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Old 10-21-2011, 01:38 PM   #61
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'While it may be hard to gain fat through a high-fat diet, it is likely possible to keep on a certain level of body-fat. Low-carbohydrate diets are known to "stall", where the last 20 or so pounds just won't come off, regardless of carbohydrate restriction. I suspect our friend ASP plays a crucial role here. The low insulin levels on a low-carb diet will allow the fat cells to free fatty acids, but if you are consuming enough fat, at some point this effect will be balanced by that of ASP, and voila, no more fat loss.'

OMG it is so making sense to me.
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This is really interesting. I am glad that you have had such success with your blood glucose levels on JUDDD...that is really encouraging for me! I have not had problems (that I know of) yet, despite consuming a fair number of carbs on the up days. Do you mind sharing some info? How many carbs do you typically eat on an up day?

Wow...gaining weight on VLC. I have heard of it happening (read many a thread where it did) but have not tried to go that low in carbs myself (except for a fat fast). I was pretty sure I could not maintain a carb level under 20 in the long term. Strange thing, tho...I felt weaker/shakier on the fat fast than I have on my JUDDD down days, and that was at 1000 calories (the fat fast). Just an observation!!
That was interesting to hear!
I felt like that all of the time on low carb..under 20 a day. I managed 5 months of it...waiting for the energy, waiting for my heart to stop racing....and waiting to lose weight! Everyone else raved about the benefits of cutting carbs...and I kept wondering WHY it wouldnt work for me!

I may get a bit hungry on DD's...but I feel well, AND I lose weight!

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That was interesting to hear!
I felt like that all of the time on low carb..under 20 a day. I managed 5 months of it...waiting for the energy, waiting for my heart to stop racing....and waiting to lose weight! Everyone else raved about the benefits of cutting carbs...and I kept wondering WHY it wouldnt work for me!

I may get a bit hungry on DD's...but I feel well, AND I lose weight!

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Wow, how terrible to feel like that all the time I'm glad you found JUDDD then!

I do find it strange that it is easier to cope with a DD than a FF day. Maybe it does have something to do with the high fat content.

I never had the 'super energy' but I did feel much more energetic when I had lost a lot of weight (those are not necessarily the same thing). I did get a lot of benefits from low carb. It gave me a lot of success. But it didn't take me all the way. I really *believe* (I still do) that low carb can give a lot of people a lot of success (which is why it was hard for me to make the decision to try something new...) because nothing had ever worked for me before.

I'm just glad I stepped outside of my comfort zone. And on an odd side note, my husband says that 'whatever that diet is doing for you, you need to keep doing it' because apparently I have been happier and in a better mood in the last 3 days than I have been in ages... Interesting (but great) side effect!
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Wow, how terrible to feel like that all the time I'm glad you found JUDDD then!

I do find it strange that it is easier to cope with a DD than a FF day. Maybe it does have something to do with the high fat content.

I never had the 'super energy' but I did feel much more energetic when I had lost a lot of weight (those are not necessarily the same thing). I did get a lot of benefits from low carb. It gave me a lot of success. But it didn't take me all the way. I really *believe* (I still do) that low carb can give a lot of people a lot of success (which is why it was hard for me to make the decision to try something new...) because nothing had ever worked for me before.

I'm just glad I stepped outside of my comfort zone. And on an odd side note, my husband says that 'whatever that diet is doing for you, you need to keep doing it' because apparently I have been happier and in a better mood in the last 3 days than I have been in ages... Interesting (but great) side effect!
I was just going to comment about your DH's observation that you are in a better mood and happier these last days. It is interesting that he made this observation.

There was always one thing that I noticed over the years that I've been here, reading almost every single one of those days, and it is that as some people who remain very low carb for really extended periods of time, seem to really get cranky and apparently feel a little irritable most all the time, always seem to have a confrontational edge, sometimes snarky, snotty, *****y, and challanging, combative, defensive, and just plainly in a negative frame of mind most of the time. Angry! Quick to anger. Just always irritable and on edge. Not starting out that way, but becoming that way. Developing symptoms of depression or worsening depression.

