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Old 01-14-2012, 08:31 AM   #151
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I was away from my computer for 24 hours, and I'm overwhelmed with all the success being recorded on this thread! I started out to say something to each one of you, but it quickly became obvious that there are just too many posts to do that. I can just say that I'm so HAPPY that so many are knocking it out of the park with JUDDD.

And I'm happy to say that I'm one of you JUDDD BUDDDs. My goal is maintenance and it's working well for me. I have weighed 144 each Saturday morning for the past three weeks, which is one pound under goal. I've had free weekends each week, gained a bit of water weight, but it's come right back down, every time! Easy peasy!
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Old 01-14-2012, 08:35 AM   #152
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..........From Friday 1/6 to Saturday 1/14 (8 days) I have lost: 5.8 lbs!
..........I'm insanely happy right right now! My LC losses were still coming, but more to the tune of 1/2 lb./week or so with a lot more bouncing than I'm seeing now, believe it or not.
Great job! Great results! Keep up the good work, which I know you will, and so delighted that you love JUDDD too! Well... what's not to love? Combining great weight loss with eating great food does sound like a fantasy, doesn't it. LOLOL


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..........Acronym help please--MD? And MUDDD?

Paleo Banana Bread:
3 eggs separated
4 tbsp honey
4 tbsp olive oil
2 mashed bananas
1tsp vanilla
1 tsp baking powder
1 tsp ground cinnamon
2 cups almond flour

Oven 350*
As to the acronyms.. MD is for Medium Day. This calorie number is the average of a DD and an UD. It is used to alter our rotation of days, in order to push that rotation one day forward and allows us to always make all upcoming social events coincide with UDs. Some folks want the same days of every week to be Up or Down days for them, so the MD can be used to cover that odd seventh day.

And thanks for posting the banana bread recipe. Even though I make use of all sorts of flours besides almond, I still use almond meal sometimes too, and love it.


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..........ds was just asking me to make some banana bread. i don't do any carby baking so didn't really know what to tell him. now just have to wait to for naners to over-ripen.
Glad you can make banana bread for your son. The timing was perfect. Maybe put the bananas in a brown paper bag and close it. They'll ripen FAST.


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140# for third day straight.

I had set 143# as the top of my maintenance range, but I haven't seen that weight for over two weeks now.
You're holding within your maintenance range nicely, aren't you. Way to go! Glad you're as happy with JUDDD as I am.
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Old 01-14-2012, 08:40 AM   #153
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Thank you for the MD explanation. I was wondering how to go about juggling days if needed. Now I know.

And glad the timing was good on the banana bread. If you are on pinterest, I'm mykidsteacher there too, and have other paleo bread recipes on my food board. I really do better digestively speaking grain-free.
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I was away from my computer for 24 hours, and I'm overwhelmed with all the success being recorded on this thread! I started out to say something to each one of you, but it quickly became obvious that there are just too many posts to do that. I can just say that I'm so HAPPY that so many are knocking it out of the park with JUDDD.

And I'm happy to say that I'm one of you JUDDD BUDDDs. My goal is maintenance and it's working well for me. I have weighed 144 each Saturday morning for the past three weeks, which is one pound under goal. I've had free weekends each week, gained a bit of water weight, but it's come right back down, every time! Easy peasy!
I'm delighted that JUDDD is working so easily for you for your maintenance and that you are also able to enjoy the freedom to indulge in all your food choices.

And it is astounding how this forum is just overwhelming with all the reports of weight loss success! The energy flow here is addictive, and the success of everyone is so exciting!
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Hey hey,

I've been flying around the past few days but just wanted to jump on here and let ya guys know that I did it!! Back on track after the holidays and yesterday morning after my second near-fasting day in a row, I weighed in at 197.6, completely skipping over 198 and 199 for my first under 200 weigh-in. Oh, it felt good!! Today, after a high-calorie day, I bounced back up over 200, but hoping to see that 19- again tomorrow!

