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Old 01-06-2012, 12:09 PM   #1
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Hello juddders. I have a question that ythose of you guys who do not restrict carbs may be able to address. I hear a lot of how the body does not need carbs to survive and how over the weightloss low carb provides, it improves our overall health and body functions. For those of you folks on JUDDD who do NOT follow low carb and consume breads, refined sugars, etc- how do you feel versus low carbing (if you have low carbed in the past) after any initial adjustment period? Has anyone been JUDDDING for the long term yet and have lab results come back better, worse, same? I guess im curious about how to resolve the mentality that carbs are bad for our weight, health and body if you have the freedom to (an do) consume them on a regular basis. I am really curious as I have tinkered with the idea of trying this woe. Any clarification would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 01-06-2012, 01:13 PM   #2
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Personally, as I have stated before (perhaps ad nauseum), I was experiencing some very upsetting results from having depleted my body of its carb fuel. It's not that I don't believe that low carb doesn't work for those who need it (may be less people than we think). Sometimes we don't realize how bad things were until we look back after correcting the problem.
I added carbs right back in, some in the form of refined carbs, most not. I never had a weight gain by doing that. I have experienced the normal "JUDDD fluctuations", and even that seems to have settled out a bit. I never had any reactions from any food I have since returned to eating. My mood has improved 100% (I had become depressed from lack of carbohydrate), and my thinking is now clear and sharp as it was before (again, carb deprived brain=cloudy thought process).

I would be flamed if I went into the Main Lobby and posted this. However, these are my experiences, and you may interpret them as you want. I would never, ever encourage anyone to do low carb. But that is just me.

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LOL, I thought i was going to get flamed for asking! thanks so much for sharing your experience with me. I can certainly relate to LCBF (low carb brain fog)!
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Hi, Jenn! Glad you stopped by, and i hope you will join us here. This is a great group of folks, and all happily losing weight and eating wonderfully. Lots of joy and excitement on the JUDDD site, so even if you're not quite sure right at this moment, I hope you will feel free to do a lot of reading here. There's no better way to learn about an eating plan than to just read the words of its followers.

As to including carbohydrates in my diet, I do. And I will never, never, never go back to not eating carbs. I feel so much better eating the diet I enjoy now than I have in years, more energy, more vitality, a far greater sense of well being, and more joy in life! Frankly, I found eating low carb to finally just become DEPRESSING.

But you must be sure not to be under the impression that when we eat at higher carb levels, or when we decide to include some bread or a cookie or a potato in our meal plan, that we are pigging out on CARBS at a high rate, meal after meal, and that we are totally and completely overdoing on carbs all of a sudden now that we are doing JUDDD. Many who follow JUDDD still eat at low carb levels, and most eat at what might best be termed a mid-range carb level. I may be the one who eats at the highest carb level.. I don't know.. and even then, it's not nearly the high carb level of the normal American diet. LOL
Remember, even Dr. Atkins included whole wheat bread or a small potato in his menu plans eventually.

Probably (maybe) because I'm 68 years old, I feel more comfortable eating the wide variety of foods that we included in our diets back when I was a child, so at my mother's table we ate meat and eggs and all dairy, we ate all vegetables including all the starchy ones, and we ate the fruits. We had buttered toast with our scrambled eggs and when breakfast was cold cereal, we had whole milk and sugar on our corn flakes. Lunch included bread and butter with our soup, maybe an apple and another glass of milk. Supper was meat and potatoes and vegetables and usually salad. And maybe a dessert if mama had the time that day to bake something. And none of it was processed store-bought foods filled with chemicals. It was just food. The same food everyone else ate. That kept everyone slim and trim. Look at the old pictures of folks back before WW II and into the 1950s. There is hardly anyone who is even very plump, let alone FAT. So those are the foods I eat now.

Somehow, it has never seemed correct to me that we have three macro-nutrients of fat, protein, and carbohydrate, and we are to only eat from two of those groupings. It has been beyond my ability to believe that Mother Nature covered the great earth with growing lush plant life, and we were not to eat any of it.

It has never seemed comfortable for me to know we don't have the big fangs of true meat eaters, and that we don't have the sharp cutting molars of the true meat eaters, but that we DO have the flat grinding molars of the other plant eaters, and yet we were being asked to accept that we weren't to eat hardly any of the plants.