Not saying that excluding almost all carbohydrate from their diets for extended periods of time is the absolute cause of this... only that I've noticed it absolutely happening to quite a few people. And it doesn't mean the cause is their diet. Perhaps it is completely from outside pressures in their lives and they are just exhibiting their constant irritability and quick anger in the forums.

But I am able to assess my own frame of mind and responses to everything in my own life, and I have a much sunnier disposition, feel more delight, experience my joy, and live the hours of my days in a much happier frame of mind when carbs are included in my diet at a much higher level than is normal eating the average low carb diet. And I understand that may just be me and not apply to anybody else in the world. (But, as I say from observing these boards for years... I don't think I'm wrong.)
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SS - I eat anywhere between 20-60 g of carbs per day. Sometimes netted and other times not! LOL. Today I figured what I would be eating on my UD and it comes out to 53g of carbs with 18g of fiber. That will be split between 2 meals. Not ideal but had a HUGE breakky and am stuffed. Tonight I have a dinner with friends that can't be avoided and know what I'm going to order there...
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Okay that does it, Posts #61-65 have convinced me to try JUDD again. The comments about depression, deprivation and low energy having me saying BINGO! Also Stardusts post regarding eating fat. If I have to eat low(er) fat I may as well enjoy more carbs with it right?! Pooticus your comment about dinner with friends reminds me that I can have more choices with less stress while dining out with JUDD.
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Okay that does it, Posts #61-65 have convinced me to try JUDD again. The comments about depression, deprivation and low energy having me saying BINGO! Also Stardusts post regarding eating fat. If I have to eat low(er) fat I may as well enjoy more carbs with it right?! Pooticus your comment about dinner with friends reminds me that I can have more choices with less stress while dining out with JUDD.
Seems to be a trend with this thread. lol
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Okay that does it, Posts #61-65 have convinced me to try JUDD again. The comments about depression, deprivation and low energy having me saying BINGO! Also Stardusts post regarding eating fat. If I have to eat low(er) fat I may as well enjoy more carbs with it right?! Pooticus your comment about dinner with friends reminds me that I can have more choices with less stress while dining out with JUDD.
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I was just going to comment about your DH's observation that you are in a better mood and happier these last days. It is interesting that he made this observation.

There was always one thing that I noticed over the years that I've been here, reading almost every single one of those days, and it is that as some people who remain very low carb for really extended periods of time, seem to really get cranky and apparently feel a little irritable most all the time, always seem to have a confrontational edge, sometimes snarky, snotty, *****y, and challanging, combative, defensive, and just plainly in a negative frame of mind most of the time. Angry! Quick to anger. Just always irritable and on edge. Not starting out that way, but becoming that way. Developing symptoms of depression or worsening depression.

Not saying that excluding almost all carbohydrate from their diets for extended periods of time is the absolute cause of this... only that I've noticed it absolutely happening to quite a few people. And it doesn't mean the cause is their diet. Perhaps it is completely from outside pressures in their lives and they are just exhibiting their constant irritability and quick anger in the forums.

But I am able to assess my own frame of mind and responses to everything in my own life, and I have a much sunnier disposition, feel more delight, experience my joy, and live the hours of my days in a much happier frame of mind when carbs are included in my diet at a much higher level than is normal eating the average low carb diet. And I understand that may just be me and not apply to anybody else in the world. (But, as I say from observing these boards for years... I don't think I'm wrong.)
OMG this has been me! There has been low carb days I couldnt stand myself lol. When you should be feeling good you feel down. I dont EVER want to go back to feeling like that again.
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SS - I eat anywhere between 20-60 g of carbs per day. Sometimes netted and other times not! LOL. Today I figured what I would be eating on my UD and it comes out to 53g of carbs with 18g of fiber. That will be split between 2 meals. Not ideal but had a HUGE breakky and am stuffed. Tonight I have a dinner with friends that can't be avoided and know what I'm going to order there...
Have a fun, fun time out this evening. And... um.......... One of these days when you're feeling especially chipper and feisty, maybe you will post some of your food porn pictures. Drive us wild with drooling delight!


