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Old 01-14-2012, 05:35 PM   #181
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Ahhhh, food. I think I'll make it through my first DD. And I have 100 calories to go if I need a bedtime snack.
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Just checking in with still another example of the wonders and magic of JUDDD.

I ate a FD on Thursday and had way too much salty food. Well, Friday morning weigh in was 136.6. I haven't seen that number since Christmas day but of course I was not concerned. I knew doing a good DD, which I did, and drinking more water/liquid to flash out the water weight would do the trick and of course, it did!

Happy to report today's weigh in after this good DD was 134.2! This I will take and I know by Monday I will 134 or probably lower.

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I was surprised... I still haven't stepped on a scale, but I was doing laundry today and decided to wash the jeans I was wearing, but I didn't want to put on my lounge pants. I reached to the back of the closet and found a pair of pants I hadn't been able to even squeeze into for over a year, and this time they came up and zipped even!!! Made me happy!! Tuesday will be the 2 week mark for JUDDD! Might even step onto the scale... or not! I'm one of those that doesn't really care what the scale says, but whether my clothes fit comfortably. I'm hoping to drop from an 18 to a 14... that would be wonderful!!
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I have forgotten to take it; there was a while I was skipping (often unintentionally) several doses a week because of DDs, and being afraid to take it with too little food. There is no immediate dire effect. But because the way (or one of the ways) metformin works is by "suppressing glucose production by the liver", it seems to me that taking it regularly would be most effective. Fasting can increase glucose production...so fasting/DDs while skipping metformin might compound the problem...
I think, though, that your liver would never make as much as you would normally eat in carbs even if you were doing a diet version of the SAD. I'm not sure about that -- I don't know that much about type II. Do type II's livers make more glucose than normal?

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I have mentioned this in other posts, but a few months ago when I tested my BG while fasting it would continue to rise; more recently, it drops to & stays at normal levels. This could indicate that (a) my liver is producing less glucose and/or (b) I'm becoming more insulin sensitive.
I'm voting for more insulin sensitive because I'm pretty sure that's what's happening with me now, since starting JUDDD. OTOH, normally, if I'm eating SAD food, in the morning I'll wake up with a good b/s, but if I don't eat anything, it'll be 300 an hour or so later. That's a normal thing for a lot of type I's and for normal people, too (though they don't have a blood sugar surge because they shoot out insulin). That may be about my liver NOT dumping glucose like it normally would, but I have no idea why that would be.

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It seems that a lot of Type 2s, at least in some stages of the disorder, make plenty of insulin, but are insulin-resistant. In this case, adding more insulin could increase weight gain.

What I want to find out is whether I am producing a normal amount of insulin and whether I am insulin-resistant! I have to see if my doctor will order different tests next time, instead of just fasting glucose.
You should see if you can get those tests. Knowledge is power!

I think the reason it's thought that type IIs should be using insulin is that their beta cells are working so hard making all that insulin and that eventually burns them out, so they can't make insulin at all anymore, and then it becomes a lot harder to control b/s. It might be (I don't know for sure) that your body will compensate for the injected insulin by producing less. But I don't know about that. It seems like that must be the case though, or it wouldn't make sense that injecting insulin would potentially save your beta cells from burning out, kwim?


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Ahhhh, food. I think I'll make it through my first DD. And I have 100 calories to go if I need a bedtime snack.
Yay! Congratulations!

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I was surprised... I still haven't stepped on a scale, but I was doing laundry today and decided to wash the jeans I was wearing, but I didn't want to put on my lounge pants. I reached to the back of the closet and found a pair of pants I hadn't been able to even squeeze into for over a year, and this time they came up and zipped even!!! Made me happy!! Tuesday will be the 2 week mark for JUDDD! Might even step onto the scale... or not! I'm one of those that doesn't really care what the scale says, but whether my clothes fit comfortably. I'm hoping to drop from an 18 to a 14... that would be wonderful!!
That's awesome! It's been a long time since I've fit into a smaller size (lost, gained, and then lost again, so I'm just back to where I was a few months ago) but I really look forward to it!
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Old 01-14-2012, 10:28 PM   #185
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Do type II's livers make more glucose than normal?
What I have read is that insulin resistance leads to an increase in hepatic glucose production.
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Oh, I just found this, which sums it up quite nicely (and it looks like the answer to your question is "yes" )
"In healthy people, the liver produces glucose during fasting to maintain normal levels of cell energy production. After people eat, the pancreas releases insulin, the hormone responsible for glucose absorption. Once insulin is released, the liver should turn down or turn off its glucose production, but in people with Type 2 diabetes, the liver fails to sense insulin and continues to make glucose. The condition, known as insulin resistance, is caused by a glitch in the communication between liver and pancreas."