In other news, I got a bodybugg earlier this week and wow, I am burning way more calories than I thought I was, and I do not think I was doing my body any good by holding my calories to 2100. That's how much I burn in a coma, and I'm physically active every day. On a day where all I did in terms of "real" exercise was a 40 minute walk to and from the post office and a tiny 2 mile run, I burned over 3000 calories! On a DD 32 calorie day no less! I've been aiming to hit almost exactly (or a tiny bit lower, to compensate for any error) my bodybugg reported burn on UDs. It means that I eat to replace exercise, but I think that keeps my metabolism happiest on UDs, and I love exercising anyway!! Anyway, my body is loving it and shedding the pounds again. Feeling great about it! Thanks everybody for hanging in there with me!
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The scale is drifting down and I'm 2 pounds lighter than at the beginning of the week, but still up 6 pounds compared to before the holidays.
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Thanks everyone, y'all are a bunch of great, kind-spirited bunch!!!

I'm really happy with my loss, but I'll definitely keep in mind that I won't always lose after an UD :P

My DD today is great!! I had some broth and quite some tea during the day. I am not hungry at all! Not even thinking about food! Should drink more though. Having a chicken salad with feta tonight. And I am looking forward to tomorrow!!! Went to the store and bought raisin bran and chocolate milk. My Up Day is going to be amazing!

Everyone is right (Pat in particular!), being able to look forward to all this goodness, without feeling like you have to have it NOW, is the best thing!!
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Whoa, I didn't subscribe to this thread when it started, and I missed out on a lot! Just got caught up with the reading! Yay for everybody!

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The bulky fat begins to burn and melt away because each new pound of muscle requires 50 more calories per day to maintain itself.
I have read that this calculation, while very motivating to hear from your personal trainer, is a bit off. It might not matter, as long as you aren't increasing calories based on how much muscle you think you've put on! But for other calculations:
How Many Calories does Muscle Really Burn? Not as Many as You Think...
http://www.ssymca.org/pdf/Health_Art..._Confusion.pdf

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I've been having a really hard time trying to figure out what to eat on up days, so yesterday I decided I was just going to try to have one *really* yummy thing each up day, even if it was high in calories or carbs or whatever, as long as I could fit it in under my calorie limit.
I do this too...otherwise I end up just eating "boring" foods like eggs & sandwiches, and then the following DD is so hard to get through because I feel like I haven't had anything "special" for days.

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slowly peeks my head in to SCREAM!!!! 182.2lbs......WOOOHOOOOOOOO
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY!!!
I hope you are feeling better & totally over your illness, too!!!

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I think at some point you finally, finally truly *get it*... that you can have anything in the world. Forever. Anything you want. Forever...
And once that finally really sinks in, you just relax and know that all the food in the world is yours whenever you want it from now on...
Nothing needs ever be denied you again. Not on JUDDD.
Sometimes I really feel this, and sometimes I don't...BECAUSE OF STUPID DIABETES!!!
If wonder if this is the real reason there's this rumor floating around that diabetics don't do well on JUDDD
Every day is restricted, not just DDs--
same for people with food allergies, too.
(I'm not feeling sorry for myself, just wondering why I still hate DDs so much when everybody else seems to get used to them & even look forward to them!!!)

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Now, i have really worked on the nuts thing. I think that was being a factor for me. Im eating them now but im measuring them out and not just blindly eating them out of the can. I have a few salty ones left and I just get out a few and eat them. There is no more eating out of the can. I think that was a big downfall for me. Those dang nuts!!!
OMG, salty nuts are such a problem!!!
I got in the habit of eating them with a little cheese and beef jerky, or some olives & celery sticks & stuff like that...they're more satisfying with some protein, and it's a little easier for me to stop eating them that way.

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Acronym help please--MD? And MUDDD?
MUDDD stands for "Mixed Up Day/Down Day"...using your calories on a 24-hours schedule instead of going by calendar days.
24hrUD/24hrDD experiment
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I think I may need to get a new scale!

