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Old 10-25-2012, 11:11 AM   #2011
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Thanks for the advise on weight loss frustrations...I am definitely too focused on the scale and despite what I think is a slow loss my clothes are mysteriously getting looser so I'm very jazzed about that.
After many , many years of "dieting" I do feel very determined and committed to this and that is something very new for me. Plus..I have hipbones now, so cool!!!
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:12 AM   #2012
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Hello all! I'm Megan - I've been lurking around here for the past couple weeks and I just couldn't resist anymore! I am completely new to the JUDDD diet, but definitely not new to dieting. In the past 2 years, my weight has been between 125 and 155. To get to the lower end of that range, I have had to severely restrict calories, which always ends up triggering major cravings which leads to days on end of overeating. Then I have to start all over with the calorie restricting, and it is a vicious cycle! To that end, I feel like JUDDD is the perfect diet/lifestyle for me. As others have said, if you know that every other day you can eat whatever food you want (amount within reason), I will not feel the need to go crazy, and I know I can handle the restricted calorie levels on DD.

To start out, the only thing I'm worried about is that I have been on a severely restricted calorie diet currently (current weight of 128 pounds), so I figure I will of course gain some weight as I add the DD/UD rotations. The average weekly calorie intake (even factoring 4 DD & 3 UD) is higher than what I am currently eating, though I know this level is not sustainable - and why I'm here! Can anyone estimate how much I might gain back? I'm just trying to prepare myself for scale shock :/ Also, I'm not looking for a quick fix, as I think the JUDDD diet is truly sustainable long-term, but I did just want to confirm that you can lose weight even when close to goal weight? (I saw Kissa, you've had much success, which is wonderful! I'm still just a tad bit nervous ) Per the calculator, my calories are suggested as follows:

DD: 333 / UD: 1663

So I will be sticking to those as closely as possible, and today is my first DD!

Thanks everyone, and I'm so excited to be here & meet you all & join you on this diet!
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Old 10-25-2012, 04:17 PM   #2013
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Hello all! I'm Megan - I've been lurking around here for the past couple weeks and I just couldn't resist anymore! I am completely new to the JUDDD diet, but definitely not new to dieting. In the past 2 years, my weight has been between 125 and 155. To get to the lower end of that range, I have had to severely restrict calories, which always ends up triggering major cravings which leads to days on end of overeating. Then I have to start all over with the calorie restricting, and it is a vicious cycle! To that end, I feel like JUDDD is the perfect diet/lifestyle for me. As others have said, if you know that every other day you can eat whatever food you want (amount within reason), I will not feel the need to go crazy, and I know I can handle the restricted calorie levels on DD.

To start out, the only thing I'm worried about is that I have been on a severely restricted calorie diet currently (current weight of 128 pounds), so I figure I will of course gain some weight as I add the DD/UD rotations. The average weekly calorie intake (even factoring 4 DD & 3 UD) is higher than what I am currently eating, though I know this level is not sustainable - and why I'm here! Can anyone estimate how much I might gain back? I'm just trying to prepare myself for scale shock :/ Also, I'm not looking for a quick fix, as I think the JUDDD diet is truly sustainable long-term, but I did just want to confirm that you can lose weight even when close to goal weight? (I saw Kissa, you've had much success, which is wonderful! I'm still just a tad bit nervous ) Per the calculator, my calories are suggested as follows:

DD: 333 / UD: 1663

So I will be sticking to those as closely as possible, and today is my first DD!

Thanks everyone, and I'm so excited to be here & meet you all & join you on this diet!
Pure pink, how many calories had you been eating per day?
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Old 10-26-2012, 06:25 AM   #2015
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Thanks for the welcome, Cici! Sweetlady, unfortunately probably less than 500 per day.. I knew it was unhealthy and unsustainable, but sometimes the quick weight loss is the only way I get motivated (but I know it comes back as soon as you start eating regularly) and that's why I'm trying to turn things around with a healthy WOL
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Hi Megan! !

I'm sure you'll find JUDDD to be immensely more livable than what you've been doing. 500 calories a day, every day - that's basically starving your body. I can't speak to what you could expect to gain starting this (your JUDDD calories sound right, and very doable). There is some talk about "healing your metabolism" by following this WOE. Hopefully, given some time to adjust to this new plan, your body will understand that it isn't going to starve, and that it either won't gain back a whole lot, or will temporarily gain a bit and then release it again once it has adjusted. What a blessing that would be for you to get your metabolism humming along again.