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if I'm eating SAD food, in the morning I'll wake up with a good b/s, but if I don't eat anything, it'll be 300 an hour or so later. That's a normal thing for a lot of type I's and for normal people, too (though they don't have a blood sugar surge because they shoot out insulin). That may be about my liver NOT dumping glucose like it normally would, but I have no idea why that would be.
because you have enough glucose in your blood from the food, so that the liver isn't triggered to dump?

I've noticed the same thing...my BG is often lower in the am if I eat carbs the night before as opposed to when I don't. But that could be a sort of reactive hypoglycemia, too...my BG probably went pretty high earlier, so overall there's a bigger swing--say from 100 to 200 back down to 80. Whereas if I eat LC, I go to bed w/BG around 100 & wake up with it around 125-130. Not a great waking number (for me) but a smaller swing.

There are a lot of interesting points in your post and I will read it again after I get some sleep!

But the upshot is...I'm not going to skip my meds so I can do this (or any) diet, unless my doctor says it's okay. He's pretty open-minded & awesome. He might be interested in hearing about JUDDD, especially since it's helped me lose more weight than LC (which he recommends).
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Old 01-14-2012, 11:55 PM   #186
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That's pretty interesting! Thanks for the quote. I'm wondering if my liver is a type II liver or a normal liver.

It's a good sign, imo, that your doc is recommending LC. My endo thinks LC (although he'd say high protein, low fat ) is the healthiest way to eat, but he said it's "unsustainable" and then turned around and asked if I wanted to do a supervised liquid diet. Still, he gets a point for the LC part. I run things by my doc and I like to hear his opinion and then I decide whether or not I think he's full of sh*t and do what ever it is I thought sounded right in the first place, pretty much. And I live to tell... But I do think it's a good idea to run this stuff by your doc. You never know when they'll know something we don't.

I'm not meaning to be pushy, btw, just kinda brainstorming because I wish you were getting some more benefit from all of your hard work.
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Today another UD. I had a very successful DD yesterday but we had diner a bit late (730pm, usually before 7pm) and I didn't think enough during the day. Tried to catch up after diner.

I'm going to weigh myself before breakfast (which will be whenever my BF wakes up). I hope that I didn't gain (water weight carb after-effects of the 2 consecutive carb-rich days I had). If I'm the same or lower, this means that I broke my plateau of almost a month! Because for the past month I've been going back and forth between 231.5 and 233, with one day of 230.8, but it shot right back up after that (even though I had a VLC day). Will check back in an hour or so
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Weighed after the holiday - 3lbs up - not at all unhappy! Expect to see it gone in the next 4 or so days - after a couple of good clean days of eating - both UD & DD!!!
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I was surprised... I still haven't stepped on a scale, but I was doing laundry today and decided to wash the jeans I was wearing, but I didn't want to put on my lounge pants. I reached to the back of the closet and found a pair of pants I hadn't been able to even squeeze into for over a year, and this time they came up and zipped even!!! Made me happy!! Tuesday will be the 2 week mark for JUDDD! Might even step onto the scale... or not! I'm one of those that doesn't really care what the scale says, but whether my clothes fit comfortably. I'm hoping to drop from an 18 to a 14... that would be wonderful!!
What a great feeling!!!!!
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Good news laceylady!!! congrats!! I love it when that happens.
Noelle, Im sure the scale willl be down...be sure to let us know!!! but dont too freaked if its not either. You have reintroduced carbs after not having them for quite a while. If it is up just a tad its just water. And your body will adjust.