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Okay that does it, Posts #61-65 have convinced me to try JUDD again. The comments about depression, deprivation and low energy having me saying BINGO! Also Stardusts post regarding eating fat. If I have to eat low(er) fat I may as well enjoy more carbs with it right?! Pooticus your comment about dinner with friends reminds me that I can have more choices with less stress while dining out with JUDD.
Oh, do I even have to tell you how happy I am that you are coming back to join us?!!! This just made my day.


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Seems to be a trend with this thread. lol
And I think you will be so successful that you will influence others to give it a try too. For some of us, it's that we can eat higher on the carb ladder and still lose weight. For others, it's that they don't have to and can remain very low carb but still do JUDDD truly and tightly.

I'm glad you're here, Speck.
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Thanks again, Pat.

I just feel normal and right on 20-50 carbs a day, which is why I have stuck with it even though I was stalled all year. One thing I've realized the last year especially is that individuals don't respond the same to everything and often how you perceive something on the surface is wrong.
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Thanks again, Pat.

I just feel normal and right on 20-50 carbs a day, which is why I have stuck with it even though I was stalled all year. One thing I've realized the last year especially is that individuals don't respond the same to everything and often how you perceive something on the surface is wrong.
Boy, I totally agree with that! The worst is when everyone else is making it work, and you're absolutely certain that you aren't doing anything different from them, but it isn't working for you.

But then, I don't know why that even seemed unreasonable to me at the time, because I certainly don't question that some people love to eat shrimp and some people die from eating them.

I think one of the greatest points for JUDDD is not just that it's a plan that works, but that everyone gets to make it work using the food choices and nutrient levels that they feel the best on, happiest with, most comfortable using.

JUDDD isn't really the food plan, it's just a plan that has you eat the foods on your plan, the foods of your choosing, in a particular up/down cycling way. But that seems to be the part that helps a lot of people find success with their food plan. LOL
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I was just thinking about that. There's two components to a WOE. What you eat and how/when you eat it. JUDDD is really just the how/when part of the diet.
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I was just thinking about that. There's two components to a WOE. What you eat and how/when you eat it. JUDDD is really just the how/when part of the diet.
Right.

I have the feeling a lot of people think JUDDD is a plan that has you eating a lot of carbs, but that's only because some of us do! JUDDD isn't a plan that mentions food choices at all. That's completely up to the follower.

I think a lot of people would end up being a whole lot more successful in both weight loss and in recovering physical health if they came over here to The Dark Side, but most just get cranky if you suggest it. So mostly, I don't.

And then, there is that thing about the quantity of food you get to eat, because a lot of folks are doing strict low carb, but because it is allowing them to still eat BIG. And to be successful on JUDDD, you have to be willing to have the days where you're going to be eating *small*.

But we all get to direct our lives and make our choices. I just got tired of being fat. I didn't used to be, and then I was, and I was having to live years of my life inside a FAT WOMAN! This is my LIFE we're talking about! It's passing by. Every day, every week, every month, every year... and I'm having to live it being FAT. I just got tired of it, and got to the point where I was willing to do whatever it took to end that. Thank you, JUDDD.
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I know I was hesitating because of that. I rarely (very rarely) eat grains at all now, so my UP days will likely be just more protein, fat, veggies and fruits.
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I know I was hesitating because of that. I rarely (very rarely) eat grains at all now, so my UP days will likely be just more protein, fat, veggies and fruits.
Truthfully, protein, fat, veggies and fruits, are the bulk of most diets, I think. Some add in more carbs. Some not so many.

I do wish more folks understood that their choices in food are completely up to them.
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Okay that does it, Posts #61-65 have convinced me to try JUDD again. The comments about depression, deprivation and low energy having me saying BINGO! Also Stardusts post regarding eating fat. If I have to eat low(er) fat I may as well enjoy more carbs with it right?! Pooticus your comment about dinner with friends reminds me that I can have more choices with less stress while dining out with JUDD.
WOW, yay that is awesome! I hope you have tons of success!!