Well, of course, we all get to eat whatever we desire. So I eat it all. I love and adore all the fruits and veggies. I don't eat fruit every single day, but a week without fruit would make me very unhappy. In fact, just typing this makes me want to go in and pour a glass of orange juice, which we hardly ever have on hand, but which I do have in the refrig at the moment. LOL

And I LOVE bread! I don't buy much of that commercial pre-sliced bread in the plastic bags, but I do get some fabulous, amazing loaves of artisan breads, and I can bake some pretty amazing and delicious breads from scratch right here at home, but I cheat and use my bread machine to do the kneading for me. I rarely work bread into a DD, but I eat bread almost all Up Days.

A Thanksgiving without mashed potatoes and gravy, without sweet potatoes too, without hot rolls and stuffing for the bird, without pumpkin pies and pecan pies... well, what kind of a Thanksgiving feast would that be? A Christmas without fancy cookies and lovely candies? I went through that. No more. I welcome the Holiday feasts that don't come around all that many times in a year.

I love baklava. Have a friend who is Eastern Orthodox who makes this beautifully. I'm learning how. Rich with nuts and sweet with honey!

Once I started doing JUDDD and cycling between high and low days, it all came together and weight melted away and I got to welcome a world full of delightful dining into my life. JUDDD taught me how to deal with food, delight in food, and manage weight control, all in one fine plan.

I ramble..... feel free to ask all the questions you can think of. Everyone here is happy to help.
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Old 01-06-2012, 01:31 PM   #5
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"Somehow, it has never seemed correct to me that we have three macro-nutrients of fat, protein, and carbohydrate, and we are to only eat from two of those groupings. It has been beyond my ability to believe that Mother Nature covered the great earth with growing lush plant life, and we were not to eat any of it."

....that really resonates with me! thank you guys- i wholeheartedly appreciate you guys taking the time to provide such thoughtful responses and without any of the forceful dogma that i occasionally see throughout the board- or any boards, for that matter!

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Hello juddders. I have a question that ythose of you guys who do not restrict carbs may be able to address. I hear a lot of how the body does not need carbs to survive and how over the weightloss low carb provides, it improves our overall health and body functions. For those of you folks on JUDDD who do NOT follow low carb and consume breads, refined sugars, etc- how do you feel versus low carbing (if you have low carbed in the past) after any initial adjustment period? Has anyone been JUDDDING for the long term yet and have lab results come back better, worse, same? I guess im curious about how to resolve the mentality that carbs are bad for our weight, health and body if you have the freedom to (an do) consume them on a regular basis. I am really curious as I have tinkered with the idea of trying this woe. Any clarification would be greatly appreciated.

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Hi Jenn!

I low carbed from July to mid-October. I felt my weight loss was very sluggish and I felt bloated at least half the time on LC. I did see some positive things from it, but the diet started to get wearisome for me.

Anyway, I had heard about JUDDD through Beeb's post (yayyy Beeb!) and researched it - the benefits of the calorie cycling/restriction, and how that has shown positive results in people's health whether they were on LC or not. I hesitantly at first added some carbs back with JUDDD, but soon I just went "hog wild" and on my UDs would eat the foods I'd been denying myself for months on LC.

After 4 - 6 weeks of this, I started to "settle down" you might say, and realized my body seemed to be nudging me toward a middle ground. I was really wanting some of those high fat, protein foods I'd neglected, and less of the processed foods we lovingly call "Frankenfoods" I also didn't want to muck around too much with insulin problems since that is part of my medical history... though I'd had only good results on JUDDD even with the higher carb. But I felt like my skin was dryer without the quality fats and proteins too, and around Christmas I started eating more of the good fats like butter, evoo, vco, etc, more meats and other proteins.

I still have carbs, plenty of them. It's still far less than what the RDA is for carbs in the American diet. Even on full carb-fest early JUDDD, I was STILL eating less than the RDA!

Now that I can eat anything, and I do mean anything my little heart desires (especially thanks to FD-free days, and the different styles of eating I do while in maintenance). Those foods have lost their power over me. You know how it seems to be human nature to want what we can't have. But once we know we can have it - it's still going to be there anytime we want it, then we kinda of go "aahhh" and relax, or even shrug our shoulders at it.