I have some things to run by you ladies. Im a little frustrated this morning. Yesterday was a MD, did ok, about 1200 calories. But up 2lbs this morning. It seems that on the weekends it doesnt what i do or how i eat i am always up in weight. I had a little over 100 carbs, which isnt bad at all. More sweet carbs than i normally but that many more. I shared the ice cream with my son, not alot, i ate a very small piece of cake with a little bit of ice cream at my dads bday party last night. But overall cals were pretty low. During the week on a UD i will eat about 1800 calories and have about the same carbs, maybe a little less but usually not from sugar. Maybe 1 cookie or something but thats it. Also, during the week when im work i sit all the time all day, I drink well over 100 oz of water per day, and im peeing all day long. On the weekends i dont get in near as much water because im on the go so much, i maybe get in 3 or 4 20oz bottles of water, thats a big difference from during the week. So, im wondering a couple of things, part of it is the sugar carbs, and part of it is that im not drinking as much water to flush out the sugar carbs. I know there are a lot of people who do well adding back in carbs in the form of breads, pastas, rice, potatoes things like that but dont do as well on the sweet stuff. I need to experiment a little more i guess but either my body just needs more time to adjust because i havent eaten carbs in soooo long or eating sugar carbs just isnt gonna work for me unless i am prepared to see that gain.
Today is my UD and im planning to just eat normal, what everyone else eats pretty much, but i will have salad, its a must. But im not gonna be eating a lot of sugar today but again i also wont be drinking the water i do during the week.
Its very frustrating and very confusing. I have seen the scale go down every single this week. Even after a UD and to see it go back up 2 lbs after a MD its annoying.
I know this was long, thank you guys for reading and responding.

Fun day planned. We are taking my dad to the gun range this morning for his bday to shoot. He hasnt been shooting in a very long time and me and my SO love to go shoot our guns so we thought he would like that. We surprised him and told him last night during the party and he is very excited!!!
Im not gonna let the number on the scale discourage me today or get me down, i was still lower at the end of this week than i have been in long time.
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Might even step onto the scale... or not! I'm one of those that doesn't really care what the scale says, but whether my clothes fit comfortably. I'm hoping to drop from an 18 to a 14... that would be wonderful!!
Ah, yes, this is me! From the beginning (I also have just finished the first two weeks) my goal has to get comfortably back into a pair of jeans that I used to wear....but can't now. I think ultimately my goal will be for them to be a little bit too big, but I'll take baby steps for now.

When I started, I couldn't even get them up over my butt...so I tried them on again yesterday (couldn't wait until today - my official "try on" day) and now I can not only get them up over my butt, but I can **almost** get the waist portion pulled together to where both sides touch. Not even close to buttoning (and zipping isn't even on the list yet), but hey, it's going in the right direction!

And for the first time, yesterday, there was actually a visible difference when I looked in the mirror. Gotta love JUDDD!
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Weighed after the holiday - 3lbs up - not at all unhappy! Expect to see it gone in the next 4 or so days - after a couple of good clean days of eating - both UD & DD!!!
Glad you folks had such a lovely vacation. And I expect the next very few days will see the weight gain gone again, and then more pounds shed after that as well. Welcome back! You'll be back on the way down very soon.
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I bounced up two pounds but I had oatmeal for breakfast. I am a human sponge and can bounce up 10 pounds overnight. For real. Learned that doing LC. I am a big water retainer. Sooooo I am happy with the week since I ended with an average weight of 178.2 which is .6 below where I started last Sunday. And I got to enjoy fried chicken and a banana and oatmeal and on and on. So worth it to actually loose a tad and get back to regular food.

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I bounced up two pounds but I had oatmeal for breakfast. I am a human sponge and can bounce up 10 pounds overnight. For real. Learned that doing LC. I am a big water retainer. Sooooo I am happy with the week since I ended with an average weight of 178.2 which is .6 below where I started last Sunday. And I got to enjoy fried chicken and a banana and oatmeal and on and on. So worth it to actually loose a tad and get back to regular food.
This is looking very good for you, isn't it! To be able to carb up over the week, regain water weight and replenish carb stores and fluids in tissues, AND to be down .6 pound in the first week is great.

Once your body is stable with it's water stores, you will be more likely to see the greater body fat losses that are going on. I expect you've lost far more than just .6 pound of body fat this week! Only the loss is camouflaged and hidden from the scale by the water weight regain. Looks to me like you've had a good week.
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143# today. First time I've weighed that much since about Dec. 30. I think it's water weight + hormones.

I have been a bottomless pit the last couple days and I think it's ovulation. I get like this in the middle of the month.

Normally I don't want breakfast, but yesterday I had a waffle and 2 sausage links and could have eaten at least one more waffle and more sausage links, but I didn't.

I ate all evening yesterday.