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Hi Megan
What if you put the scales away and just concentrated on getting your rotations right for a few weeks?
It's easy to be so focused on your weight that you miss all the other good things this WOE will bring you.
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Old 10-26-2012, 10:43 AM   #2018
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Nandugben and Megan.

Wow Nan, hipbones, now that is nice. Lovely to have you on board.

You too Megan. I am glad you realise that 500 cal days are not sustainable or sensible in the long term.

I feel sure that JUDDD will suit you if you stick to Weight Loss Levels, even if you see a brief jump in your weight.
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Old 10-26-2012, 01:02 PM   #2019
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What if you put the scales away and just concentrated on getting your rotations right for a few weeks?
It's easy to be so focused on your weight that you miss all the other good things this WOE will bring you.

Megan I think this would help you immensely! Put it up for 2 weeks and at the 2 week mark make that your starting point. I think you'll be surprised. I was never that low but before I talked to Dawn and became more strict about my numbers I had slipped on both upday and downday to about 900 cal a day and was gaining slowly but surely. On 900 a day that seems impossible but im sure I was in starvation mode. After I tightened up my numbers it took 2 down days to suddenly drop alot of weight I just had to reassure my body it was ok and it let go. So if you do weigh don't worry it will go back down .
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Old 10-26-2012, 01:27 PM   #2020
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Old 10-26-2012, 04:21 PM   #2022
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Hi, all. I've been posting on the main board for a while, and have been doing low carb since January 15, 2012, trying to eat super clean since this summer, and doing nutritional ketosis (low carb/moderate protein/high fat) since August. While I lost initially with each of these added refinements to lowcarb, I find that my weightloss stalls or goes to a glacial rate of 1 pound/month fairly quickly. Thus, I'm adding JUDDD to my arsenal, starting today.

This was my first down day, and I've had just a cup of homemade beef broth (fat skimmed off) and a tablespoon of coconut oil so far today. I'm planning on trying for 500 calories on down days and around 1500 calories on up days; I was doing around 1200 calories a day on LCHF before this.

Fortunately, having adjusted to low carb/moderate protein/high fat has dampened my hunger in general, and I'm planning to stick to that on JUDDD. My down days will just consist of my protein allotment (around 45 grams) plus a little fat.

I hear over and over on the main board how supportive this group is, and I look forward to getting to know you and learning from you.
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Svenskamae. Did you get your calorie numbers from Dr. Johnson's website? I only ask because they look low to me, but not knowing your stats, they could be accurate. I'd love for you to have the best start at this WOE, and the calories do make a difference. If they're too low OR too high, it can affect whether or not you lose.
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Old 10-26-2012, 04:32 PM   #2024
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Thanks for any advice you have on this, KeirasMom. I read Dr. Johnson's book and remember him saying to start with down days at 500 calories or less. I've been eating 1200 calories/day on LCHF/plainlowcarb without losing very fast, so I'm nervous about doing any more than 1500 on my up days.

I'm 57 years old, female, 5'3", 194 pounds, and have lost about 40 pounds in the past 9 months; I walk about 5 miles a day and have a sedentary (computer-oriented) job. When I enter my stats into the calculator on Dr. Johnson's website, picking "little or no exercise" to be on the safe side, I get down day calories of 367 (seems lower than I can tolerate at first) and up day calories of 1834 (which is more than I ever eat).
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"Most" of us have to eat up to or at least within 100 calories or so of our UD limits. It's not required, and some do fine eating less, but several of us, myself included, have stalled from going too low on UDs. I know it's scary, and sounds counterintuitive, but you have to counteract the very low DDs with full, nourishing UDs so your body doesn't rebel and want to hold onto everything. As with all plans, there are exceptions, and you may do fine with 1500 calorie UDs, but if you choose to go that low to start, know that it could backfire. If you don't have good losses, that may be the culprit.

I actually weigh close to what you weigh, and I eat 1915 calories on UDs, though I'm a little bit younger and taller, and that does play into it, but I'm losing pretty well.

ETA: I wouldn't worry about going down to the 367 calorie DDs to start. Many of us started higher, some even higher than the recommended 500, and lost just fine, gradually lowering them as we were able.
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Thanks for your help, Dawn. I'll see how I do at 1500 calories and up that for a while if I'm not getting good results. Because I lose at such a slow rate, losing 1 pound a week would be great results for me.