This morning I woke up at 8, went to the bathroom, weighed in at 272.0...
started the fire and got back in bed to read (it was 43 degrees in my room),
fell asleep til 10, went to the bathroom again, and weighed in at 272.2!!!
I changed the battery recently...I don't know why it's acting like this.

Does my scale KNOW how much I want to see 271.anything and is tormenting me?!!! Jerk!!!

I actually did see 271.0 yesterday afternoon, after not eating all day & before dinner,
but I want to see that in the morning, please!

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I think I may need to get a new scale!

This morning I woke up at 8, went to the bathroom, weighed in at 272.0...
started the fire and got back in bed to read (it was 43 degrees in my room),
fell asleep til 10, went to the bathroom again, and weighed in at 272.2!!!
I changed the battery recently...I don't know why it's acting like this.

Does my scale KNOW how much I want to see 271.anything and is tormenting me?!!! Jerk!!!

I actually did see 271.0 yesterday afternoon, after not eating all day & before dinner,
but I want to see that in the morning, please!
Yes, it's the little gremlins that live inside the scales, they know, and they want us to suffer.
I'm convinced of this.
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Old 01-14-2012, 10:31 AM   #161
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OMG!!! so much activity on this board now! I just love everyone seeing how wonderful JUDDD is and coming over to this wonderful woe. I agree with you pat that this woe has to work. If the plan is followed the way its meant to be followed there is no way it cant work. We are really in a pretty big caloric deficit but we only feel every other day and even then we dont really even notice once the JUDDD magic kicks in. Im still scared of the carbs but adding them little by little. I am not doing the grilled cheese today because i ended up sharing a dip cone with my son from mcdonalds! wow was it good. I ate about 1/3 of it and it kinda jacked with my tummy just a little bit, i think because it was so sweet, that chocolate they put on top is really really sweet. So ill have my grilled cheese tomorrow. Im doing a MD today so the ice cream won out...lol I did have my wonderful oatmeal with real brown sugar, cinnamon and butter for breakfast. What a treat!!! dinner will be fried chicken and tator skins and ill have to eat a couple so im gonna have a light lunch to make room for a few skins and fried chicken. My main meal will be salad though.

Loving reading all of this great success!!!! Im wondering if this group isnt gonna end up as big as the main lobby eventually...lol If everyone really starts seeing and experiencing how wonderful this woe is and that it really does work and there are not restrictions it may take over the whole site!!! OMG!!!
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Good morning, everyone! It sounds like you all have great news!

I'm doing well, too. Yesterday was a DD and I was attempting to do a complete fast, but then I had a low blood sugar at like 11 pm. It was kinda weird because I should not have had any insulin peaking. This is the problem with insulin. It can be so unpredictable. But I had a 500 calorie meal and went about my business. That's great for me because low blood sugars often make me go overboard, since my body is basically screaming that it's starving.

This morning I'm experimenting with b'fast. I usually don't eat until late afternoon or even dinnertime because usually once I start eating, I just want more. But I decided to see what would happen if I had a high fat, high protein, highish calorie (700) b'fast. I just finished eating and I'm afraid I may just want more food. But we'll see. Maybe once it settles in I'll be okay.

Thank you, mykidsteacher, for the recipe! It looks really yummy! Need bananas!
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There were like 6 posts while I was posting!

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Whoa, I didn't subscribe to this thread when it started, and I missed out on a lot! Just got caught up with the reading! Yay for everybody!

If wonder if this is the real reason there's this rumor floating around that diabetics don't do well on JUDDD
I was wondering where you were, Jenny.

Is there really such a rumor??? It's so wrong, imo. I wonder though, if it could be hard for someone who takes one blood-sugar-lowering pill a day. They probably couldn't just skip it on DDs, right? But if you're properly medicated (to feed your body, not your insulin), I cannot see this being bad for a diabetic. I have actually been having a lot more lows in the last few days and I think it is probably because the DDs are making me more sensitive to insulin. But that's only good -- it will probably take me another day or two to recalibrate my insulin and then I'll be better off, doing less insulin and having more even blood sugars again. I would be having way more lows and highs if I was eating the ADA recommended diet.