Today, I would love to eat breakfast, but I'm not going to do it. Just going to have my coffee and hold out til lunchtime or a little after and eat the rest of the cabbage/protein meal from my last DD.
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I had told myself that I wouldn't weigh after UDs because the water weight gains would freak me out, but curiosity has won out a couple of times recently. Although I've been easily putting on 3-5 pounds after a couple of UDs on the weekends (pretty free days), they've always come right back off. This week, however, I had an extra caloric UD on Tuesday and was thrilled to only see a gain of .6 (it happened to my DH, too!). I was back to my usual one pound under goal yesterday morning, and I had a little too many calories and ate BBQ last night, which always gets me a big gain. I actually ate french fries for the first time in years! Today I'm only up .6 again. I really think that my body is adjusting to the increase in carbs now and I'm not seeing those big bounces as much. I've been JUDDDing for maintenance since the week of Thanksgiving. That's a really big deal!
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I had told myself that I wouldn't weigh after UDs because the water weight gains would freak me out, but curiosity has won out a couple of times recently. Although I've been easily putting on 3-5 pounds after a couple of UDs on the weekends (pretty free days), they've always come right back off. This week, however, I had an extra caloric UD on Tuesday and was thrilled to only see a gain of .6 (it happened to my DH, too!). I was back to my usual one pound under goal yesterday morning, and I had a little too many calories and ate BBQ last night, which always gets me a big gain. I actually ate french fries for the first time in years! Today I'm only up .6 again. I really think that my body is adjusting to the increase in carbs now and I'm not seeing those big bounces as much. I've been JUDDDing for maintenance since the week of Thanksgiving. That's a really big deal!
I completely agree with you! It is a big deal. Because it's managing the rest of your life at a nice weight.

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I think my metabolism is in overdrive because I hit another new low this morning after 2 UDs in a row. I might be dehydrated though because I had about 5 mimosas with my big brunch yesterday! I'll drink lots of water today and I'm going to make sure I eat over 2000 on my UDs. I think I have to up my DD calories, too!

My average calories for the last 2 weeks was 1295.

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I think my metabolism is in overdrive because I hit another new low this morning after 2 UDs in a row. I might be dehydrated though because I had about 5 mimosas with my big brunch yesterday! I'll drink lots of water today and I'm going to make sure I eat over 2000 on my UDs. I think I have to up my DD calories, too!

My average calories for the last 2 weeks was 1295.
Sorry, Hon.


Just kidding!

When you have your UDs to about where you'd like to live, then you'll have to increase DD calories some too, until you find a nice comfortable, workable balance between those two days, and the calorie numbers for each seem quite nice to you and how you like to be able to live and socialize and maintain your weight.

I doubt there are very many at LCF who can possibly identify with this problem.
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What a busy thread since I have been away. So interesting to read all the progress, successes and puzzlements. Can't possibly comment on everything, so suffice it to say, I love my JUDDD budds.

After a wonderful week of eating (and overeating!) and some pretty shoddy DDs I am still 'at goal'. I was 126.4 this morning after a great, indulgent UD yesterday that included flying home and attending a 90 year old's birthday party and, finally, sharing a chilli chocolate schnapps that my DD had bought in Austria.

I had a good DD today and expect to be back to just under 126, which is my happy place, within a few days.

So good to be back here with my wonderful support group.
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I think my metabolism is in overdrive because I hit another new low this morning after 2 UDs in a row. I might be dehydrated though because I had about 5 mimosas with my big brunch yesterday! I'll drink lots of water today and I'm going to make sure I eat over 2000 on my UDs. I think I have to up my DD calories, too!

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Just kidding!

When you have your UDs to about where you'd like to live, then you'll have to increase DD calories some too, until you find a nice comfortable, workable balance between those two days, and the calorie numbers for each seem quite nice to you and how you like to be able to live and socialize and maintain your weight.

I doubt there are very many at LCF who can possibly identify with this problem.
Hahaha! I can't help but laugh with joy at the "problems" we have here at JUDDD! Boy we sure are a boring bunch in JUDDD maintenance, aren't we?

Julie, I had this happen too, where I lost more weight unexpectedly without trying or wanting to. After Christmas I started going lower and have only been as high as 143# since (my goal weight was 145#).

You might want to just go ahead and enjoy FDs in place of UDs all the time now, or part of the time! I get all trembly and excited thinking of my FDs, lol.

Or like Pat said, up your DD calories some. DD are where the real magic of weight loss seem to come from, so with higher calories, you will hopefully get a little less blast from the fairy dust!

