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Old 01-13-2012, 12:41 PM   #31
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Do you have a monday to friday job? I just read the book a few days ago and I think he mentioned in it that he had a client that did down days monday wednesday and fridays every week, with weekends as up days or mid days, I forget. But anyways the point is that they were only doing those 3 down days a week.
Yes, I remember reading this too. I just don't know if I can get back on the rotation after the weekend! That is how I fell off over the holidays... 2 UP in a row turned into 3, 4, ...

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Old 01-13-2012, 12:50 PM   #32
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Just popping in to say that I am one who once had to quit JUDDD because of UD binging. I am back now and successful because, for me, eliminating sugary treats (except during celebrations) truly decreased my binging. I also plan out my UD in advance. Good luck!
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Just popping in to say that I am one who once had to quit JUDDD because of UD binging. I am back now and successful because, for me, eliminating sugary treats (except during celebrations) truly decreased my binging. I also plan out my UD in advance. Good luck!
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Old 01-14-2012, 04:27 AM   #35
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As Ouizoid said, some of us have to identify and avoid trigger foods, trigger situations, trigger times of day. After that old JUDDD magic is firmly established (usually about two weeks of DD/UD rotation) we can go back and start experimenting. Eventually, some of us can gobble former trigger foods. Some of us can't.

One of the things I am most enjoying about this weight loss journey (efgt to JUDDD) is how much I am learning about myself! And how much control over myself I am gaining.
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This is me too!!! My name is Michelle and i have an eating disorder.
I have struggled with binging/purging/anorexia, all of them at one point or another for so many years i cant even count them. When i first started juddd i ended up doing the same thing as so many do. I was eating too many sweets and really binging on nuts!
It has taken me a good 2 weeks of really sticking to the plan and now im finally hitting my stride. But i had to identify i was doing this and you are doing that so thats a big step in the right direction. I agree with counting everything you eat, but be honest about those counts too.
I think this woe can really work well for those of us coming from eating disorders if we do it correctly and figure out trigger foods and identify these issues as soon as we can. Look at joedi and how well she has done. She is my hero. We have to realize that with juddd we dont have to restrict anything and we dont have to binge on anything and we dont have to purge to get rid of anything. We can have whatever we want! We just have to have a balance and find that balance.
I do the mon, wed, fri schedule and it works great for me and i never have a problem getting right back on track with a DD mon. Im usually looking forward to my DD! I do a MD on sat, which is the hardest day for some reason. This works really well for me with my work schedule. You would be surprised how easy it is to hit that DD on monday with no problems at all.
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As Ouizoid said, some of us have to identify and avoid trigger foods, trigger situations, trigger times of day. After that old JUDDD magic is firmly established (usually about two weeks of DD/UD rotation) we can go back and start experimenting. Eventually, some of us can gobble former trigger foods. Some of us can't.

One of the things I am most enjoying about this weight loss journey (efgt to JUDDD) is how much I am learning about myself! And how much control over myself I am gaining.
For me, I don't know if its the old "starvation mode" stuck in my brain that says "down days are BAD!" (which I know they are not, as long as they're followed by a good UD) or the fact that I went back to carbs after LCing for a bit, but I have one hell of a time with DDs After introducing carbs back into my diet (and carbs, i mean sugar as well as bread and such), i've been walking around feeling...well...high and NOT in a good way! So, in my quest for trying to find that "balance" - what I may end up doing is LCing for a couple of weeks at my usual calorie range (i had an issue with being starving all the time, still trying to figure out how that happened) and see if the hunger tapers off; if it does, I will try JUDDD again but keeping it LC (i don't like being high! Ok maybe i'll throw in something carby on DD [like 1/2 a wrap at lunch - I find that when I eat carbs after LCing, im so disgustingly full!]). If it doesn't, then sadly, I don't think I am capable of doing JUDDD I also have an issue with binges, so I have to watch that as well. Oh well, try, try and try again!
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I learned yesterday that my key to DD's was the amount of protein I was eating. I tried some soup for my 2pm feeding and it was mostly veggies and chicken broth. When I got home I was starving so I ate an egg white off of a HB egg, drank a cup of brith and that was it until this morning. The protein makes all of the difference for me it seems. So it will be protein for DD's from here on. Boring but easiest.
Did not trigger cravings, I was just plain hungry.
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Old 01-14-2012, 06:40 AM   #39
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I learned yesterday that my key to DD's was the amount of protein I was eating. I tried some soup for my 2pm feeding and it was mostly veggies and chicken broth. When I got home I was starving so I ate an egg white off of a HB egg, drank a cup of brith and that was it until this morning. The protein makes all of the difference for me it seems. So it will be protein for DD's from here on. Boring but easiest.
Did not trigger cravings, I was just plain hungry.
Yes to Protein!