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I think I may need to get a new scale!

This morning I woke up at 8, went to the bathroom, weighed in at 272.0...
started the fire and got back in bed to read (it was 43 degrees in my room),
fell asleep til 10, went to the bathroom again, and weighed in at 272.2!!!
I changed the battery recently...I don't know why it's acting like this.

Does my scale KNOW how much I want to see 271.anything and is tormenting me?!!! Jerk!!!

I actually did see 271.0 yesterday afternoon, after not eating all day & before dinner,
but I want to see that in the morning, please!
I'm sure it'll be happily sitting below 271 soon, no matter what time of day. Is that avatar a current picture of you? If so, you look great!
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Halfway through my first DD. I was REALLY hungry mid-morning, but I drank some water and held out till lunch. Made some bouillon (mine is 0 cal), and whisked in an egg white for an egg-drop type soup. YUMMY! Had a salad with leaf lettuce, broccoli and cauliflower, and 1 tbsp of balsamic dressing (yes, I measured). Total of 80 cals for lunch! I'm at 160 so far.

If I need it, I'll have the second half of my soup (I made 2 cups with 2 egg whites) mid afternoon. And then I can have a 300 cal dinner.

I can DO this!
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Im holding steady, keep bouncing up and down between 192 and 194. I have started working out again so I am hoping that is it.

It is interesting to see what Avery said about exercise and am wondering if it may do me good to eat my exercise calories and see how my body reacts.
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I keep saying this too. Many have good success right off the bat, and a whole lot more seem to have a lot of fluctuations and little real weight loss for awhile when they first start, but with a few adjustments, almost everyone seems to be able to make JUDDD work for them.

I guess part of the trick is to keep it up and ask for help if you're stuck and need some suggestions.
This is it EXACTLY. Stick w/it and ask for help when needed. You can ALWAYS find tons of help on this forum!!
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Is there really such a rumor??? It's so wrong, imo. I wonder though, if it could be hard for someone who takes one blood-sugar-lowering pill a day. They probably couldn't just skip it on DDs, right? But if you're properly medicated (to feed your body, not your insulin), I cannot see this being bad for a diabetic. I have actually been having a lot more lows in the last few days and I think it is probably because the DDs are making me more sensitive to insulin. But that's only good -- it will probably take me another day or two to recalibrate my insulin and then I'll be better off, doing less insulin and having more even blood sugars again. I would be having way more lows and highs if I was eating the ADA recommended diet.
Yep, there is such a rumor...
I was diagnosed less than a year ago & am still learning a lot about it.
Also I have Type 2, and don't take insulin, only Metformin...
One of my problems with DDs is that Metformin has unpleasant effects when I take it without eating enough.

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I'm sure it'll be happily sitting below 271 soon, no matter what time of day. Is that avatar a current picture of you? If so, you look great!
Thanks! But gosh, no, that is not a current picture. I think I weighed 170-180ish then, and thought I was so horrifically disgustingly fat; I weighed 135-140 for years before DS came along. But now--I would love to look like that again!!! I use it to inspire myself...I couldn't bear to look at a current picture of myself several times a day!
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I think I may need to get a new scale!

This morning I woke up at 8, went to the bathroom, weighed in at 272.0...
started the fire and got back in bed to read (it was 43 degrees in my room),
fell asleep til 10, went to the bathroom again, and weighed in at 272.2!!!
I changed the battery recently...I don't know why it's acting like this.

Does my scale KNOW how much I want to see 271.anything and is tormenting me?!!! Jerk!!!