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I had told myself that I wouldn't weigh after UDs because the water weight gains would freak me out, but curiosity has won out a couple of times recently. Although I've been easily putting on 3-5 pounds after a couple of UDs on the weekends (pretty free days), they've always come right back off. This week, however, I had an extra caloric UD on Tuesday and was thrilled to only see a gain of .6 (it happened to my DH, too!). I was back to my usual one pound under goal yesterday morning, and I had a little too many calories and ate BBQ last night, which always gets me a big gain. I actually ate french fries for the first time in years! Today I'm only up .6 again. I really think that my body is adjusting to the increase in carbs now and I'm not seeing those big bounces as much. I've been JUDDDing for maintenance since the week of Thanksgiving. That's a really big deal!
<----- those jumps for joy are from the bolded statement alone! Holy cow, thank the powers that be for FRENCH FRIES!!!

Soooo happy for all the good news from you about your maintenance!!

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What a busy thread since I have been away. So interesting to read all the progress, successes and puzzlements. Can't possibly comment on everything, so suffice it to say, I love my JUDDD budds.

After a wonderful week of eating (and overeating!) and some pretty shoddy DDs I am still 'at goal'. I was 126.4 this morning after a great, indulgent UD yesterday that included flying home and attending a 90 year old's birthday party and, finally, sharing a chilli chocolate schnapps that my DD had bought in Austria.

I had a good DD today and expect to be back to just under 126, which is my happy place, within a few days.

So good to be back here with my wonderful support group.
We love you too! So glad you and Mint are back and that you had a wonderful, indulgent, happy time on your vacation!!
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:02 PM   #203
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a little less blast from the fairy dust!
Who could have dreamt that we could want to chase the whoosh fairy away!
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:04 PM   #204
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I ate my BLT for lunch a bit ago. It will be interesting to see if it causes hunger later. It is the first bread product I have had since restarting LC in November. I have to admit it was very tasty though!
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:12 PM   #205
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Bonnie, I think I will be eating a BLT for my lunch tomorrow! Thanks for the thought.

And thanks Sophie for the kind welcome back.
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Old 01-15-2012, 01:04 PM   #206
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Hello all.

Unexpected scale reading this am. UP 2 pounds after a less than 500 cal dd yesterday. Weird. LOL But I'll just hang in there and see what happens. I know I've only been at this 2 1/2 days. I tend not to be a very patient sort though. Can't be carb water weight, because I was only at 46 on my first UP, and 10g yesterday (none of those were grain, only a small amount from sugar--honey in my muffin with dinner).

UD today, and I am so full! LOL. I did allow myself 6 french fries with my lunch. And am enjoying my coconut oil bark as a treat.
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Old 01-15-2012, 01:12 PM   #207
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I ate my BLT for lunch a bit ago. It will be interesting to see if it causes hunger later. It is the first bread product I have had since restarting LC in November. I have to admit it was very tasty though!
Oh gosh, BLT will be my next sandwich! I hope I can find a good looking tomato this time of year. You never know in southern cali, I might.

So I feel like I can see a slight upward trend in my numbers. I've been eating more carbs on my UDs and fasting on my DDs, so I've made changes. I'm not ready to say they're not working, though. I will give it a few days and hope that the dust settles. I also should be ovulating, so sophiethecat's post gave me hope that maybe I retain a little water at this point in my cycle. I have no idea because I had my tubes tied 3 years ago now and I have not paid one iota of attention to my cycle since then. lol

At any rate, I'm up to 183.0 (was as low as 181.0 a few days ago), and 183 is my weight that I *need* to be at or below (or I will lose my mind, lol). I am still there, and today is a DD, so I should be fine.
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Old 01-15-2012, 11:52 PM   #208
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Second week completed with a loss of 3lb - a total of 8lb. Still not finding down days easy, getting a lot of head aches but it's working and I'm enjoying my up days
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Old 01-16-2012, 12:35 AM   #209
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Haha this JUDDD thing is crazy!!

I lost .2 after my first UD (a new low after bouncing back and forth for 3,5 weeks on Atkins), stayed the same after my first DD and now after my second UD I am down .7 lbs. What the...? I ain't mad, though
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Old 01-16-2012, 12:44 AM   #210
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Weighed after the holiday - 3lbs up - not at all unhappy! Expect to see it gone in the next 4 or so days - after a couple of good clean days of eating - both UD & DD!!!
2.8lbs down after first DD!!!
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