Yesterday I had so much protein, and it made it feel like I wasn't on a DD. I start off with black coffee until I get good and hungry, sometimes 1:30 p.m. Then I had that "fried rice" without the rice (see the cabbage/chicken/laughing cow thread) and it has so much protein, I was stuffed for about 5 hours. Then had a ham and real cheese sandwich on lite bread, and was good all evening til I had a snack of grapefruit.
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This is me too!!! My name is Michelle and i have an eating disorder.
I have struggled with binging/purging/anorexia, all of them at one point or another for so many years i cant even count them. When i first started juddd i ended up doing the same thing as so many do. I was eating too many sweets and really binging on nuts!
It has taken me a good 2 weeks of really sticking to the plan and now im finally hitting my stride. But i had to identify i was doing this and you are doing that so thats a big step in the right direction. I agree with counting everything you eat, but be honest about those counts too.
I think this woe can really work well for those of us coming from eating disorders if we do it correctly and figure out trigger foods and identify these issues as soon as we can. Look at joedi and how well she has done. She is my hero. We have to realize that with juddd we dont have to restrict anything and we dont have to binge on anything and we dont have to purge to get rid of anything. We can have whatever we want! We just have to have a balance and find that balance.
I do the mon, wed, fri schedule and it works great for me and i never have a problem getting right back on track with a DD mon. Im usually looking forward to my DD! I do a MD on sat, which is the hardest day for some reason. This works really well for me with my work schedule. You would be surprised how easy it is to hit that DD on monday with no problems at all.
thanks Shelly...for being so honest about your problems...and for the sweet compliment to me!
I have had all the ED's you mention, from about 18 years old, and its only since march last year I have been free from bulimia (from the day I joined lcf)
I still get the urge to binge though...on UD's and FD's. Sometimes I do feel out of control foodwise....sometimes the amounts I eat arnt huge, but if I feel I can stop eating when full..or I eat just for the sake of it...for me that is binging.

Like you say, it is so much about finding what works for you, individually.
For me, I am slowly coming to accept the fact that I will always have "disordered eating", and its more how I can work with it, rather than cure it. (my attempts to "cure" myself....holding calories low - just led to binging..purging...binging...starving, and an attempt at "instinctive eating"...I instinctively wanted to eat non stop ..which led to more holding calories low...rinse and repeat..)
I think, personally that doing a DD/UD schedule...my DD's are strict under 600, the UD being moderate carb, keeps me feeling in control, but i am allowing myself one FD a week....a kind of "outlet" for any pent up binging urges -perhaps I wont have any, but I need the option, in a controlled way! Telling myself i wont have them doesnt work. So i am kind of using my old behaviour...strict low calorie/eating loads, but in a healthful way, which is keeping me at my goal too.

Also, I try to keep any higher carb food for the end of the day...they are my trigger, but by keeping them till later, they wont wreck a good UD!
Juddd, is slowly helping me know myself, and what will and wont work, sometimes I feel like my own psychologist!

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You are definitely not alone! My first month or so on JUDDD my UDs were pretty high, and all-too-often out of control. It was like a very repressed child who finally goes off to college and is allowed to make decisions about how to spend their time that they've never been allowed to make on their own before. Most of the initial decisions aren't all that good. But you learn.

Now, after three months, it's really beginning to normalize. The most healing thing for me, I think, has been the forced discipline of DDs and the elimination of "never again" thinking. It's not that I can't ever have Christmas cookies... it's that I can't have them today. Tomorrow I can have some. It's not that I can't ever have tortilla chips with salsa again.. it's that I'll have them tomorrow instead of today.

That has been so freeing for me. It makes DDs so much easier, and UDs so much more... well, "normal", I guess. It's eroding the sense of deprivation that I've had my entire adult life. Because my entire adult life I've either been on a diet, rebelling from a diet, or gearing up to begin another diet.

This is different. The whole mind-set is different from anything else I've ever done. It just amazes me the mental changes I'm seeing in my very-damaged relationship with food.
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You are definitely not alone! My first month or so on JUDDD my UDs were pretty high, and all-too-often out of control. It was like a very repressed child who finally goes off to college and is allowed to make decisions about how to spend their time that they've never been allowed to make on their own before. Most of the initial decisions aren't all that good. But you learn.

Now, after three months, it's really beginning to normalize. The most healing thing for me, I think, has been the forced discipline of DDs and the elimination of "never again" thinking. It's not that I can't ever have Christmas cookies... it's that I can't have them today. Tomorrow I can have some. It's not that I can't ever have tortilla chips with salsa again.. it's that I'll have them tomorrow instead of today.

That has been so freeing for me. It makes DDs so much easier, and UDs so much more... well, "normal", I guess. It's eroding the sense of deprivation that I've had my entire adult life. Because my entire adult life I've either been on a diet, rebelling from a diet, or gearing up to begin another diet.