I actually did see 271.0 yesterday afternoon, after not eating all day & before dinner,
but I want to see that in the morning, please!
I am the only person I know who can weigh, go to the bathroom, and weigh again and be about 2 lbs. heavier!!! It has happened to me several times, so I only weigh as soon as I rise in the morning.
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Originally Posted by SoHappy..........
I think at some point you finally, finally truly *get it*... that you can have anything in the world. Forever. Anything you want. Forever...
And once that finally really sinks in, you just relax and know that all the food in the world is yours whenever you want it from now on...
Nothing needs ever be denied you again. Not on JUDDD
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Sometimes I really feel this, and sometimes I don't...BECAUSE OF STUPID DIABETES!!!
If wonder if this is the real reason there's this rumor floating around that diabetics don't do well on JUDDD
Every day is restricted, not just DDs--
same for people with food allergies, too.
(I'm not feeling sorry for myself,..........

just wondering why I still hate DDs so much when everybody else seems to get used to them & even look forward to them!!!)

I do understand that some of us, well.. all of us, actually.. can't eat from every single thing that's available, from the standpoint that it makes us headachy or upsets our stomach or smells vile or make our blood sugar unstable or is too salty and we have a rise of blood pressure from it, or hives, or it gives us diarrhea, etc. etc. LOL Otherwise, I'd just have three meals that each consisted of a huge plate of chocolate fudge! But the headache would overwhelm me. Unhappily, certainly, all of us have to use sense in managing our health at the same time we get to incorporate so much into our menus. Luckily, most of the diabetics I know are able to eat at a somewhat higher carb level than the 20-gram norm for low carb induction, so end up with a fabulous range of foods that is available to them. Hope that's true for you also!

But the choices are ours, and it's all out there, available. It's ours if we want it. No forbidden lists. Whatever you choose for your meals is OK on this plan. It's up to you to use some common sense in your choices but JUDDD gives you complete freedom to choose what works for you.

I was going to ask you if you are getting the great appetite regulation/suppression on MUDDD. Or are you doing JUDDD? Maybe I missed that. Hopefully if you are doing JUDDD, after you've been doing it awhile, that appetite suppression will kick in for you too, but it's a marvel and sure makes eating for weight loss as easy as pie! That's one of the *little* benefits from the JUDDD fasting cycle that turns out to be a BIG benefit in the long run.

Hope you are doing well. Don't ever cut your hair!
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I am the only person I know who can weigh, go to the bathroom, and weigh again and be about 2 lbs. heavier!!! It has happened to me several times, so I only weigh as soon as I rise in the morning.
I used to have this problem, but it was the scale, not me... Cuz that is simply not possible! I now have a very good scale and always weigh myself on the same spot and it's right every time!
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I used to have this problem, but it was the scale, not me... Cuz that is simply not possible! I now have a very good scale and always weigh myself on the same spot and it's right every time!
I've tried all that--changed scales, changed batteries, moved the scale, etc. I always gain right after using the bathroom! So weird. I've been like this for years; we even had a "doctor's office" scale w/weights for years and it happened. But, the numbers in the morning always seem reasonable/right, so I don't worry too much. I just think it's the strangest thing ever.
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Old 01-14-2012, 12:40 PM   #172
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Thanks! But gosh, no, that is not a current picture. I think I weighed 170-180ish then, and thought I was so horrifically disgustingly fat; I weighed 135-140 for years before DS came along. But now--I would love to look like that again!!! I use it to inspire myself...I couldn't bear to look at a current picture of myself several times a day!
It is so different looking back at the weights I've been than it was to be there. Someone sent me a pic of myself at 165 that was taken when my first was about 8 months old (nursing did wonders for me and that was a pretty low weight for that time period -- bounced up quick, though, I think as soon as he ate his first damned cracker ). Of course I was over 200 when I saw the picture and I could not believe how good I had looked at that weight. But then, I remember at my law school graduation I was 150 and I was so uncomfortable with my weight and then when I saw the pictures afterward I thought I was going to die of embarrassment. Sigh... Oddly I'm prone to see something good in the mirror, but pictures can really mess with my head. I think it's a good idea to use an avatar pic more as you see yourself or how you'd like to be.