So yes, I could eat a plate of cookies, but I'd rather have one or two and only now and then as part of a full day of foods - and my body seems to have located its balance there.

I have not had a doctor checkup for more than a year, but I go in about two weeks, and I'm going to get all the bloodwork done, and I'll report back.

I am getting long-winded, but just wanted to try to help address your concerns. If you have anymore questions at all, post away! Stay and read and visit here at JUDDD all you like!
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Here's another post from a while back on a similar topic, so I thought I'd include the link.

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I've only been doing JUDDD for less than a week. I went off carbs right away and already I'm noticing I'm in a lot better moods, more relaxed, just generally happier.
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Thanks for posting that link sophie, that was great reading!!! It helps me so much to see what everyone is eating and enjoying on this woe. I hope i will get there eventually and get over being so afraid of carbs. I have added a few and not gained a ton of weight so i think i will eventually and slowly. I do notice that my mood is better with mroe carbs too, just good carbs like veggies. When i was doing vlc i was horrible. I was in a bad mood all the time and i would cramp, no matter how many vitamins i took or how much water i drank. I am one that needs the extra carbs, now i just hope i can add more from whole grain once in a while. I would love to eat a sandwich! I used to love grilled cheese sandwiches and havent had one in so many years i cant even tell you.
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For me, it's the type of carb. Fruits and veggies my body loves. Refined flour and sugar does not agree with me at all, so I try to stay away from it as much as I can.
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Hello juddders. I have a question that ythose of you guys who do not restrict carbs may be able to address. I hear a lot of how the body does not need carbs to survive and how over the weightloss low carb provides, it improves our overall health and body functions. For those of you folks on JUDDD who do NOT follow low carb and consume breads, refined sugars, etc- how do you feel versus low carbing (if you have low carbed in the past) after any initial adjustment period? Has anyone been JUDDDING for the long term yet and have lab results come back better, worse, same? I guess im curious about how to resolve the mentality that carbs are bad for our weight, health and body if you have the freedom to (an do) consume them on a regular basis. I am really curious as I have tinkered with the idea of trying this woe. Any clarification would be greatly appreciated.

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I have enjoyed quite a few more carby foods and meals on JUDDD than I had in the previous two years. I'm banning them again, except for maybe once or twice a month. In the last month or so, I have broken out in pimples, my dark circles under my eyes have returned, and I've been in a pretty low place mentally under the influence of the crappy carbs. I really have come to think of sugar and grain carbs as poison. But so is alcohol, and I still imbibe, so the once in a while eating of them for the shear pleasure of it, is still in my plan. But it can't be regular. If I have a calorie cap I have to live with, darn it I want to nourish my body and brain the best I can with those calories, and the calories from sugar and grains are empty at best, and detrimental to my health, at worst. I've just come to the place where it doesn't make any sense for me to "spend" my limited calorie allotment on poisonous food that doesn't nourish me and is probably damaging me. Except, every once in a while, again, just because it tastes good and keeps me honest on a daily basis.
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Thanks for posting that link sophie, that was great reading!!! It helps me so much to see what everyone is eating and enjoying on this woe. I hope i will get there eventually and get over being so afraid of carbs. I have added a few and not gained a ton of weight so i think i will eventually and slowly. I do notice that my mood is better with mroe carbs too, just good carbs like veggies. When i was doing vlc i was horrible. I was in a bad mood all the time and i would cramp, no matter how many vitamins i took or how much water i drank. I am one that needs the extra carbs, now i just hope i can add more from whole grain once in a while. I would love to eat a sandwich! I used to love grilled cheese sandwiches and havent had one in so many years i cant even tell you.
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Grilled cheese sandwiches and cream of tomato soup. Yes! We have that for lunch occasionally during the winter months, and it's so delicious. Sort of an old fashioned kind of lunch... comfort food, I guess.
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I have enjoyed quite a few more carby foods and meals on JUDDD than I had in the previous two years. I'm banning them again, except for maybe once or twice a month. In the last month or so, I have broken out in pimples, my dark circles under my eyes have returned, and I've been in a pretty low place mentally under the influence of the crappy carbs. I really have come to think of sugar and grain carbs as poison. But so is alcohol, and I still imbibe, so the once in a while eating of them for the shear pleasure of it, is still in my plan. But it can't be regular. If I have a calorie cap I have to live with, darn it I want to nourish my body and brain the best I can with those calories, and the calories from sugar and grains are empty at best, and detrimental to my health, at worst. I've just come to the place where it doesn't make any sense for me to "spend" my limited calorie allotment on poisonous food that doesn't nourish me and is probably damaging me. Except, every once in a while, again, just because it tastes good and keeps me honest on a daily basis.
Boy, if you don't do well on carbs, or maybe it's more the *grain* carbs, I sure don't blame you for wanting to limit them in your diet!