I had another one of those SUPER high energy days today following my DD...I can't explain this but I'm liking it!
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I recently gave up splenda which has helped me a great deal as far as reducing sugar cravings. I plan to keep the artificial sweeteners out of my diet not snack, eat a large protein breakfast with moderate carbs and not eat after dinner. I also have been keeping meals spaced about 5 hours apart. All this was taken from the Mastering Leptin book. Seems like a lot of silly rules on one hand, but it has helped me to knock off a few pounds and am also happy to say I have not had a binge in 31 days!! Not white knuckling it either, just no desire to binge. I have wanted more food which JUDD should help with on the UD, but have not had any desire to binge on carbs.
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SS - I eat anywhere between 20-60 g of carbs per day. Sometimes netted and other times not! LOL. Today I figured what I would be eating on my UD and it comes out to 53g of carbs with 18g of fiber. That will be split between 2 meals. Not ideal but had a HUGE breakky and am stuffed. Tonight I have a dinner with friends that can't be avoided and know what I'm going to order there...
Thank you for that information. I have been doing about 20 on DDs and MUCH higher on the UDs (around 100-150 depending). I am not sure if this is the RIGHT choice or not (my BGs have been fine so far) but that is why this is an experiment for me. I think the higher carb level is me saying YAY I CAN FINALLY EAT THIS THING AGAIN in moderation. But it is also my choice of, for example, sushi

I still feel VERY unsure about eating this carb level (part of my mind is screaming 'it was those carbs that got you fat! How can you lose weight and eat ANY of them, too!). Anyhow, as unsure as I have felt, I have not had any blood sugar problems (all my 1 and 2 hour readings have been normal) and I have been losing really well. So experiment is still on....though I am thinking I may shoot for a lower carb level next UD.
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Right.

I have the feeling a lot of people think JUDDD is a plan that has you eating a lot of carbs, but that's only because some of us do! JUDDD isn't a plan that mentions food choices at all. That's completely up to the follower.

I think a lot of people would end up being a whole lot more successful in both weight loss and in recovering physical health if they came over here to The Dark Side, but most just get cranky if you suggest it. So mostly, I don't.

And then, there is that thing about the quantity of food you get to eat, because a lot of folks are doing strict low carb, but because it is allowing them to still eat BIG. And to be successful on JUDDD, you have to be willing to have the days where you're going to be eating *small*.

But we all get to direct our lives and make our choices. I just got tired of being fat. I didn't used to be, and then I was, and I was having to live years of my life inside a FAT WOMAN! This is my LIFE we're talking about! It's passing by. Every day, every week, every month, every year... and I'm having to live it being FAT. I just got tired of it, and got to the point where I was willing to do whatever it took to end that. Thank you, JUDDD.
I am willing to do whatever it takes, but let me tell you, those up days do NOT feel like dieting.

It may be true that LOTS of people eat big on LC (In fact I have a couple guy friends doing it right now and MAN the quantity of food they eat...I can't describe it!)..I was never really one of them. I didn't have a big appetite on LC-so after so long doing it, UDs seem incredibly decadent and like eating REALLY BIG to me!

Maybe it is also that the contrast to the DDs is so extreme. I enjoy both in their own way so far...I enjoy the discipline of the DDs, and the knowledge that I am doing something effective. And of course I have loved the decadence of the UDs.
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I was just going to comment about your DH's observation that you are in a better mood and happier these last days. It is interesting that he made this observation.

There was always one thing that I noticed over the years that I've been here, reading almost every single one of those days, and it is that as some people who remain very low carb for really extended periods of time, seem to really get cranky and apparently feel a little irritable most all the time, always seem to have a confrontational edge, sometimes snarky, snotty, *****y, and challanging, combative, defensive, and just plainly in a negative frame of mind most of the time. Angry! Quick to anger. Just always irritable and on edge. Not starting out that way, but becoming that way. Developing symptoms of depression or worsening depression.