So, update on my breakfast (you were all dying to know, right?): It's been a couple of hours since I ate and I'm not feeling desperate for snacky stuff or hungry or anything. Maybe a good stick to your ribs b'fast can work for me.
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Halfway through my first DD. I was REALLY hungry mid-morning, but I drank some water and held out till lunch. Made some bouillon (mine is 0 cal), and whisked in an egg white for an egg-drop type soup. YUMMY! Had a salad with leaf lettuce, broccoli and cauliflower, and 1 tbsp of balsamic dressing (yes, I measured). Total of 80 cals for lunch! I'm at 160 so far.

If I need it, I'll have the second half of my soup (I made 2 cups with 2 egg whites) mid afternoon. And then I can have a 300 cal dinner.

I can DO this!
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...it's all out there, available. It's ours if we want it. No forbidden lists. Whatever you choose for your meals is OK on this plan. It's up to you to use some common sense in your choices...
I'm not talking about throwing common sense to the wind or eating three plates of fudge...I mean getting myself through a DD & a craving for French fries with the "I can have it tomorrow" mantra, I mean being able to accept a cupcake at a birthday party & save it for my Up Day...strategies that most JUDDDers can use..ideally, I should NEVER eat those things. Initially, JUDDD felt very freeing; but having recently decided to cut back on carbs again, the combination of JUDDD & LC is less fun.

Pat, your post is 100% true for most of y'all...even for me at the beginning...just not lately. And I really don't enjoy the LC lifestyle, especially having a vegetarian son and with our love of Indian, Ethiopian, Mexican, Chinese, Italian, etc cuisines that revolve around rice & noodles & fabulous breads! Also, I've been joking for YEARS that it wouldn't be worth living in NJ if it weren't for the bagels & pizza!

I'm still a big fan, though, and talk about it to everyone, especially if they have asthma or any other health issues!

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I was going to ask you if you are getting the great appetite regulation/suppression on MUDDD. Or are you doing JUDDD?
I have been IFing for about a week, and that was going well. But then I did a DD on Thursday, and paid for it yesterday...my medication does NOT get along with DDs...

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I'm not talking about throwing common sense to the wind or eating three plates of fudge...I mean getting myself through a DD & a craving for French fries with the "I can have it tomorrow" mantra, I mean being able to accept a cupcake at a birthday party & save it for my Up Day...strategies that most JUDDDers can use..ideally, I should NEVER eat those things. Initially, JUDDD felt very freeing; but having recently decided to cut back on carbs again, the combination of JUDDD & LC is less fun.

Pat, your post is 100% true for most of y'all...just not for me. And I really don't enjoy the LC lifestyle, especially having a vegetarian son and with our love of Indian, Ethiopian, Mexican, Chinese, Italian, etc cuisines that revolve around rice & noodles & fabulous breads! Also, I've been joking for YEARS that it wouldn't be worth living in NJ if it weren't for the bagels & pizza!

I'm still a big fan, though, and talk about it to everyone, especially if they have asthma or any other health issues!



I have been IFing for about a week, and that was going well. But then I did a DD on Thursday, and paid for it yesterday...my medication does NOT get along with DDs...
I'm so d-mned sorry. My hope for you is more than just weight loss. It's that as you lose weight, your metabolic resistance lessens and your insulin sensitivity picks up well. Hoping for you. Especially that you will eventually be able to have at least some of your favorite cuisines, at least occasionally, at least in reasonable quantities.

Will be keeping my fingers crossed that an IF plan will work well for you and be a pleasant fit too! Good luck with it.

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I'm looking for one without MSG or yeast extract in it... does yours have either of these and if not what brand is it? TIA
I'm sure it does. It's just Wyler's that I had in my cabinet. I'll look for a better one when I can make it to a hfs.
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I'm not talking about throwing common sense to the wind or eating three plates of fudge...I mean getting myself through a DD & a craving for French fries with the "I can have it tomorrow" mantra, I mean being able to accept a cupcake at a birthday party & save it for my Up Day...strategies that most JUDDDers can use..ideally, I should NEVER eat those things. Initially, JUDDD felt very freeing; but having recently decided to cut back on carbs again, the combination of JUDDD & LC is less fun.
I could not be around cake with the idea that I could have it later. That would drive me stark raving mad! I can do things that surprise me, like the other night when I made orange chicken and really yummy looking rosemary parmesan rolls with butter for my kids to eat and didn't feel very tempted. At those times, I have this weird sort of detachment. I think it has something to do with accepting and even embracing my hungry state. I associate that state now with good things. When I used to eat LOTS of carby treats, I had a similar positive association with being OVER-full. And it has taken me many months to embrace hungry as the new OVER-full (and the few times I have been OVER-full, I have felt like it was heavenly, so it's sitting around waiting to bite me in the ass, iykwim). But omg, I could never have cake around that was meant for me, eventually, and not eat it. Sounds like PURE torture. I'm either really detached and feel nothing about it or it's in my belly.