I know for myself, if there was a food that I was sensitive to, like peanuts or shellfish or wheat or eggs, etc.. I'd certainly be keeping it out of my diet as much as I could.

Thankfully we are free to exclude all the foods we don't like or don't do well on, so can design and adapt our menus to those food choices that fulfill us and make us feel great. I remember a diet years ago that had you eating different things on different days, and I was always thinking: But what if you don't like or want that food? LOL

Sounds like you are zeroing in on the balance of all possible foods that is the best choice for you, your physical health, and your mental happiness. Good for you.
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Omg, this is one of my favorite comfort meals, and I haven't had it in a long time! Will be putting these goodies on my shopping list.
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For me, it's the type of carb. Fruits and veggies my body loves. Refined flour and sugar does not agree with me at all, so I try to stay away from it as much as I can.
YUP ^^^^ me all the way, too! I do not eat refined sugar, white flour, or processed products, as a rule. Yes, I will have the occasional cookie, chip, or candy but this is not something I do everyday or even most days. I have my favorite store bought cookies, hard candy, kit kat mini bar, and dessert when eating out, but I have found my body does NOT like these things and I limit them to a few times a week, most weeks. Holidays/special occasions you may see more of these things in my food journal and I do like a snack everyday, but because of the wonderful thing I learned from LC and the healthy benefits I got from eating that way I like to keep it as "clean" as I can even though I CAN eat anything I want now! And I will say when I do go overboard my body lets me know about it!

Hope you like what you are reading here and on our forum and looking forward to having you join our JUDDD family soon!
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Carbs are not essential. Meaning the human body can survive without them (especially if that body noshes on organ meats). However, there are vitamins in carby foods that certainly do no harm, that might be considered supplements. Perhaps because of that, perhaps because of difference in internal tuning, some bodies do better on some level of carbs.

On lc I did a lot of experimenting. Tried vlc for a month and paleo for a month - not for me. I felt fine but my weight loss stalled. I was one who lost best on 30 - 40 carbs/day.

Now, on JUDDD I am, of course, experimenting again.

Serious DDs do increase insulin sensitivity and reduce or prevent blood sugar spikes. The are many diabetic JUDDDers who have also experimented and found they can eat some carbs without endangering their health. I am re-introducing carbs one at a time so I can tell the difference and plan accordingly. There are carbs that make me feel sick and/or bloated and there are carbs my body takes in stride.

I am still eating mostly lc when compared to most of the population. But, I gotta tell you, by keeping DDs low I find I can eat many different foods, feel great, and lose weight at a reasonable pace.
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I think people need to make the distinction that carb just means a form of sugar/starch and is not the same as grain or roots. One could easily get as many carbs and never eat grains. Lot's of non grains are high in carbs still. Also, You can get carbs from eating seafood and organ meat. YOu could never eat a vegetable, root or grain and still consume some "carbs".

It makes it easier to understand a persons reaction to a food when they say " when I eat potatoes" or "when I eat wheat" than to say generically " when I eat carbs" because it is rarely a whole food that is solely carbs. it does tend to vary per person and the specificities might be related more to the food than to the fact that it contains carbs.

To be sure, carbs, as the individual macronutrient, are not essential. But that doesn't mean that Low carb restricts carbs in all food forms from the diet. Chewing on leaves roots and berries will net you some carbs, so to try to live a "carb free" life actually takes a lot more work than eating off the land. and that's not even considering grains.The only people who easily eat an almost zero carb diet naturally would be eskimo types and that's because vegetation is scarce most of the year. But they still get some carbs from organ meats, so ....