Do I have to be careful about going too low on my down days? I think I may be able to make it through today with just the broth and the tablespoon of coconut butter, which would probably be around 300 calories. Or is "the lower, the better" the way to go on down days, so long as one isn't too miserable or faint? I have insulin resistence, but I'm not diabetic and I don't have any serious health problems (beyond finding it horribly difficult to lose weight).
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Dr. Johnson stated that a total fast would be best, but that most of us wouldn't be able to do that, so many of the benefits of a full fast are achieved with the very low DD calories. Most of us do fine with any and all calorie ranges up to our 20-25%. Many here completely fast, or only have bullet-proof coffee or tea and broth on DDs and do very well. I think the common feeling here is that it's more about the spread between the two days. The greater the spread within your calorie limits, the greater the results. Though that may just be a generalization I've formed in my own head.
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svenskamae! So glad to have you here with us. I think Dawn has given you some very good advice, and she is one our pros.

I would be concerned that you keep your calories too low right in the beginning. You may not be able to train your metabolism back up to higher levels. The UD calories may seem too high, and uncomfortable at first, especially since you've been restricting pretty seriously. But think of the 2 day average: 500 + 1500 = 2000/2 = 1000 calories per day. That's seriously low.

I agree with Dawn, that the magic seems to happen because of the wide spread in calories day to day. Only you can decide what's best for you, and you know your metabolism better than anyone. But this WOE, and its effects on our bodies, is so much different than anything any of us has tried before, you may just be surprised how your body reacts.

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I do agree with Dawn on this. Certainly start out with the 500 cal DDs as Dr J suggests you do. But most of us a amazed at how quickly our bodies adjust to the lower calories. As for the 1834 number, it may sound too much for you, but by including more good fats you may not find it too onerous.

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Down four!!! Patience works...and hiding the scale for awhile
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Old 10-28-2012, 09:47 AM   #2031
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Thanks for all the kind words, everyone!

I've been hiding out (away from the boards) and just trying to follow the JUDDD WOE for a couple days, taking your advice about hiding my scales (super hard!). It's much harder to stay away from the scales when I'm reading about poundage, weight lost, etc. so I had to stay away for a bit.

But just wanted to say you all are so right after it being a much easier, and much more fulfilling WOE! I still get cravings, but it's so nice to tell myself to just hold on until tomorrow.. knowing myself (and the methods of my eating madness) are what made me so excited about finding JUDDD in the first place, because it does seem like something I can stick with! And that's the best kind of "diet", right?

Shanan, so you're saying you were eating roughly 900 cals all the time (each day)? Or your DD/UD average was around 900? Because my calculated UD/DD calorie numbers (per the site calculator) do come out to an average of ~900 cals in a week with 4 DDs and 3 UDs. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something wrong.

With that, I'm on to my third DD. Have a great one, everyone!

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How to cook an egg?

I'm on day one - down day, doing great so far! 1 cup of broth and some sauteed (in broth) summer squash, plus lots of water.

However, I wanted to make an egg for lunch and I have absolutely no idea how to cook an egg without butter! I just burned one, even on a non-stick pan at medium temperature. Any suggestions?

After being on and off of low carb for 8 years, it will take some adjustment to now pay attention to calories!
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good to 'meet' you.

I put a little water in the bottom of the pan so it almost 'poaches'. I make scrambled egg in my non stick pan with a little milk. Sometimes I even add butter, but I count the calories, lol.
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Thanks Kissa, I'll try it!
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I'm on day one - down day, doing great so far! 1 cup of broth and some sauteed (in broth) summer squash, plus lots of water.

However, I wanted to make an egg for lunch and I have absolutely no idea how to cook an egg without butter! I just burned one, even on a non-stick pan at medium temperature. Any suggestions?

After being on and off of low carb for 8 years, it will take some adjustment to now pay attention to calories!
Soft boiled, hard boiled, or poached. Darn, I'm at work, and now I want an egg! May have eggs for dinner.
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I'm on day one - down day, doing great so far! 1 cup of broth and some sauteed (in broth) summer squash, plus lots of water.

However, I wanted to make an egg for lunch and I have absolutely no idea how to cook an egg without butter! I just burned one, even on a non-stick pan at medium temperature. Any suggestions?

After being on and off of low carb for 8 years, it will take some adjustment to now pay attention to calories!
Another newbie here, good to meet you! Yeah it has taken me some time to wrap my head around the concept of calories again after low carb for so long. We can do it!!
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Hello Im Angie from Australia and im going to give JUDDD a try ive been LC for 10yrs or so
I went to the calculator and my DD is 371 and UD IS 1853 hope to be able to join you all on this thread
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