here's a hug for you.
You know it makes sense. You have nothing to prove. You are doing great.

Lower is better than higher if you still wish to see the scales drop.

there, there. X
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Adding a hug.

Now, as to the weight loss and the percentage, the DD number you decide on is entirely up to you. You do need to realize that Down Days are the only days we are going to be eating for any weight loss at all, so if you are only doing that every other day of the month, you darned well had better do it well!

The Up Days are just *Us.. practicing being normal, eating at the level we should maintain ourselves at, getting used to a new relationship with food, learning how to enjoy food without letting food overrule us* and all of that is important for us for our lifelong maintenance once we get to goal. We don't want to be among the many/most who get fat again. And again. We don't want to work so hard to lose it, only to find we're wearing it again in a year or two.

So while our UDs are very important (which is why we should actually count them and use them to train ourselves properly toward our successful futures in maintenance, it's the DDs where we actually lose the fat we are currently lugging around. If you don't do them well, JUDDD won't be able to give you much. We like to say it's magic.. but it's not that magic.

So the percentage of calories that you go for on your DDs is up to you, but obviously.. the fewer the better. The fewer, the faster you'll shed the pounds. The lower the DD number, the sooner you'll be done with this part and on into your maintenance, where you will enjoy not jut a slimmer size, but Down Days that no longer have to be as low, and that makes them a whole lot more enjoyable too.

Do the best you can. If you can't hold your DDs real low right here at the beginning, then add a couple hundred to your DD number. But work that down to the number you should be holding to as soon as you can. Like I said, the object is to lose the weight. You can eat for the rest of your life, and on JUDDD, that can be anything you want it to be, forever, all while remaining slim. It's a good deal. You just have to do your part.
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The Up Days are just *Us.. practicing being normal, eating at the level we should maintain ourselves at, getting used to a new relationship with food, learning how to enjoy food without letting food overrule us* and all of that is important for us for our lifelong maintenance once we get to goal...


So while our UDs are very important (which is why we should actually count them and use them to train ourselves properly toward our successful futures in maintenance
Wow... I've been JUDDDing for a couple of months now, but had never thought of my UDs this way. It really makes me stop and think. THANK YOU for sharing this. It makes a whole lot of sense!
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Old 02-01-2012, 01:06 PM   #14
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Please don't cry... Instead of trying to make February "no sugar month," why not try to make it "really low DD's with satisfying UD's month" so that you don't feel utterly deprived! Didn't Dr. J want UD's to NOT be days of deprivation? Please...don't torture yourself needlessly!!
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Please don't cry... Instead of trying to make February "no sugar month," why not try to make it "really low DD's with satisfying UD's month" so that you don't feel utterly deprived! Didn't Dr. J want UD's to NOT be days of deprivation? Please...don't torture yourself needlessly!!
you do have a point there. Maybe i'll make it "no sugar DD's". Maaaybe that I can do!
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Old 02-01-2012, 03:51 PM   #18
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Thanks for asking this because I assumed the percentages were based on the percentage of weight one needed to lose. I feel a little silly but not too much damage done. Here's a hug from me you can do it!
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Adding a hug. So the percentage of calories that you go for on your DDs is up to you, but obviously.. the fewer the better. The fewer, the faster you'll shed the pounds. The lower the DD number, the sooner you'll be done with this part and on into your maintenance, where you will enjoy not just a slimmer size, but Down Days that no longer have to be as low, and that makes them a whole lot more enjoyable too.
Thanks--I needed to hear/read this part again--I'm still eating 500 cals on my DDs, and it's a SLOW GO. I'll keep trying to lower those DD cals, and see if I can speed this process up a bit.
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Old 02-01-2012, 04:14 PM   #20
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Thanks--I needed to hear/read this part again--I'm still eating 500 cals on my DDs, and it's a SLOW GO. I'll keep trying to lower those DD cals, and see if I can speed this process up a bit.
And keep measuring and counting those UD calories. They matter. The UDs are the part that folks like to gloss over, as though a few hundred calories over or under, from not measuring, from just estimating, won't matter.. but that can affect your progress, your success overall, and speed of your journey. Not saying you aren't counting and accounting for all your UD food, just was mentioning this... in case...
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And if you do want to give up/cut back on sugar, there are sugar free ice cream options. I see that you're in Central Jersey (I'm in S Jersey), so your shopping options should be similar to mine. I love the fruit sweetened sorbet and gelato from Ciao Bella (find at Whole Foods stores, or if you have Shop Rite nearby). The blood orange sorbet is yummy and only 60 calories per serving. The key lime gelato is totally decadent and NOT low calorie. Good luck with whichever way you go with it.
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I love seeing all the NJ BUDDDs..........

I'm kind of North Central and agree the nice weather feels like spring!

from me too. If you really feel like sugar is a problem for you, I would like about choosing healthier foods that you love. If you want Ice Cream and have the calories to spare, the Skinny Cow popsicles are great and have a portion size with a great calorie count. Or if you want candy, have some dark chocolate. I think saying "no" to cravings completely sets us up to have that negative tape running in our head which for me leads to poor choices and cycles from there.

I can keep my DD calories low only if I keep my protein high so that may be an idea to work on to help with that for you. I think this is all a learning curve, when you reach a roadblock, just turn around and try again. You'll get there!
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I'm a firm believer in one big change at a time--no need to stress yourself out in every aspect right now.

With that said, I am the crazy gal who has been under 15g of sugar a day (although yesterday I had 50g, LOL!!!!) and even *I* would not take a "no sugar" challenge. I truly enjoy that little bit of dark chocolate, or the low carb ice cream bar, or almond butter with maple too much. A lot of times I count out 8 of the Ghiradelli 60% chocolate chips for dessert. It's still very, very low sugar, but not no sugar. Giving up all semblance of treats is not something I can imagine right now.

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