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I have been IFing for about a week, and that was going well. But then I did a DD on Thursday, and paid for it yesterday...my medication does NOT get along with DDs...
I wonder if it could be possible to take your metformin every other day. Or maybe half a dose or something on DDs. Have you ever forgotten to take it for a day? Do you know what would happen? I know that metformin can be helpful for weightloss, so maybe this wouldn't even be helpful. I don't know. I hate to bring this up because I think most people think it's some sort of end-stage horror story, but you might be a little freer if you were using insulin. You might be able to eat all of those lovely foods you mentioned. I know that seems way out there, but a lot of people think that most type IIs would be better off if they were using insulin. I don't know a lot about it, but it might be worth thinking about.
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I'm so d-mned sorry. My hope for you is more than just weight loss. It's that as you lose weight, your metabolic resistance lessens and your insulin sensitivity picks up well. Hoping for you. Especially that you will eventually be able to have at least some of your favorite cuisines, at least occasionally, at least in reasonable quantities.

Will be keeping my fingers crossed that an IF plan will work well for you and be a pleasant fit too! Good luck with it.
Thank you, Pat!!!
That would be SO awesome...it is my hope, too!

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I wonder if it could be possible to take your metformin every other day. Or maybe half a dose or something on DDs. Have you ever forgotten to take it for a day? Do you know what would happen? I know that metformin can be helpful for weight loss, so maybe this wouldn't even be helpful. .
I have forgotten to take it; there was a while I was skipping (often unintentionally) several doses a week because of DDs, and being afraid to take it with too little food. There is no immediate dire effect. But because the way (or one of the ways) metformin works is by "suppressing glucose production by the liver", it seems to me that taking it regularly would be most effective. Fasting can increase glucose production...so fasting/DDs while skipping metformin might compound the problem...

I have mentioned this in other posts, but a few months ago when I tested my BG while fasting it would continue to rise; more recently, it drops to & stays at normal levels. This could indicate that (a) my liver is producing less glucose and/or (b) I'm becoming more insulin sensitive.

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I hate to bring this up because I think most people think it's some sort of end-stage horror story, but you might be a little freer if you were using insulin. You might be able to eat all of those lovely foods you mentioned. I know that seems way out there, but a lot of people think that most type IIs would be better off if they were using insulin.
It seems that a lot of Type 2s, at least in some stages of the disorder, make plenty of insulin, but are insulin-resistant. In this case, adding more insulin could increase weight gain.

What I want to find out is whether I am producing a normal amount of insulin and whether I am insulin-resistant! I have to see if my doctor will order different tests next time, instead of just fasting glucose.
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I do this too...otherwise I end up just eating "boring" foods like eggs & sandwiches, and then the following DD is so hard to get through because I feel like I haven't had anything "special" for days.
Well, crap. My UD is nearly over, and now you made me want an egg sandwich! Thanks a LOT!

Guess I'll have to schedule it for Monday!
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Well, crap. My UD is nearly over, and now you made me want an egg sandwich! Thanks a LOT!

Guess I'll have to schedule it for Monday!
Ha! This is funny, because one of my favorite sandwiches is so plain and basic. I love fried egg, just so the yolk is cooked through but still tender, two slices of plain unhealthy white bread spread with plain old yellow mustard, and some plain old crunchy iceberg lettuce on it. Very un-gourmet.
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