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Old 01-22-2012, 06:54 AM   #1
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Sleep problems

Hi

Did my 'official' 3rd week weigh in this morning and I've lost nearly 5 kilos - very happy. Just wondering if anyone struggles with sleep on the down day? I'm an insomniac, so I don't need any encouragement, but sometimes I'm so hungry I can't sleep. Yesterday, for example, I was fine all day, had a small snack before bed, drifted off to sleep, but woke up at 2 am starving and that was it for the rest of the night.

Does anyone have any tips on how to get through the night?
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Old 01-22-2012, 07:31 AM   #2
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I drink a cuo of chamomile tea about an hour before bed
and that seems to help me. I also fast until about 6pm so
that I can eat all my dd calories at the same time.
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:19 AM   #3
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I take melatonin, but I took it before I started JUDDD, anyway. Sometimes that helps. I always save a good portion of my dinner (usually a shake with lots of ice in it) for just before bed, but not too close (that's an individual determination because some people have trouble with heartburn, or whatever).

Sometimes, I sail through the night with no problem; last night, I was excited about my breakfast, went to sleep thinking about it, and woke up several times during the night. I almost gave up and got up at 2:30, but decided to just lie there a little longer, and managed to fall back asleep. My 'normal' get-up time on weekends is between 5:00 and 5:30, so once I got there, I just went ahead and got up.

It CAN be a problem! Here's an idea: if you are on a DD, save some calories for if you absolutely have to have something in the middle of the night. (Just make sure you decide what it is ahead of time and it is ready to eat....the middle of the night is not a great time to go rummaging for something to eat when there are many temptations around.) Then, if you wake up but don't want to start your UD, eat the saved calories. Guilt never did us any good, so let go of that idea, and if something isn't working for you, try something different.

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Old 01-22-2012, 08:25 AM   #4
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As you get into this even further, you may find you are shifting the time(s) you eat on your DDs.

Most of us seem to gravitate to postponing our first meal of the day, until finally we end up just fasting until suppertime, and then we enjoy a delicious and filling meal and are comfortable all evening long, and sleep nicely all night long too.

I've found that an evening meal that includes all the macronutrients, protein and fat and carbohydrate, really keeps me feeling *balanced* and helps me sleep like a baby.
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:30 AM   #5
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I take 5mg of melatonin at night before going to bed. Keep it on my nightstand with water in case I awake in middle of night....then take another one. Seems to help.
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Old 01-22-2012, 11:01 AM   #6
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I am one of those that can sleep anytime anywhere. The only thing I have noticed is that I go to bed earlier on DD's since I feel tired by 9pm. So the dog and I turn in early and sleep till the alarm goes off at 5:15am.
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Old 01-22-2012, 11:16 AM   #7
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Thanks for all the helpful responses - what a great forum!

I might try fasting later on, but that's what led me to abandon the JUDDD last time I tried it. I went over to fasting after only a few weeks and then just gave up as I couldn't manage it.

gharkness - I will definitely try to save some food for during the night - great idea! Specially now that I'm past the first 2 weeks, I could plan to stick to 500 cals and then have, say, 100-150 cals on standby and only have it if I can't sleep. That sounds like a plan.

Sounds like melatonin would be a good thing to look into. Can't drink chamomile otherwise I'd be running to the loo all night!

I'm hoping that as I get used to things it'll get easier.
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Old 01-22-2012, 07:20 PM   #8
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Thanks for all the helpful responses - what a great forum!

I might try fasting later on, but that's what led me to abandon the JUDDD last time I tried it. I went over to fasting after only a few weeks and then just gave up as I couldn't manage it.

gharkness - I will definitely try to save some food for during the night - great idea! Specially now that I'm past the first 2 weeks, I could plan to stick to 500 cals and then have, say, 100-150 cals on standby and only have it if I can't sleep. That sounds like a plan.

Sounds like melatonin would be a good thing to look into. Can't drink chamomile otherwise I'd be running to the loo all night!

I'm hoping that as I get used to things it'll get easier.
Hi Bevonjuddd!

Many of us start to notice increased energy or have some trouble getting tired on DD because it naturally stimulates energy. Think of back in the day when our ancestors got hungry... their energy increased so they could hunt and gather. This enabled them to think clearer and move better in order to hunt and find food.

As far as being hungry at night on DD, save yourself a portion of calories before bed so you won't go to sleep empty. You don't have to fast completely on DD, but try spreading out your calories during the day (many of us start eating later in the day so as not to stimulate our appetite too early) and be sure to save some calories for later. Protein foods might help you keep more satisfied, things like fish, shrimp, egg white, chicken, etc. rounded out with stir-fried veggies or a big salad.

I just bought a sleep supplement at the health food store and will try it for the first time tonight, as I've been having trouble getting sleepy at an appropriate time many nights. I'll see how it does.

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Old 01-23-2012, 03:45 AM   #9
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Thanks sophiethecat

I'm going to play it by ear. At the moment, spreading out the calories is working better. Sometimes I can fast and sometimes it's just too painful. I suffer from Ulcerative Colitis though it's pretty much in remission through medication. I used to have terrible pain in the colon which is one of the reasons I think I put on the weight I found the nausea and pain of hunger hard to cope with, it was like having razorblades in there. Now it's much better but still a bit painful.
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Old 01-23-2012, 12:47 PM   #10
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Thanks sophiethecat

I'm going to play it by ear. At the moment, spreading out the calories is working better. Sometimes I can fast and sometimes it's just too painful. I suffer from Ulcerative Colitis though it's pretty much in remission through medication. I used to have terrible pain in the colon which is one of the reasons I think I put on the weight I found the nausea and pain of hunger hard to cope with, it was like having razorblades in there. Now it's much better but still a bit painful.
That is not nice Bev! Hope that JUDDD helps over time.

I doubt you can obtain Melatonin in the UK. I have some I got at the airport in Singapore. It might be possible to order online, it always amazes me what you can buy there.

Happily, I can sleep for England now that I am through the menopause.
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:56 PM   #11
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Goodness me, Kissa, you don't look anywhere near 64!
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