This is different. The whole mind-set is different from anything else I've ever done. It just amazes me the mental changes I'm seeing in my very-damaged relationship with food.

and as my signature says: "JUDDD is helping me decriminalize certain foods. I can eat anything that pleases me, the world continues to turn, and I don't have to eat it all the time or never again as if these were the only two options in life"...Rachelocity (her quote !)
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..........That has been so freeing for me. It makes DDs so much easier, and UDs so much more... well, "normal", I guess. It's eroding the sense of deprivation that I've had my entire adult life. Because my entire adult life I've either been on a diet, rebelling from a diet, or gearing up to begin another diet.

This is different. The whole mind-set is different from anything else I've ever done. It just amazes me the mental changes I'm seeing in my very-damaged relationship with food.
This is, indeed, different. And curative. Normalizing. And fun.

Loved your post, synger! And love that you are experiencing a new relationship with food and living with it, enjoying weight loss without all the deprivation, and making wonderful progress.
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You can get popcorn flavors that you shake onto hot popcorn too, I have a variety but I like the dill one the best.
Popcorn is such a great idea and I hope down the road I can learn to limit my portions. I bought the 100 calorie packets which I thought would be great for me to know exactly what I was eating. It is a nice amount of popcorn. I heard Oprah talk about how she does that with a squeeze of lemon and truffle salt. I just happened to have meyer lemons in my backyard an truffle salt. It tasted so good to me that one packet was simply not enough. I had to make all the packets in the box. So I am going to lay off it for awhile until I am further along on JUDDD and then try it out again.
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Popcorn is such a great idea and I hope down the road I can learn to limit my portions. I bought the 100 calorie packets which I thought would be great for me to know exactly what I was eating. It is a nice amount of popcorn. I heard Oprah talk about how she does that with a squeeze of lemon and truffle salt. I just happened to have meyer lemons in my backyard an truffle salt. It tasted so good to me that one packet was simply not enough. I had to make all the packets in the box. So I am going to lay off it for awhile until I am further along on JUDDD and then try it out again.
That's a good idea. LOL A lot of your portion control issues will ease off, and you will get to the point where you absolutely realize that you don't have to have it all now, eat it all now, but until you're *there*... you're not.

It doesn't take too long before you realize that you can have popcorn for the rest of your life. So you can totally opt not to have any today. Even if it's sitting right there on the counter in your kitchen. It gets to the point where it's just not a big deal anymore.
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It's strange, but I don't have popcorn that often, but when I do, it's often budgeted into a DD because I can enjoy it so much more. Instead of throwing handfuls of it back into my mouth like I would any other day, on a DD I pick it up one piece at a time, eat it slowly, savoring it, making it last (or trying to)
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That's a good idea. LOL A lot of your portion control issues will ease off, and you will get to the point where you absolutely realize that you don't have to have it all now, eat it all now, but until you're *there*... you're not.

It doesn't take too long before you realize that you can have popcorn for the rest of your life. So you can totally opt not to have any today. Even if it's sitting right there on the counter in your kitchen. It gets to the point where it's just not a big deal anymore.
I have had a large bag of peanut m&m's (my kryptonite) in my bedroom for 2 weeks...unopened! For me...that shows that juddd is altering my mind...not just my body!

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I'm putting this out there - feel free to read or not as you wish I'm new to the forum, but not to dieting and overeating. It sounds like JUDDD actually helps people to curb their binging over time which is marvellous. If you are really struggling with this though, there are some long term strategies out there. One of them is a process I'm currently training in that involves releasing past memories and negative patterns. Basically put, our subconscious runs programmes created in the past which affect our current behaviour. The key is to find out what sets off the binging and let it go. For eating there are usually many avenues. For example you may have a family who only get together over dinner, you may have felt loved when your mum gave you a treat, you may have some bad feelings that go away temporarily when you eat that treat because it subconsciously reminds you of that loved feeling. Here is a link to give an example of how it works. It takes some commitment but it's worth it. The process is called FasterEFT. You can also try Hypnosis, NLP etc to make these changes.


Here is another link
There are over 500 videos on the FasterEFT YouTube channel, so you can try this out for free. If anyone wants to know how to apply this for weight loss/food addiction PM me and I'll give you some more info.

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Do you have a monday to friday job? I just read the book a few days ago and I think he mentioned in it that he had a client that did down days monday wednesday and fridays every week, with weekends as up days or mid days, I forget. But anyways the point is that they were only doing those 3 down days a week.
Julie, I do Monday, Wednesday, Friday Down days, Saturday and Sunday, UP and Medium days, works for me. I only diet 3 days per week, and am losing 2 pounds a week, Happy girl!
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