To the OP, I feel your confusion at the concept of JUDDD and Low Carb combining. It's hard to accept the idea that a person could benefit from both, and benefit from one at the exclusion of the other.

The nice thing about JUDDD it seems is that it doesn't require you to eat anything, it just requires you to calorie count. that means you can arrange the food plan any way you want. Low fat, Low Carb, Low Protein,High Fat, high Carb, Vegetarian, Meat Lover, Fruit Lover, Veggie Lover ( sounds Like a Pizza Hut Menu ) If you have any food sensitivities you don't have to eat that food, it's really so simple it's too much freedom.

Thanks for asking the question, and for the specification of refined sugar and starches. I find the responses very enlightening.
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I was very fortunate in finding and switching to CTFLC before coming to JUDDD. It taught me sooo much about the value of different food groups and helped me to overcome the fear of carbs. It also was an easy way to reintroduce carbs back into my diet in a healthful way - no junk. When we moved to France 6 months ago, I was able to maintain my weight without following any diet because I was already in the habit of eating high quality carbs. I would highly recommend reading her book. It has a lot of great information.
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I was very fortunate in finding and switching to CTFLC before coming to JUDDD. It taught me sooo much about the value of different food groups and helped me to overcome the fear of carbs. It also was an easy way to reintroduce carbs back into my diet in a healthful way - no junk. When we moved to France 6 months ago, I was able to maintain my weight without following any diet because I was already in the habit of eating high quality carbs. I would highly recommend reading her book. It has a lot of great information.
I am in absolute agreement with you about how true this is. We are lucky enough to have a small French cafe within blocks of our home. The couple who run it are from France, and he studied there to become a pastry chef, then worked there in some fabulous bakery for several years. Both are slim, as are their children. She is proud of the fine breads and pastries and foods they offer. (He's there at 3:00 am every morning getting started on the baking. Two day process to make the croissants, etc.) As she points out.. real food requires real ingredients.

We go up for pastries and fine coffee for breakfast on a regular basis. Amazing!
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I was very fortunate in finding and switching to CTFLC before coming to JUDDD. It taught me sooo much about the value of different food groups and helped me to overcome the fear of carbs. It also was an easy way to reintroduce carbs back into my diet in a healthful way - no junk. When we moved to France 6 months ago, I was able to maintain my weight without following any diet because I was already in the habit of eating high quality carbs. I would highly recommend reading her book. It has a lot of great information.
And the name of this book is? It sounds so interesting I would love to read it!!
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I have enjoyed quite a few more carby foods and meals on JUDDD than I had in the previous two years. I'm banning them again, except for maybe once or twice a month. In the last month or so, I have broken out in pimples, my dark circles under my eyes have returned, and I've been in a pretty low place mentally under the influence of the crappy carbs. I really have come to think of sugar and grain carbs as poison. But so is alcohol, and I still imbibe, so the once in a while eating of them for the shear pleasure of it, is still in my plan. But it can't be regular. If I have a calorie cap I have to live with, darn it I want to nourish my body and brain the best I can with those calories, and the calories from sugar and grains are empty at best, and detrimental to my health, at worst. I've just come to the place where it doesn't make any sense for me to "spend" my limited calorie allotment on poisonous food that doesn't nourish me and is probably damaging me. Except, every once in a while, again, just because it tastes good and keeps me honest on a daily basis.
I feel ya, Speck. I've only been doing JUDDD for two weeks now (day 14 today!) and I was planning on staying vlc-ish. But omg that is hard when you're calorie counting. And it's hard on DD's because you would only get very little volume to eat if you had no veggies. So, my DD's now include quite a few veggies but I try to also make sure I get some good protein/fat (I can usual fit in 2 oz of feta and 3 oz ham, at least). Then on Up Days I've been allowing myself a late night yummy carb meal. Tonight it was a glorious peanut butter and banana sandwich that I enjoyed immensely. But I know that is much more about my carb addiction than what is good for me. I am hoping that after a little flirtation with these foods, I will take Speck's position and get rid of most or all of them again. I really, really think Gary Taubes is right on about all that he says and ultimately I'd like to get back to a much lower carb woe. Right now I'm loving JUDDD, so I do hope that I manage to make them work together. Maybe when I'm much farther along and can eat 600 or 700 calories, I'll be able to make my DD's lower carb... Right now, though, I do want to wallow in the carbs a bit even though I feel like it's bad for me. I want some damned chocolate cake!
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And the name of this book is? It sounds so interesting I would love to read it!!
CTFLC: Crack the Fat-Loss Code by Wendy Chant