Not saying that excluding almost all carbohydrate from their diets for extended periods of time is the absolute cause of this... only that I've noticed it absolutely happening to quite a few people. And it doesn't mean the cause is their diet. Perhaps it is completely from outside pressures in their lives and they are just exhibiting their constant irritability and quick anger in the forums.

But I am able to assess my own frame of mind and responses to everything in my own life, and I have a much sunnier disposition, feel more delight, experience my joy, and live the hours of my days in a much happier frame of mind when carbs are included in my diet at a much higher level than is normal eating the average low carb diet. And I understand that may just be me and not apply to anybody else in the world. (But, as I say from observing these boards for years... I don't think I'm wrong.)
I was trying to figure out why I might be happier, and I have a couple of theories. Firstly, you DO feel deprived on low carb, because it feels like you can *NEVER* have a specific food again. As much as I LOVED losing the weight, I'd feel sorry for myself every once in a while, like on a holiday, when everyone else could eat the food and I had to stick to the meat, no gravy. Family parties were tough, not just because I had to NOT eat something, but because it made me feel like an outsider (an abnormal, sick (diabetic) person who had to be treated differently all of the time). While I dealt with low carb very well most of the time, I still had moments of self pity by feeling that I had to deprive myself of certain things for the rest of my life.

Now, with JUDDD, I don't have to feel that way. If I can't have it today, the beauty is that I CAN HAVE IT TOMORROW!! And that can make all the difference.

Also, having worked SO HARD to lose weight (I dropped the first 50 very fast on Atkins, but the next 25 were SO hard to take off, and it took SO long, and eventually I just stalled for ages) and no matter what I was doing, nothing was working anymore...I think the frustration was probably getting to me. I am a very results oriented person, and when I don't see results, well....I don't give up, but I can get frustrated. I had started to consider if I should try something else (it was the fat fast that originally crossed my mind, although I did not want to). After the frustration of a non-productive re-induction I read SoHappy's post and decided to give it a go. Maybe seeing something do what I tried for so long to accomplish gives me hope...and renewed hope can lighten any mood.
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I am willing to do whatever it takes, but let me tell you, those up days do NOT feel like dieting.

It may be true that LOTS of people eat big on LC (In fact I have a couple guy friends doing it right now and MAN the quantity of food they eat...I can't describe it!)..I was never really one of them. I didn't have a big appetite on LC-so after so long doing it, UDs seem incredibly decadent and like eating REALLY BIG to me!

Maybe it is also that the contrast to the DDs is so extreme. I enjoy both in their own way so far...I enjoy the discipline of the DDs, and the knowledge that I am doing something effective. And of course I have loved the decadence of the UDs.
All this - same for me!

Oh, and though I'm not measuring my blood glucose, I can tell how I feel after meals that there's been no energy drop or sleepiness like i used to get

EXCEPT after b'fast yesterday when I totally overdid the carbs in one sitting! I was hungry and went hog-wild with McDonalds food. Get this - I had a bacon, egg & cheese biscuit (33.1 carb), a hashbrown (7.1 carb) AND a cinnamon melt (66 carbs) so a total of 106.2 in one sitting!!! While I have pretty much stopped watching carbs, I KNEW of course that the cinnamon melt was a whollop of a sugarbomb without even looking up the carb count, and combined with the other two items, had to be a big hit to my system.

Amazingly, I've been eating almost 200 carbs daily now on UD, no problems except that one meal with the cinnamon melt. Don't plan to make a repeat of that anytime soon.
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Okay that does it, Posts #61-65 have convinced me to try JUDD again. The comments about depression, deprivation and low energy having me saying BINGO! Also Stardusts post regarding eating fat. If I have to eat low(er) fat I may as well enjoy more carbs with it right?! Pooticus your comment about dinner with friends reminds me that I can have more choices with less stress while dining out with JUDD.
Oh I am SO pleased you are trying juddd! I made my goal today, after 7 weeks on juddd...it did what 6 months of plain l/c didn't!

I am still doing moderate carbs...under 80 so far, as I have binging/bulimic issues.

