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Wishin 11-18-2011 10:18 AM

Up Day Calories
 
Hi, I am new here and just starting to look at JUDDD. I have a question, what are the calories on your up days? Are they the total calories or are they reduced in some way. My down days are 616 and the total is 3082 at 20%. (as you can see by these numbers I have a ton to lose) I have just ordered the book but was wondering. Thanks

kel7298 11-18-2011 10:28 AM

Hiya Wishin! It appears to me your DD calories are 616 and your UD calories are 3082. I personally feel that the UD calories are a bit generous. If you could get by on less, I would certainly do so. Perhaps 2700??

Wishin 11-18-2011 10:38 AM

Wow, I was wondering if that was truly the up day calories. I agree with that being to high, I was just wondering. Thanks.

Beeb 11-18-2011 10:47 AM

:welcome: I would go here and take an average of these 3 sites and start there.

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/ju...lculators.html

metqa 11-18-2011 11:21 AM

So.... .Exactly what SHOULD the Up Day caloric limit be based upon? I know we don't need to eat up to that limit if we don't have the hunger , but really what should it be?

Should the upper limit be the maintenance calories considering activity levels?
Should it be BMR?
Should it be 100% of maintenance calories or 90% or 80%?
if you don't have to eat to the maximum calories for an Up Day, then why intentionally limit your UP Day calories to an artificial ceiling that you'd have to "break" if you needed more calories on a random upday than on others? and then go and feel guilty about it, cause we know how we are.

Yesterday, I had my up day and for some reason, when I got up to 1200, I felt I had to stop. then I went back and checked and remembered my caloric limit was actually 1600 by JUDD calcs and 1700 by my regular calorie calcs. So why was i feeling guilty about being hungry and wanting more?? It was MY Up Day! So because I was still hungry, I was able to eat another serving of food without feeling guilty because I really had permission to eat to my body weights caloric max.

Try taking an average of multiple calorie calculators and then use that number and don't bother trying to make it lower, You have permission to eat to your caloric max on your updays, It's part of the plan.

If you can keep to 20% of that limit on down days ( good luck to all) , then you'd be doing it just right.
I'd say try it as is, and then, Like Beeb has done, you can tweak it as you see the results. And don't expect that what happens the first few days is indicative of the whole plan. give it at least 2 weeks, cause you might ( very likely will) fluctuate up and down from up day to down day and that might not have anything to do directly with the number of calories but just the weight and quality of the food you choose. If you eat more liquids and carbs on your up day you will likely show more gains, than if you eat calorically dense meats and fats. and don't feel bad if you have gains after a down day, it's not always about what happened yesterday, but it may be an affect from the day before.

I ate 1800 calories yesterday, of thick heavy soupy curry with meat and veggies and yet I came Down, after that up day.

Just find a calorie limit that seems honest to you and go with that. You won't have to second guess yourself that way.

Beeb 11-18-2011 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by metqa (Post 15186924)
So.... .Exactly what SHOULD the Up Day caloric limit be based upon? I know we don't need to eat up to that limit if we don't have the hunger , but really what should it be?

Should the upper limit be the maintenance calories considering activity levels?
Should it be BMR?
Should it be 100% of maintenance calories or 90% or 80%?
if you don't have to eat to the maximum calories for an Up Day, then why intentionally limit your UP Day calories to an artificial ceiling that you'd have to "break" if you needed more calories on a random upday than on others? and then go and feel guilty about it, cause we know how we are.

Yesterday, I had my up day and for some reason, when I got up to 1200, I felt I had to stop. then I went back and checked and remembered my caloric limit was actually 1600 by JUDD calcs and 1700 by my regular calorie calcs. So why was i feeling guilty about being hungry and wanting more?? It was MY Up Day! So because I was still hungry, I was able to eat another serving of food without feeling guilty because I really had permission to eat to my body weights caloric max.

Try taking an average of multiple calorie calculators and then use that number and don't bother trying to make it lower, You have permission to eat to your caloric max on your updays, It's part of the plan.

If you can keep to 20% of that limit on down days ( good luck to all) , then you'd be doing it just right.
I'd say try it as is, and then, Like Beeb has done, you can tweak it as you see the results. And don't expect that what happens the first few days is indicative of the whole plan. give it at least 2 weeks, cause you might ( very likely will) fluctuate up and down from up day to down day and that might not have anything to do directly with the number of calories but just the weight and quality of the food you choose. If you eat more liquids and carbs on your up day you will likely show more gains, than if you eat calorically dense meats and fats. and don't feel bad if you have gains after a down day, it's not always about what happened yesterday, but it may be an affect from the day before.

I ate 1800 calories yesterday, of thick heavy soupy curry with meat and veggies and yet I came Down, after that up day.

Just find a calorie limit that seems honest to you and go with that. You won't have to second guess yourself that way.

:goodpost: And wiser words will not be found!! :up::clap:

Lori-s 11-18-2011 04:11 PM

Hi there and :welcome:

For myself I used my goal weight on the calorie calculator. But, I am much closer to goal than you are. If I had more weight still to lose I would probably break it down into mini goals and use my mini goal as the weight input and then adjust it down as I went along getting closer to each goal. For example if I wanted to lose say 100lbs, I might break it down into 25lb increments and set each goal that way so that I would input my weight as 25lbs lighter than it is into the calculator and go from there. As I approached each new goal I would input my new goal weight and adjust my calories down some more. Remember that the UD calories are basically what you would have to eat each day to maintain your current weight. The DD calories help bring your calories down further so that you are not eating enough to maintain that weight if you average the calories out. As you get slimmer you need less calories to maintain your weight and therefore even less calories to lose weight.

I wish you lots of luck and am sure you will be happy when you see the results you get with JUDDD. Remember that calories can always be adjusted if the numbers you are using don't seem to be working. If you seem to be having problems losing with the calories you decide on, get on the board and let everyone know so we can help.


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