PS: found this thread, there are recent posts on the last pages:
WENDY CHANT CRACK THE FAT LOSS CODE FOR MARCH 2011

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CTFLC: Crack the Fat-Loss Code by Wendy Chant

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Thank you so much for posting this!!
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you guys have given me some great insight into this woe. I have another question- i have read a little bit about exercising and juddd- do any of you guys workout consistently on your down days and if so, have you adjusted your workout to accommodate the low caloric intake for the day- making for a lighter workout? my apologies if this has been covered elsewhere. the little ive come across regarding was in favor of not working out on juddd- is this for dd only or both up and dd? thanks for all your help, personal experiences and insight!

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you guys have given me some great insight into this woe. I have another question- i have read a little bit about exercising and juddd- do any of you guys workout consistently on your down days and if so, have you adjusted your workout to accommodate the low caloric intake for the day- making for a lighter workout? my apologies if this has been covered elsewhere. the little ive come across regarding was in favor of not working out on juddd- is this for dd only or both up and dd? thanks for all your help, personal experiences and insight!

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I've just recently started exercising and I choose not to worry whether it's an UD or DD. I skated on Saturday (a DD) and burned 420 calories while eating less than 300. I felt fine (though I'm a bit stiff today )!

I know of several others here who work out daily or almost daily and both UDs and DDs.

I think it's a personal decision and you should probably just see how you feel. I think you'll find that you're going to have just as much energy on DDs as you do on UDs. At least that's been my personal observation.

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you guys have given me some great insight into this woe. I have another question- i have read a little bit about exercising and juddd- do any of you guys workout consistently on your down days and if so, have you adjusted your workout to accommodate the low caloric intake for the day- making for a lighter workout? my apologies if this has been covered elsewhere. the little ive come across regarding was in favor of not working out on juddd- is this for dd only or both up and dd? thanks for all your help, personal experiences and insight!

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Hi, I can't give recommendation on what to do about calories because I don't exercise very often on either day! But exercising on DDs should be fine. I've been reading quite a bit about IF (intermittent fasting) and there seem to be a lot of athletes & bodybuilders using this WOE. They're doing something called "fasted workouts" instead of drinking protein shakes before workouts and having recovery drinks/meals afterwards, and having great results.

Google "fasted workouts" for articles & info.
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Lots of us work out and do well on this plan, both. Some only work out on their Up Days, but many of us just work out whenever, regardless of the day. I never worry about what day it is. Some report a slight decline in their energy level on DDs, but there is also an advantage of working in the fasted state, as your body really has to draw from your fat stores to fuel its workout. Then feed yourself some good protein to rebuild muscle, and I'll bet you'll see good results.
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I work out when I can. I have a goal of cardio five days a week and weight lifting 3 days. because i work part time retail and so does hubby and we have five kids, i get my workouts whenever i can. i don't pay much attention if it is a DD or an UD. I can work out the same on either day.
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Hi, I can't give recommendation on what to do about calories because I don't exercise very often on either day! But exercising on DDs should be fine. I've been reading quite a bit about IF (intermittent fasting) and there seem to be a lot of athletes & bodybuilders using this WOE. They're doing something called "fasted workouts" instead of drinking protein shakes before workouts and having recovery drinks/meals afterwards, and having great results.

Google "fasted workouts" for articles & info.
Thanks for that tip. I realize, thinking about your post, that I sometimes feel really good doing exercise ( dancing and playing) on an empty fasted stomach. I never made any connections, but that's really interesting. Sometimes my errand days are really "happy" because I've fasted since waking, but I'm running about town, back and forth in parking lots, ( I like to skip ) through the stores, carrying things, and I feel great and cheerful instead of grumpy like hungry people are. And when I do feel hungry, it is pointed instead of subtle, it's like "okay, we let you go on all day now FEED US" Meaning I can pass by donuts, chicken places, candy lanes and the like and not have any craving for it.
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