No binging/bulimia in 6 months....I think it is large amounts of sugary carbs, esp biscuits and such that sets me off....on moderate carb I have enough "treats" not to binge....and not enough sugary carbs so I want to purge.

Binging is a tough problem to have, and if you ever need a listening ear..just PM me any time!

I have lived with it 23 years now...so I know how it makes you feel

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Old 10-22-2011, 12:41 PM   #84
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All this - same for me!

Oh, and though I'm not measuring my blood glucose, I can tell how I feel after meals that there's been no energy drop or sleepiness like i used to get

EXCEPT after b'fast yesterday when I totally overdid the carbs in one sitting! I was hungry and went hog-wild with McDonalds food. Get this - I had a bacon, egg & cheese biscuit (33.1 carb), a hashbrown (7.1 carb) AND a cinnamon melt (66 carbs) so a total of 106.2 in one sitting!!! While I have pretty much stopped watching carbs, I KNEW of course that the cinnamon melt was a whollop of a sugarbomb without even looking up the carb count, and combined with the other two items, had to be a big hit to my system.

Amazingly, I've been eating almost 200 carbs daily now on UD, no problems except that one meal with the cinnamon melt. Don't plan to make a repeat of that anytime soon.
OMG that McDonald's meal sounds awesome! I am *SO* relieved to hear that someone else has eaten a significant amount of carbs on an UD. I really panicked when I got a look at my total carb count (had dinner at a friends place, and she served homemade tomato soup made with chicken stock, and wheat garlic bread. Then I had 2 dried figs. VERY carby for me. Add that to the 2 slices of toasted rye I had with breakfast and small carbs throughout the day and I ended up with a (for me) scary amount!).

I guess that I am still so new at this that eating a lot of carbs freaks me out. I have felt FINE after them (not sleepy, as you say...quite the opposite-I have been bursting with energy all day, probably because of the DD) and not 'low' blood sugar wise, either (which would be a good sign that I overate carbs due to major insulin release). Anyway, the BGs have been good....but I am carbophobic, so I am going to continue watching my blood glucose levels like a hawk until I feel more comfortable.

One thing I may be 'forgetting'....when I was diagnosed with diabetes, I was 75 pounds heavier than I am today. I am sure that my insulin resistance has been extremely decreased since that time!
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One thing I may be 'forgetting'....when I was diagnosed with diabetes, I was 75 pounds heavier than I am today. I am sure that my insulin resistance has been extremely decreased since that time!
Keep an eye on your blood glucose and keep letting us know how it goes. This is very interesting for all of us with any BS issues.

And yes, I bet losing weight has helped soooo much with the insulin resistance! Sounds like you're doing great!
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Oh I am SO pleased you are trying juddd! I made my goal today, after 7 weeks on juddd...it did what 6 months of plain l/c didn't!

I am still doing moderate carbs...under 80 so far, as I have binging/bulimic issues.

No binging/bulimia in 6 months....I think it is large amounts of sugary carbs, esp biscuits and such that sets me off....on moderate carb I have enough "treats" not to binge....and not enough sugary carbs so I want to purge.

Binging is a tough problem to have, and if you ever need a listening ear..just PM me any time!

I have lived with it 23 years now...so I know how it makes you feel

Happy judding hun...post often!

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Wow that was fast results! Congrats on surpassing your goal and the even better news~no binging! 135 is too high for me as I am only a tick over 5'1, but I want to take things slowly and see where I land without too much obsessing. What numbers did you use for your UD/DD? I exercise almost everyday and am not sure what % I want to use. I am not in a big hurry to lose so I may go as high as 35%??

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Okay that does it, Posts #61-65 have convinced me to try JUDD again. The comments about depression, deprivation and low energy having me saying BINGO! Also Stardusts post regarding eating fat. If I have to eat low(er) fat I may as well enjoy more carbs with it right?! Pooticus your comment about dinner with friends reminds me that I can have more choices with less stress while dining out with JUDD.
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SS - You might want to get an AIC as a baseline, then do another one next month. Just a suggestion?!
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I just got one last week, so that would work fairly well
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